Capacity Upgrade/Downgrade Reporting on Bus Services
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
Since when Yishun feeders get MAN DDs?
804 is almost entirely made up of A24's. A handful on 806 also. All on N3/N4 area.
And of course 811 and the sole A24 on 812.
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
Since when Yishun feeders get MAN DDs?
i think he say that yis feeder shud get man dd. iagree with him.
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Originally posted by SMB145B:
... chut pattern or app screw-up?
854 has a number of rigids, but should replace them with DDs.
969 is littered with A22s, very little DDs.
bendies should appear on svcs like 812, 851, 902, 904, 962
804, 806 should have gotten their share of A95s. 804 has been spammed with A22s and A24s and O405Gs comes very infrequently.
969 got many dd now. many crossover. but deployment in tamp bad. i see now back to back dd leave tamp at 4-5 min interval with less than 30 peop and then big gap and then bus get 100 peop. i get so irritate. stupid bc cannot wait for more 10 min than go back to back. see queue empty yet queue back to back and leave immediate.
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Originally posted by proudtobeme:
i think he say that yis feeder shud get man dd. iagree with him.
AMDEP only got 1 MAN DD. So, I not sure how it will deploy this one MAN DD. Maybe its best if can deploy on Yis feeder like 804/806 or 860.
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I quote from SMB145B reply:804, 806 should have gotten their share of A95s. 804 has been spammed with A22s and A24s and O405Gs comes very infrequently.,He say A95 not A24
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Originally posted by proudtobeme:
969 got many dd now. many crossover. but deployment in tamp bad. i see now back to back dd leave tamp at 4-5 min interval with less than 30 peop and then big gap and then bus get 100 peop. i get so irritate. stupid bc cannot wait for more 10 min than go back to back. see queue empty yet queue back to back and leave immediate.
like that put schedule for what? if only SBST/SMRT know when the pax are coming, but they dunno.... today u see back to back no ppl, tom u go see same timing maybe both buses are full.... pls do not scold the BC... they did not offend you..
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
I quote from SMB145B reply:804, 806 should have gotten their share of A95s. 804 has been spammed with A22s and A24s and O405Gs comes very infrequently.,He say A95 not A24
high chance it is a typo.. it should be A24, instead of A95...
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Originally posted by proudtobeme:
969 got many dd now. many crossover. but deployment in tamp bad. i see now back to back dd leave tamp at 4-5 min interval with less than 30 peop and then big gap and then bus get 100 peop. i get so irritate. stupid bc cannot wait for more 10 min than go back to back. see queue empty yet queue back to back and leave immediate.
I think if back to back like Townlink 291/293 still okay as the loading is very heavy... I was utterly dissappointed with the deployment for 969 during weekends... I was on my way back from Tampines when a rigid came instead... Then along the way all rigid until I reach Yishun then a DD heading towards Tampines...
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Originally posted by SBS 9256 X:
I think if back to back like Townlink 291/293 still okay as the loading is very heavy... I was utterly dissappointed with the deployment for 969 during weekends... I was on my way back from Tampines when a rigid came instead... Then along the way all rigid until I reach Yishun then a DD heading towards Tampines...
969 should have majority DD fleets..See the huge improvement 168 made though its always face bunchings
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Originally posted by lemon1974:
like that put schedule for what? if only SBST/SMRT know when the pax are coming, but they dunno.... today u see back to back no ppl, tom u go see same timing maybe both buses are full.... pls do not scold the BC... they did not offend you..
some people also refuse to stand on 969 tampines... legs made of glass?
anyway yeah they're just following schedule. the root problem is people dont want stand from tamp.
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Originally posted by proudtobeme:
969 got many dd now. many crossover. but deployment in tamp bad. i see now back to back dd leave tamp at 4-5 min interval with less than 30 peop and then big gap and then bus get 100 peop. i get so irritate. stupid bc cannot wait for more 10 min than go back to back. see queue empty yet queue back to back and leave immediate.
In morning just before AM Peak, a few A22s and 1 O405G then 1 E50. Yet in the evening, mostly high capacity.
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Originally posted by TIB868X:
some people also refuse to stand on 969 tampines... legs made of glass?
anyway yeah they're just following schedule. the root problem is people dont want stand from tamp.
The point is pax prefer seats.
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Originally posted by lemon1974:
high chance it is a typo.. it should be A24, instead of A95...
Not typo
Since someone said 804 has majority A24, why not put just the sole A95 on 804/806 for trial?
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Originally posted by SMB145B:
The point is pax prefer seats.
we live in a city not the countryside. standing is a fact of life in a city. how many buses will be needed if people have that mentality?
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Originally posted by TIB868X:
we live in a city not the countryside. standing is a fact of life in a city. how many buses will be needed if people have that mentality?
Lol, so what could we do about it?
Arrest people who refuse to board?
