Loading level on buses

• array88

  2 Aug 14, 18:58

  Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:

  I didn't understand your comment. How does this affect loading on Sv 120? And if loading will increase only after 2030, what's the purpose 16 years in advance? Rather use the resources in other areas. 

  When CCL6 is ready, Telok Blangah Stn will have convenient access to CBD, Marina Bay, Marina Centre etc via CCL. Hence passengers who are now taking other bus services from Telok Blangah Heights may choose 120 to Telok Blangah Stn and transfer to CCL as it becomes more useful.

• SBS3004X

  2 Aug 14, 21:12

  Service 20 (11 buses) 

  Depot:

  • Changi Bus Park (CGBP)

  Buses:
  SBS3354K SBS3355H SBS3401H SBS3402E
  4 Volvo B9TL (4 WEG2 BSEP Batch 2)

  SBS6314G SBS6315D SBS6316B SBS6346P SBS6373K SBS6375E SBS6385B
  7 Mercedes-Benz O530 Citaro (3 BSEP Batch 1 / 4 BSEP Batch 2)

  Notes:

  • This bus service is under Land Transport Authority (LTA)'s Bus Service Enhancement Programme (BSEP).
  • Weekdays: 8AM-8PM / 3S (11 buses)
  • Weekends: 8AM-8PM / 1S / 1T (10 buses)
• carbikebus

  3 Aug 14, 01:11

  20 doesnt need too many buses with 4 DDs..probably 6 A/P 3 S is good enough
• BusAnalayzer

  3 Aug 14, 03:14

  Originally posted by carbikebus:

  20 doesnt need too many buses with 4 DDs..probably 6 A/P 3 S is good enough

  Yes def dont need 12 buses.. but 4 DDs/6 SDs is needed.. as frequency is bet 12-14 mins.. so no point reducing a bus.

• carbikebus

  3 Aug 14, 12:51

  Can make 7 A/P 2 S and a crossover DD from other svc?
• SBS3004X

  3 Aug 14, 22:31

  Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:

  Yes def dont need 12 buses.. but 4 DDs/6 SDs is needed.. as frequency is bet 12-14 mins.. so no point reducing a bus.

  1 upgrade, 1 fleet add.

• BusAnalayzer

  4 Aug 14, 21:43

  Loading on sv 156 from Clementi Interchange @ 17.35

  Clement Interchange -- 35

  Clementi Ave 3 -- 43 (0/8)

  Clementi Ave 2 -- 42 (-7/6)

  Ullu Pandan Rd -- 43 (-2/3), 42 (-3/2), 39 (-5/2), 40 (-1/2), 39 (-3/2)

  Sixth Avenue -- 40 (-2/3), 39 (-3/2), 39 (-2/2),. 39 (-2/2), 38 (-3/2)

   Dunearn Rd -- 37 (-4/3), 35 (-5/3), 32 (-5/2), 30 (-5/3), 30 (-4/4) Botanic Gardens MRT, 29 (-3/2), 36 (-3/10)

  Whitley Rd -- 39 (-4/7)

  PIE -- 37 (-2/0), 37 (0/0)

  Thomson Rd -- 36 (-3/2), 42 (0/6), 48 (0/6), 56 (-2/10) *loading started picking up only along Thomson road. Below 40 pax until then. This explains why AM there used to be 156A terminating at Thomson rd.

  Macritchie -- 55 (-10/9)

  Bradell Road -- 58 (-1/4) peak loading, 56 (-6/4)

  Bishan Road -- 57 (-2/3), 54 (-12/9) Bishan MRT, 53 (-4/3), 49 (-6/2), 47 (-2/0)

  AMK Ave 1 -- 51 (-1/5), 49 (-4/2)

  Boundary Rd -- 47 (-5/3), 45 (-8/6), 46 (-3/4)

  YCK Link -- 43 (-9/6)

  YCK Road -- 44 (-1/2), 44 (-2/2), 40 (-8/4), 45 (-3/8), 47 (-5/7), 47 (-9/9)

  Buangkok Green -- 42 (-9/4), 39 (-6/3), 37 (-7/5), 35 (-5/3)

  Sengkang East Rd -- 34 (-1/0), 34 (-2/2), 33 (-8/7), 31 (-9/7) 

  Sengkang East Way -- 14 (-17/0) i alighted here at Compass Point

  * Loading never reached 60 pax

  * Loading on sv 156 has dropped as most people have moved to sv 43. I think this could also be the reason why 156A was axed.

  * As per iris, when checked at PIE, bus ahead at 14 mins and bus behind at 10 mins. 

  * No recommendation - guess current fleet size is good enough.

• SBS5010P

  4 Aug 14, 23:26

  taking 156 is a pain all citaros

• BusAnalayzer

  5 Aug 14, 00:00

  Originally posted by SBS5010P:

  taking 156 is a pain all citaros

  Yes but loading is not too high... Hence Citaros doing okay... Citaros best for services with peak loading of 60 pax. Disaster to have citaros on services like 27, 28.

