New Bus Services Announced by LTA/PTOs
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Originally posted by SBS 9256 X:
I guess this would be the Seletar Aerospace Area/West Camp side or Yishun Ave 1/Ave 6 area? Quite a few tree branches protruding out...
Yishun Ave 6.
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Originally posted by AntiDennisLance:
So the upgrade was for 1 DD only? So now 0 DD's le ah?
0 until further testing is complete
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Even with students and office workers, do not expect sardine-standard loading on the Marine Parade - Tanah Merah sector of svc 47.
There are currently quite a number of services which duplicate this svc here. One of which is 31, with an average freq of 7-10 min. Peak freq can reach 4-5 min.
The nature of this route is clear that it merely provides a convenient alternative for students and some residents. In other words, nobody will patiently and specifically wait for this svc. Given how its counterparts could achieve better frequencies I foresee this svc to not really receive a lot of pax at these sectors.
My verdict being this svc at the mentioned sector will, at most, only reach a 1/4 filled DD, or a half-filled SD with some standees.
I hope a svc 47A, running from CBP to Tanah Merah Stn and back during peak, exists. That way 47A can use full fleet DDs while 47 itself can use full fleet SDs coz I seriously dont find the east coast sector justifiable for DDs there.
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Originally posted by SMB128B:
Even with students and office workers, do not expect sardine-standard loading on the Marine Parade - Tanah Merah sector of svc 47.
There are currently quite a number of services which duplicate this svc here. One of which is 31, with an average freq of 7-10 min. Peak freq can reach 4-5 min.
The nature of this route is clear that it merely provides a convenient alternative for students and some residents. In other words, nobody will patiently and specifically wait for this svc. Given how its counterparts could achieve better frequencies I foresee this svc to not really receive a lot of pax at these sectors.
My verdict being this svc at the mentioned sector will, at most, only reach a 1/4 filled DD, or a half-filled SD with some standees.
I hope a svc 47A, running from CBP to Tanah Merah Stn and back during peak, exists. That way 47A can use full fleet DDs while 47 itself can use full fleet SDs coz I seriously dont find the east coast sector justifiable for DDs there.
47 can & should merge with 125.
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"New" Bus Service 170A (Queen St - Woodlands Ctr Rd) from 27 Dec 2015
- Operates daily from 0600 - 0000
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Originally posted by iveco:
47 can & should merge with 125.
NO. Not possible.
If at all 47 can merge with 43 with 43 plying current 48 route from Tanah Merah, and 48 doing the route of 10 to Bedok North Depot.
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I sincerely hope 45 gets extended to CBP. Missing link to UEC can be covered by sv 14.
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
I sincerely hope 45 gets extended to CBP. Missing link to UEC can be covered by sv 14.
14 alone is insufficient to cover the massive crowds to UEC.
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Originally posted by SBS2652G:
"New" Bus Service 170A (Queen St - Woodlands Ctr Rd) from 27 Dec 2015
- Operates daily from 0600 - 0000
Wastage of resources...
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Originally posted by SMB128B:
14 alone is insufficient to cover the massive crowds to UEC.
More than sufficient. By the way do you even go that side? If you do you will know that UEC-Tanah Merah is only 4 stops with mostly landed and private housing. There are no HDBs or huge condos there.
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Originally posted by SMB128B:
Wastage of resources...
suspected 170 reduce trips on BB side, while 170A pump in from HGDEP side to ensure smoother and more evenly spread out svcs
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Originally posted by SBS2652G:
"New" Bus Service 170A (Queen St - Woodlands Ctr Rd) from 27 Dec 2015
- Operates daily from 0600 - 0000
Is this under BSEP? Possibility of DDs being deployed?
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Originally posted by SinkTel:
Is this under BSEP? Possibility of DDs being deployed?
Nope, is not under BSEP. I feel there is a possibility of it having DDs to serve..
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
More than sufficient. By the way do you even go that side? If you do you will know that UEC-Tanah Merah is only 4 stops with mostly landed and private housing. There are no HDBs or huge condos there.
I work there.
Every day, I wait for the bus home at 6+pm at Tanah Merah Stn towards Changi.
You'll be surprised to know, buses heading to UEC receive the most of the sea of passengers, even more than svcs like 12 and 35. At least 60+ pax crowd into every bus that comes. As you have said it's only 4 stops, so DDs essentially become an SD here. Thus at times passengers are stranded for the next bus.
If you do not believe me go check it out the next time. Trust me I'm not lying.
Do you wanna know the freq of 14? Yes, it is at least 9 mins per bus on avg during peak. Without 45, 9 mins is too long! How many people would have accumulated by the time 9 minutes passes?!
Clearly there is a need for svc 45, not only to alleviate the crush loadings back to UEC, but also to allow passengers to wait less for a bus.
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Originally posted by SBS2652G:
suspected 170 reduce trips on BB side, while 170A pump in from HGDEP side to ensure smoother and more evenly spread out svcs
170 loading alr pathetic... Why still need 170A?
Unless u tell me 170 shorten, then ofc why not.
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Originally posted by SBS2652G:
"New" Bus Service 170A (Queen St - Woodlands Ctr Rd) from 27 Dec 2015
- Operates daily from 0600 - 0000
i think it's somehow indirectly related to minister khaw talking about teething issues when DTL2 starts operating soon
LTA also mentions (at FB) about increasing the key trunk services between city & housing estates along the DTL, in case DTL got disrupted. so this might be related
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Originally posted by SMB128B:
170 loading alr pathetic... Why still need 170A?
Unless u tell me 170 shorten, then ofc why not.
I feel that sooner or later 170 will have better loading by fetching people from DTL2 stations to bus stops along Bt Timah Rd / Upp Bt Timah Rd... Just like what svc 2 is doing along EWL's route. -
Should have introduce 170A Bt Panjang-Woodlands Checkpoint instead.
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And Punggol still doesn't have a direct full day bus to town. (Don't tell me that Punggol residents should just and only rely on the NEL to get to town)
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Originally posted by SBS 9256 X:
Nope, is not under BSEP. I feel there is a possibility of it having DDs to serve..
Probably citaros, DD unlikely.
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Observation for 47:
Crowd(1/4 full, minus bus fans) alights at Parkway...
Thereafter less than 5 passengers till M Parade Rd...
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Originally posted by Acx1688:
Observation for 47:
Crowd(1/4 full, minus bus fans) alights at Parkway...
Thereafter less than 5 passengers till M Parade Rd...
47 does not deserve DDs... At most only the CBP sector does
They should intro SWT between CBP and TM with full fleet DD to make up for full SD fleet
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Originally posted by SBS7557R:
And Punggol still doesn't have a direct full day bus to town. (Don't tell me that Punggol residents should just and only rely on the NEL to get to town)
82 should merge with 107. Makes the most sense.
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Originally posted by SMB128B:
47 does not deserve DDs... At most only the CBP sector does
They should intro SWT between CBP and TM with full fleet DD to make up for full SD fleet
47 will need DDs because I foresee the bus to get 80+ pax bet CBP and Tanah Merah, post which loading will depend on whether other service called or not.
Also those coming in from ITE/Expo/CBP/Xilin etc and live along Marine Parade will prefer 47 over 31.
I foresee sv 31 loading to be hit in a major way bet Marine Parade and Tanah Merah.
In turn 47 will relieve loading on 35 (Xilin), 12 (Bedok South Rd), 31 (Marine Parade rd).