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Originally posted by TIB868X:
we live in a city not the countryside. standing is a fact of life in a city. how many buses will be needed if people have that mentality?
Standing?
We have SLs that anyhow jam brakes and flooring accelerator. This makes standing very uncomfortable during long rides.
Technically, we neither live in a city nor the countryside.
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Originally posted by SMB128B:
Lol, so what could we do about it?
Arrest people who refuse to board?
don't give them ideas.
hmm "People can board the train, it is whether they choose to." - SPH former CEO of SMRT
buses and trains are different
if i had to stand, i would prefer to stand inside the train car instead of standing inside the bus.if there are seats on the bus, go for it, beats standing in train anytime. a seat on any trains is like hitting a jackpot.
standing on buses < standing in trains < sitting in buses < sitting in trains
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
Svc that need to reduce buses:966 & 972.
Svc that need reduce SDs and replace with HC buses:169,176,187,854,960,969
Svc that need replace SDs with HC buses:67,167,172,190,859,860,912,913,961,985
Svc that need fleet additions:61,852,855,950,970,975,980 & 981.
Not really supportive...
Sv966 need not reduce buses, the demand is there. Frequency also not really consistent given the fact that it jams a long the route.
Sv169, 187 should get more SDs instead. Frequency jialat max.
Sv859 need some fleet add also. Sv961 BAT also got issue alr...forget about this haha
Sv950? If only authority allows 950A which ends at Wdl CIQ...
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Originally posted by SMB145B:
Standing?
We have SLs that anyhow jam brakes and flooring accelerator. This makes standing very uncomfortable during long rides.
Technically, we neither live in a city nor the countryside.
It's not about the driving.
Like come on, ppl take buses because there's seats.
I don't mind skipping 1-2 969 buses if I need to sit. Similarly, I don't mind walking down 1-2 bus stops just to get more seats. Your journey can be long. After a long tiring day, who wish to stand?
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180 need DD, Rode on A24 on 180 during peak hour at 6pm, From Lakeside MRT to BPJ, pax is full to the door with minimal alighting throughout the whole route, almost all the pax alighted at BPJ and the bus went empty towards BNL. Useful to give split DDs though. Can be like 972 case, uni-directional peak loading
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Originally posted by TIB429E:
It's not about the driving.
Like come on, ppl take buses because there's seats.
I don't mind skipping 1-2 969 buses if I need to sit. Similarly, I don't mind walking down 1-2 bus stops just to get more seats. Your journey can be long. After a long tiring day, who wish to stand?
Which is one of the reason why i dislike taking MRTs hehehe
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Originally posted by SMB128B:
Lol, so what could we do about it?
Arrest people who refuse to board?
to some extent 969 is overdeployed especially in the evening. SMRT shouldn't waste resources for people who refuse to stand. waste of time and space.
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I don't understand what is the issue with standing. People have been standing on buses in Singapore for a very long time, and then suddenly bus companies have to provide for pampered, lazy, self entitled people?
If people in the past can board and stand right at the front next to the radiator on an Olympian, or right next to the engine on a front engined bus, both of which are non-airconditioned, why can't people nowadays stand in the aisle of a low floor bus? Its not like there has been a massive and simultaneous genetic mutation that renders humans incapable of standing.
So suddenly, people are complaining that a certain bus company is buying too many SDs, when the real issue is people refusing to stand. And who is going to pay for any upsizing of buses? Nobody, because people complain about fare hikes. Don't expect LTA to stop buying SDs, because under the GCM, they will be the one bearing the costs, and I would expect them to cut down on unnecessary usage or overcapacity using whatever data they may obtain.
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Originally posted by SBS351M:
I don't understand what is the issue with standing. People have been standing on buses in Singapore for a very long time, and then suddenly bus companies have to provide for pampered, lazy, self entitled people?
If people in the past can board and stand right at the front next to the radiator on an Olympian, or right next to the engine on a front engined bus, both of which are non-airconditioned, why can't people nowadays stand in the aisle of a low floor bus? Its not like there has been a massive and simultaneous genetic mutation that renders humans incapable of standing.
When I was a schoolkid, the conductor would slam his fist/clipboard/etc against the bodywork as hard as he could and yell at passengers to move in. That is no longer acceptable in Singapore (except at Woodlands/JB checkpoints).
We might get to see that again in half a years' time. This might just solve the problem.
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Well, nobody asked the operators to add more buses...
By all means, even if SMRT did not fleet add, the passengers are gonna wait for the next buses or so. Like it or not, it's liddat.
And if there's profit making, I don't see why the operators shouldn't "waste resources".
Are you gonna lecture people for not boarding? Well, usually when the queue stops boarding, those outside the queues will start to board. Eventually, the buses departed is also somewhat full.
*It's not to a pathetic state where the bus left Tamp int with 40 pax(all seated, no standees)