• SBS5010P

  5 Aug 14, 00:13

  Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:

  Yes but loading is not too high... Hence Citaros doing okay... Citaros best for services with peak loading of 60 pax. Disaster to have citaros on services like 27, 28.

  Would prefer citaros to do those svcs below 55pax like Svcs 115, 40, 262, 317, Parks Services, 116, 119 and 26 etc

• carbikebus

  5 Aug 14, 01:58

  no choice ah bro,as long they follow schedule its should be ok..wont get penalised by LTA
• BusAnalayzer

  5 Aug 14, 03:14

  Originally posted by SBS5010P:

  Would prefer citaros to do those svcs below 55pax like Svcs 115, 40, 262, 317, Parks Services, 116, 119 and 26 etc

  26 can have 60+ pax loading at times, though will seldom cross 70pax. Same for 156 - hence Citaro ok on 156. 

• BusAnalayzer

  5 Aug 14, 16:06

  Loading Report - BA

  Survey period: Feb 14 to May 13 (3 months)

  # services surveyed: 33

  # of SBST services: 30

  # of SMRT services: 03

  # of services w/ SD: 18

  # of services w/ DD: 15

  Buses taken: 

  13, 18, 27, 38, 49, 50, 56, 61, 63, 65, 73, 82, 83, 86, 97, 99, 107, 112, 113, 116, 119, 125, 132, 141, 153, 161, 165, 195, 275, 325, 334, 855, 963

• SBS3004X

  5 Aug 14, 18:08

  Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:

  Yes but loading is not too high... Hence Citaros doing okay... Citaros best for services with peak loading of 60 pax. Disaster to have citaros on services like 27, 28.

  SBST shouldn't have taken KUBs from 27, they should have taken from other services.

• SBS5010P

  5 Aug 14, 20:24

  After the fleet add on 113, I checked out the loading of one of the buses at 8:05pm at Bet kovan bus stop

  SBS892T 113 @ 8:02pm arrived, with 57-60 pax in the bus, fully seated with few standees. The bus ahead was 5-8 mins away [5 bus stops away] , which was arriving blk 105 mkt/fc ( i checked iris app). It seems that 113 could be getting another fleet add soon? The DDU on 892T was red, which means that it was early and it was getting 57-60 pax despite being early. If it was on time wouldnt the bus be full? The BC was flooring the bus at 55 - 60 km/h throughout even though she was early. Perhaps she wanted more rest time at HCI?

   

• dupdup77

  5 Aug 14, 20:48

  Originally posted by SBS5010P:

  After the fleet add on 113, I checked out the loading of one of the buses at 8:05pm at Bet kovan bus stop

  SBS892T 113 @ 8:02pm arrived, with 57-60 pax in the bus, fully seated with few standees. The bus ahead was 5-8 mins away [5 bus stops away] , which was arriving blk 105 mkt/fc ( i checked iris app). It seems that 113 could be getting another fleet add soon? The DDU on 892T was red, which means that it was early and it was getting 57-60 pax despite being early. If it was on time wouldnt the bus be full? The BC was flooring the bus at 55 - 60 km/h throughout even though she was early. Perhaps she wanted more rest time at HCI?

   

  Hi mr SBS5010P, based on one observation of bus loading as described above, you come to the conclusion that it seems 113 will get another fleet add soon? Please be realistic la. Go and make 10 observations at different times of the day for every single day for 1 month first before coming to any suggestions or conclusions. If everybody makes this sort of conclusion just by this, I think 70% of the bus services will have add fleet soon. Cheers.  

• SBS5010P

  5 Aug 14, 20:55

  Originally posted by dupdup77:

  Hi mr SBS5010P, based on one observation of bus loading as described above, you come to the conclusion that it seems 113 will get another fleet add soon? Please be realistic la. Go and make 10 observations at different times of the day for every single day for 1 month first before coming to any suggestions or conclusions. If everybody makes this sort of conclusion just by this, I think 70% of the bus services will have add fleet soon. Cheers.  

  Hi mr dupdup77, i said could not would. Based on those svcs that got fleet add/ capacity upgrade if loading still dosent drop sbst will add on buses in a short period of time. It's just my 2 cents.  Im just saying. Cheers.

• SBS3004X

  6 Aug 14, 17:27

  Originally posted by dupdup77:

  Hi mr SBS5010P, based on one observation of bus loading as described above, you come to the conclusion that it seems 113 will get another fleet add soon? 

  SBS5232R could be a fleet add.

