Originally posted by jurongresident:
I feel that this article is biased. There is no source to support their claims, besides that brief mention of bid prices. The article seems to promote the Go-Ahead Group.
No surprise, is it? UK publication supporting a UK company.
Originally posted by TIB868X:No surprise, is it? UK publication supporting a UK company.
the writer was paid to do his job. Unfortunately his instructions were to override professional standards. Even I could do it cheaper, better and faster than he.
ah well, another piece of gutter journalism I reckon.
I know lobbying has become worse year after year.
But if everyone is so cynical towards news agencies and even trade magazines, what else can we believe in?
Nothing.
Absolutely nothing.
For a start, look at how blatant promotional messages are being passed off as "news" in Hong Kong these days.
the only "trustworthy" news source to date has been The Real Singapore, now reincarnated as States Times Review.
Originally posted by jurongresident:May the best bids win the contracts.
After which, the local companies that are weak may want to merge, be absorbed, or dissolve – if they only have business in Singapore.
Anyway, it’s the jobs that matter, not the companies.
Two outcomes are possible by 2022:
1. GCM turns out to be a disaster and the government has to come up with an alternative bus transport masterplan.
2. GCM turns out to be successful and the government tenders out all remaining parcels. If market conditions or/and margins do not improve for the incumbents, they may exit the bus industry altogether (through M&A of their bus bussiness) and focus on their rail business.
Originally posted by sgbuses:Two outcomes are possible by 2022:
1. GCM turns out to be a disaster and the government has to come up with an alternative bus transport masterplan.
2. GCM turns out to be successful and the government tenders out all remaining parcels. If market conditions or/and margins do not improve for the incumbents, they may exit the bus industry altogether (through M&A of their bus bussiness) and focus on their rail business.
dunno whether it will be a disaster or not, but i do know that the cost will be going up..
$100mil per package per year x 12 package = $1 200 mil... just for the cost of operation (exclude depot set up cost/cost of buying new buses)...
revenue per quarter from bus operation (SBST and SMRT) is around 260 mil.. which is around 1 040 mil yearly.....
wef 31 dec 2015, all the current BSEP buses ownership will be transferred back to LTA. .
Originally posted by lemon1974:dunno whether it will be a disaster or not, but i do know that the cost will be going up..
$100mil per package per year x 12 package = $1 200 mil... just for the cost of operation (exclude depot set up cost/cost of buying new buses)...
revenue per quarter from bus operation (SBST and SMRT) is around 260 mil.. which is around 1 040 mil yearly.....
Looking at other case studies of bus contracting and if lobbyists indeed get their way, everyone should be mentally prepared to pay minimum $3.76 card fare for a basic bus ride during peak hour travel.
Originally posted by sgbuses:Looking at other case studies of bus contracting and if lobbyists indeed get their way, everyone should be mentally prepared to pay minimum $3.76 card fare for a basic bus ride during peak hour travel.
dun think will be so high? maybe 10-20% increase in fares....
frankly speaking, we do not need LTA to increase the number of buses from 290 to 390 for the bulim packages, even though there might be 3 new services (might use around 30 buses), that mean balance 70 more buses for 26 service, which mean fleet add of 2 buses per service...
Originally posted by sgbuses:Looking at other case studies of bus contracting and if lobbyists indeed get their way, everyone should be mentally prepared to pay minimum $3.76 card fare for a basic bus ride during peak hour travel.
Indeed, people in Hong Kong are paying this kind of fares for long-haul. You might think short-haul is chdaper, but they have zero transfer rebates too.
But the Government looks set to subsidize this through GCM. If it had charged the fare required for full cost recovery, I think it will be politically costly. They are already taking over the system bit-by-bit to prevent the operators from throwing in the towel.
Im not suprised if Go Ahead wins
When is the respraying/all that for LTA common livery expected to start? Perhaps some time next year?
Originally posted by CB2883J:When is the respraying/all that for LTA common livery expected to start? Perhaps some time next year?
Originally posted by jurongresident:Apparently, it seems that a new prefix will be introduced from this month onwards, as part of the transition to the Government Contracting Model.
In an ideal situation everything is revealed at one go. New prefix, new common livery, you name it.
Originally posted by lemon1974:wef 31 dec 2015, all the current BSEP buses ownership will be transferred back to LTA. .
Looking at it, SBST is waiting till the last minute for mass redeployment...
I foresee AMDEP BSEP buses, BNDEP BSEP buses and SLBP BSEP buses maybe affected with the move...
Originally posted by SBS 9256 X:Looking at it, SBST is waiting till the last minute for mass redeployment...
I foresee AMDEP BSEP buses, BNDEP BSEP buses and SLBP BSEP buses maybe affected with the move...
there are still plenty of new BSEP citaros/Wrights which can be transferred to TT directly...
Originally posted by lemon1974:there are still plenty of new BSEP citaros/Wrights which can be transferred to TT directly...
These might get regged straight to the new prefix... why does nobody mention MAN A22s going to TT? I don't suppose the TT fleet is the ex-SBS BSEP buses only?
I hear also that the depots like Bulim and Loyang currently got some SBS Wrights with like partial livery only? Some say sides white some say rear white, what's going on with those...
Originally posted by CB2883J:These might get regged straight to the new prefix... why does nobody mention MAN A22s going to TT? I don't suppose the TT fleet is the ex-SBS BSEP buses only?
IMO, I mention about them coz some of the A22s are at BUDEP and serving the services in BBT... I myself will be wondering the mass redeployment for buses in JEI and Clementi Interchange
Originally posted by sgbuses:In an ideal situation everything is revealed at one go. New prefix, new common livery, you name it.
Actually, I would not be surprised if the new (no livery nor registration plate) BSEP buses purchased from around now onwards will be in the common livery and have the common prefix.
but I think all these would only go to bus services that would be in the GCM contracts, to replace non-BSEP buses, while increase bus fleet if needed, so that by the time the contracts begin, all buses in the packages would be owned by the Government.
for the other bus services which need more buses, I guess non-BSEP buses would be re-deployed there.
After every bus that would be in the GCM packages are BSEP, any non-BSEP bus that is not in use would probably retire, because after that, there will still be more BSEP buses coming in.
TowerTransit Singapore is coming in Q2 2016 and all of 334's buses will be transferred to other bus services
Tower Transit reportedly offering 5% higher starting salary to try to entice BC to join them... wonder how many BC it can manage to employ... what if it does not manage to recruit enough BCs when it start operation?
Originally posted by lemon1974:Tower Transit reportedly offering 5% higher starting salary to try to entice BC to join them... wonder how many BC it can manage to employ... what if it does not manage to recruit enough BCs when it start operation?
I applied also nv get interview... Maybe over-qualified and also no Class 4 license.. Only Class 3...
Created new topic over at http://sgforums.com/forums/1279/topics/490505?page=1
When new GCM buses come in get registered/resprayed we can consolidate there.