Originally posted by Sbs6750E:Maybe 163M came before 163. Hmmm.
I checked on iris.. there was 08 min difference between bus in front.. and bus at back was 06 min away. So basically there was 14 min interval between two 163 buses.. but ofcourse there will be times when 163M will bunch with 163 and then will go empty all the way back to MRT...
On another note, both sv 50/163 buses in opposite direction were packed.
Loading on sv 201 3429 from Kent Ridge @ 18.22 hours
Kent Ridge Terminal -- 23
West Coast Rd -- 26 (0/3), 28 (0/2), 31 (0/3), 52 (0/19) many school students boarded here, 65 (-11/24) WC market
Clementi Ave 2 -- 60 (-7/2)
Commonwealth Ave West -- 56 (-6/2), 36 (-42/22) Clementi MRT, 34 (-2/0)
Clementi Ave 6 -- 30 (-7/3)
AYE -- 27 (-6/3), 23 (-7/3) I alighted here...
** I didn't do the full route, but the part of route I observed this was the route:
DD (where I was) --> SD (in terminal) --> SD (crossed at WC road) --> DD (crossed WC market) --> DD (crossed at signal of Clementi Ave 2) --> DD (crossed at Clementi Ave 6) --> SD (crossed at first stop of AYE)... I suspect there will be 1 more SD enroute.
Yesterday, I was at the bus stop o/s Northpoint Shopping Centre, Svc 85 (SBS 3923 T) drove pass and I see a good load of both upper and lower deck of buses. I think it is good and beneficial for Svc 85 to have DDs...
I didn't manage to see any DDs on 39 yesterday.. Are they only being deployed during the morning and evening peaks?
Originally posted by SBS 9256 X:Yesterday, I was at the bus stop o/s Northpoint Shopping Centre, Svc 85 (SBS 3923 T) drove pass and I see a good load of both upper and lower deck of buses. I think it is good and beneficial for Svc 85 to have DDs...
I didn't manage to see any DDs on 39 yesterday.. Are they only being deployed during the morning and evening peaks?
Its because they cut 2 SDs in exchange for a DD thats why the loading is good.
Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:Loading on sv 201 3429 from Kent Ridge @ 18.22 hours
Kent Ridge Terminal -- 23
West Coast Rd -- 26 (0/3), 28 (0/2), 31 (0/3), 52 (0/19) many school students boarded here, 65 (-11/24) WC market
Clementi Ave 2 -- 60 (-7/2)
Commonwealth Ave West -- 56 (-6/2), 36 (-42/22) Clementi MRT, 34 (-2/0)
Clementi Ave 6 -- 30 (-7/3)
AYE -- 27 (-6/3), 23 (-7/3) I alighted here...
** I didn't do the full route, but the part of route I observed this was the route:
DD (where I was) --> SD (in terminal) --> SD (crossed at WC road) --> DD (crossed WC market) --> DD (crossed at signal of Clementi Ave 2) --> DD (crossed at Clementi Ave 6) --> SD (crossed at first stop of AYE)... I suspect there will be 1 more SD enroute.
201 current fleets is good enough..Most of the time its single decker loadings only..Only on certain timings DDs can be full too...But the ratio of 4:4 is good enough
Originally posted by SBS 9256 X:I didn't manage to see any DDs on 39 yesterday.. Are they only being deployed during the morning and evening peaks?
I did manage to see DD on Svc39, yesterday I was at Tampines Bus Interchange, while waiting and boarding for Svc969's DD, I saw Svc39's DD arrive and departing same time as Svc969's DD at 1:15PM.
Dont punch me... but I got a feeling sv 39 loading has somewhat tanked in PM peak... AM still quite high... but PM noticed many times when I am driving on TPE... that even SDs are not absolutely packed.
1.5 hour journey this morning on sv 70 to Shenton Way from YCK Terminal on 7719R @ 07.30am
YCK Terminal -- 25 sv 72B already had long queue
AMK Ave 9 -- 27 (0/2), 27 (0/0)
AMK st 63 -- 21 (-6/0), 18 (-3/0)
YCK Road -- 13 (-5/0), 4 (-9/0), 7 (0/3), 14 (0/7) bef CTE, 18 (0/4), 24 (0/6), 29 (0/5)bef Sengkang West Rd, 39 (-2/11), 54 (-2/17), 57 (0/3), 57 (-4/4), 69 (-1/13) bef AMKAve 5, 74 (-7/12), 78 (-7/11) bef AMK Ave 3, 80 (-4/6), 81 (-2/3), 79 (-3/1), 79 (0/0),79 (0/0), 78 (-3/2)
Serangoon Central -- 86 (-1/9), 59 (-39/12) NEX
Upper Serangoon Rd -- 60 (0/1)
Upper Paya Lebar Rd -- 57 (-6/3), 58 (-1/2), 58 (-2/2), 60 (0/2), 56 (-6/2), 56 (-2/2), 44 (-12/0), 40 (-6/2)
Paya Lebar Rd -- 34 (-7/1), 27 (-9/2), 20 (-9/2), 15 (-5/0), 24 (-8/17) Paya Lebar MRT... please note that only 07 pax go to Guillemard from before Paya Lebar MRT
Guillemard Rd -- 48 (0/24), 63 (-3/18), 82 (-6/25), 103 (-4/25), 116 (-6/19) note that on Guillemard road itself 111 pax boarded the bus across 5 stops!!
Nicoll Highway -- 116 (0/0), 108 (-8/0) I alighted here at Nicoll Highway Concourse!