• SBS3004X

  6 Aug 14, 17:33

  Service 119 (10 buses) 

  Depot:

  • Hougang Depot (HGDEP)

  Buses:
  SBS962A SBS2644E
  2 Volvo B10M Mark IV (1 DM / 1 Strider)

  SBS6237X SBS6302R SBS6306E SBS6427P SBS6428L SBS6607L SBS6710X SBS6718A
  8 Mercedes-Benz O530 Citaro (1 Batch 1 / 2 BSEP Batch 1 / 3 Batch 2 / 2 BSEP Batch 2)

  Notes:

  • This bus service is extended under Land Transport Authority (LTA)'s Bus Service Enhancement Programme (BSEP).
  • Weekdays: 7AM-7PM / 3S (10 buses)
  • Weekends: 6AM-7PM / 1T (8 buses)
• SBS3004X

  6 Aug 14, 17:35

  Service 115 (2 buses) 

  Depot:

  • Hougang Depot (HGDEP)

  Buses:

  SBS6460S SBS6727Z
  2 Mercedes-Benz O530 Citaro (1 Batch 2 / 1 BSEP Batch 2)

  Notes:

  • Daily: 2T (2 buses)
• SBS5010P

  6 Aug 14, 17:36

  3004X, i believe u have posted in the wrong thread O.O

• SBS3004X

  6 Aug 14, 17:40

  Feeder 262 (5 buses)

  Buses:
  SBS5103E SBS8820Z
  2 Scania K230UB (3 Batch 2 Euro V / 2 Batch 1 Euro V)

  SBS6329P SBS6764R SBS6765M
  3 Mercedes-Benz O530 Citaro (1 BSEP Batch 1 / 2 Batch 3)

  BRBP buses have been taken as AMDEP does not have any more spare buses.

• SBS3004X

  6 Aug 14, 17:46

  Service 27 (32 buses) 

  Depot:

  • Hougang Depot (HGDEP)

  Buses:
  SBS6068S SBS6135G SBS6137B SBS6138Z SBS6140R SBS6215J SBS6225E SBS6713M SBS6716E SBS6728X SBS6731K
  11 Mercedes-Benz O530 Citaro (7 Batch 1 / 4 Batch 2)

  SBS5232R SBS5233M SBS8133Z SBS8134X SBS8135T SBS8143U SBS8148G SBS8194Y SBS8249Z SBS8561X SBS8620J SBS8672J SBS8718L SBS8719J SBS8720D SBS8721B SBS8740X SBS8741T SBS8742R SBS8743M SBS8745H
  21 Scania K230UB (8 Batch 2 Euro IV / 13 Batch 1 Euro V / 2 Batch 2 Euro V)

  Notes:

  • Weekdays: 15AM-15PM / 2E / 14S / 1T (32 buses)
  • Saturdays: 14AM-16PM / 6T (22 buses)
  • Sundays: 13AM-16PM / 4T (20 buses)
  • Weekdays Sch Hols: 15AM-15PM / 1E / 14S / 1T (31 buses)
• SBS3004X

  7 Aug 14, 18:08

  Service 43 (21 buses) 

  Depot:

  • Hougang Depot (HGDEP)

  Buses:
  SBS2630U
  1 Volvo B10M Mark IV (1 Strider)

  SBS3003Z SBS3004X SBS3050L SBS3105M SBS3141H SBS3305C SBS3329J SBS3376Y SBS3393Y
  9 Volvo B9TL (5 WEG2 Batch 2B / 2 WEG2 BSEP Batch 1 / 2 WEG2 BSEP Batch 2)

  SBS5156C SBS5157A SBS5159U SBS5193U SBS5195P SBS5196L SBS8193A SBS8236K
  8 Scania K230UB (6 Batch 2 Euro V / 2 Batch 2 Euro IV)

  SBS6234D
  1 Mercedes-Benz O530 Citaro (1 Batch 1 )

  SBS9419T SBS9532Z
  2 Volvo Olympian 3-Axle (2 Batch 2)

  Notes:

  • SBS3305C and SBS3329J will perform supplementary trips on SWT 43A during Weekdays AM Peak.
  • SBS3329J only perform on SWT 43A and downroutes from Serangoon MRT Station during Weekdays PM Peak.
  • Weekdays: 12AM-12PM / 5S / 4E (21 buses)
  • Saturdays: 12AM-14PM / 2T (16 buses)
  • Sundays: 12AM-13PM (13 buses)
• SBS3004X

  7 Aug 14, 18:12

  Service 80 (25 - 27 buses) 

  Depot:

  • Hougang Depot (HGDEP)

  Buses:
  SBS945A
  1 Volvo B10M Mark IV (1 DM)

  SBS3106K SBS3108E SBS3110Y SBS3820G SBS3821D SBS3822B SBS7380H SBS7381E SBS7386S SBS7411C SBS7426K SBS7448Y SBS7452J SBS7453G SBS7454D SBS7455B SBS7459R SBS7461H SBS7463C SBS7464A SBS7467S
  21 Volvo B9TL (3 WEG2 Batch 2B /  3 WEG2 Batch 3 / 15 CDGE)

  SBS5158Y SBS8700L SBS8989X
  3 Scania K230UB (1 Batch 1 Euro V / 2 Batch 2 Euro V)

  SBS9682Z SBS9685R
  2 Dennis Trident

  Notes:

  • SBS9682Z and SBS9685R crossover to Premium 550 during Weekdays AM Peak.
  • Weekdays: 15AM-15PM / 12S (27 buses)
  • Saturdays: 17AM-22PM / 3T (25 buses)
  • Sundays: 15AM-17PM (17 buses)