** Next bus on iris = 04 mins, bus ahead = 07 mins.
** This somewhat shows 2 unique patterns for sv 70 loading
1. YCK Road to NEX
2. Guillemard Rd to CBD
** SBST could think of having downroutes from Guillemard road to CBD. Those buses that end at Shenton Way go off service can do downroute from Guillemard, will still get 100+ pax.
Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:Dont punch me... but I got a feeling sv 39 loading has somewhat tanked in PM peak... AM still quite high... but PM noticed many times when I am driving on TPE... that even SDs are not absolutely packed.
i take 39 regular. most peop think 39 load most for yishun. no true. most load is pasir ris town. pasir ris to yishun 60 peop during peak but good to double decker as long tpe distance. so people go in comfort.
from place like tamp av 2, east cc, 39 only service to pasir ris dr 1 through through. and lot peop take 39.
Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:I know it can be challenging to keep accurate loading on stops where there is high alighting/boarding. I used to face this challenge quite a bit before. Here are a few tips what you could do:
Let's take for example sv 154 during AM peak towards Eunos. At Clementi MRT, you will typically have 35-40 pax alighting (from HDBs/condos along AYE), at the same time you will have some +50 pax boarding towards Ngee Ann.
This is what I do:
Take row 5 window of upper deck.
When the bus arrives to stop, I count the people who come close to door to board. Your concentration needs to be on people boarding at same time with one eye and your fingers you count pax alighting. Everytime 10 pax alight, deduct from those boarding.
Try doing it few times, you will find your own trick. I won't say it will be accurate, but it is still a good estimate +/- 5 pax.
I have validated this by then taking the count at King Albert and going to lower deck and verifying my count v/s those actually in bus. It has been pretty accurate 2-3 pax +/- but in overall scheme of things, it's not much! Let me know if this helps :)
The part that I have NOT BEEN able to master yet is loading calculation on bendy buses. Extremely tough.
thank you sir. sorry i reply late. not come here for few day. had busy project to do. now will do some travel and joyride.
Originally posted by proudtobeme:thank you sir. sorry i reply late. not come here for few day. had busy project to do. now will do some travel and joyride.
You are welcome!
Recorded a short clip of 113's loading after 6pm. While LTA said the loading is only 46% and has more than enuf space for ppl to board :/
Maybe 53M would solve the problem.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x31sfvf
SBS3844M was very crowded and no seats were available on the upper deck (When I sat on) and the lower deck
Originally posted by SBS5010P:Recorded a short clip of 113's loading after 6pm. While LTA said the loading is only 46% and has more than enuf space for ppl to board :/
Maybe 53M would solve the problem.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x31sfvf
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:Dont punch me... but I got a feeling sv 39 loading has somewhat tanked in PM peak... AM still quite high... but PM noticed many times when I am driving on TPE... that even SDs are not absolutely packed.
Instead of deploy DDs on 103 why dont they increase the number of DDs for 70?
Originally posted by carbikebus:Instead of deploy DDs on 103 why dont they increase the number of DDs for 70?
Yes I agree 103 is still not in dire need of DDs. 103 peak load comes at Jalan Kayu for Sengkang West residents to Serangoon/YCK Road.. 70 is doing very well... and has 43/43M/103 to supplement it to Serangoon.
The deployment of DDs on sv 70 in AM is quite good. You have all DDs reaching Shenton Way between 08.00 and 09.00am. Before and after is when the SDs are deployed. Similarly, before 17.45 you have all SDs deployed departing from Shenton Way and the DDs start in a straight row right after. The problem is the SDs that depart at 16.45 to 17.45 already reach NEX in PM peak and are not able to tank the load there. This is where 43M comes handy, but those for Seletar Heights, sometimes have issue with boarding. Hence, there are 2 DD downroutes that start from NEX.
will be observing 53/M in a month's time.
Surprisingly loading on 324 has been increasing significantly... Even after PM peak there are still quite a number of standees when departing Hougang Ctrl Int
Originally posted by Sbs6750E:Did you know sv 50’s load can be very very high during Sundays? Main boarding points: * Blk 235, Sengkang Mrt (Sengkang East Way) *Seletar Mall
- Ch of St. Vincent De Paul
Hi mr sbs6750E, yes we know. This is the most direct service connecting sengkang easy way to sengkang west avenue. Most direct and most convenient. Many people took it from Blk 235 to sengkang MRT even though it is just a stop. Many people also take from sengkang Mrt to Blk 317B along sengkang east way, Blk 313 anchorvale Rd stop, anchor green primary school stop and pei Hwa Sec school stop. Cheers.
Originally posted by Sbs6750E:Same case as 371. You will be standing very near the door even pass 8 PM.
Hi mr sbs6750E, yes sbs 371 is super popular. It is the most direct to rivervale drive and rivervale crescent. Other than this, there is only the indirect Sbs 86 (1 round) plus LRT. This is one of the shortest and yet most effective bus service launched during BSEP which I think they introduced best. Cheers.
Originally posted by Sbs6750E:Same case as 371. You will be standing very near the door even pass 8 PM.
Yes I have observed 371 to be packed to door... observed 5 buses... each took 60+ pax with people left behind in queue... I am actually surprised that when LTA has been generously or rather in some cases even unnecessarily been adding buses to feeders... 371 has still not got fleet add.. i am sure suddenly we will see 2 buses added..
371 will also do well with DDs... people who board 371 mostly alight along Rivervale Crescent, so can go upper deck.. in that case 2 DDs, 2 SDs will be enough.
SMRT 67 double deck is well utilise by commuters.My Auntie whom always travel with 67 from Tampines Ave 5 all the way to CCK estates to visit her sibling even waited for the DDs nowadays compared to single and bendy buses..