Route Suggestions (Part 6)

• AJQZC

  7 Nov 15, 06:54

  Originally posted by SBS9252G:

  I don't think there's plans to divert 502 once again. I don't think there's a need to introduce such services again in future.

  Don't bother replying to Path Light, he's just messing around with your head. Read through pages 23 to 32 of this thread, and you'll know what I'm talking about. Cheers.

• Path Light

  7 Nov 15, 08:28

  Originally posted by AJQZC:

  Don't bother replying to Path Light, he's just messing around with your head. Read through pages 23 to 32 of this thread, and you'll know what I'm talking about. Cheers.

  Reply to my comment

• AJQZC

  7 Nov 15, 08:53

  Originally posted by Path Light:

  Reply to my comment

  

• Path Light

  7 Nov 15, 09:14

  When Service 503 was introduced, it will have 18 DDs

• SBS9252G

  7 Nov 15, 11:20

  Originally posted by AJQZC:

  Don't bother replying to Path Light, he's just messing around with your head. Read through pages 23 to 32 of this thread, and you'll know what I'm talking about. Cheers.

  It's been a long time i have been back to the forum..My very last post before yesterday's is in Route Suggestion Part 5. I will slowly backtrack and see :)

• Path Light

  7 Nov 15, 12:04

  The construction of the Cross Island Line will be scrapped as 84 more new services are launched between 2018 and 2029

• Path Light

  7 Nov 15, 22:48

  Originally posted by jurongresident:

   

  Thank you for the meticulous recommendations.

  I would like to inform you that in any amendment made to any route, there will be people who would gain, while some skeptically affected. It is therefore necessary that the repercussion on patrons are gingerly appraised in advance of any amendment we may hereafter carry out.

  I have delved into your feedback to alter service 502 and introduce services 501 and 505.

  From my findings, it would appear that a consequential faction of existing patrons will be adversely affected if we change the route of service 502. They would lose their direct link between Jurong and the Central Business District, where the Orchard Road and the Marina Bay are located.

  I have seen the route of service 501 which you had proposed. While I acknowledge that this duplicates the route of existing service 502 between Jurong and the Central Business District, I am sorry to inform you that this is not a better alternative to how the existing route of service 502 is designed.

  The existing route of service 502 is economical, considering it takes the shortest possible alignment to navigate to and from the two areas it serve. Should we apply the route of service 501 you had advised, additional mileage would be incurred and fares may have to increase to correspond with the rise in costs of operations as a result.

  With regards to the idea of introducing service 505 between Jurong East and Seng Kang, I wish to inform you that it is not financially practical to run this service, as my observations have shown that very little people travel between these two places at any period of the day.

  Bearing in mind of the above, I am sorry to inform you that I am not able to acquiesce your requests. In spite of that, every suggestion is important. Do rest assured that all of us here have noted your suggestions and will allow for them when we want to suggest express bus routes.

  Thank you for writing in.

  For your information, my new extension of Service 502 which is after reaching Orchard Road, turn left to Prinsep Street (Which follows Service 147's route until Upper Serangoon Road), turn left to Yio Chu Kang Link (Until reaching Yio Chu Kang Road then turn right to Sengkang West Road), Sengkang West Avenue, Jalan Kayu, Sengkang West Way, Sengkang East Way, Sengkang East Road and Sengkang Square. It would look different from Service 502's route in January 2003

• array88

  8 Nov 15, 07:18

  Originally posted by AJQZC:

  No! If that were the case, Yew Tee residents would have to travel through all of CCK and compete with Ave 5 residents for the DTL. Not acceptable.

  For the shuttle to be efficient, it MUST NOT pass through CCK central. That leaves KJE / Stagmont Ring --> Woodlands Rd. Thus you need a standalone service from Bt Panjang Bus Park, or an extended one from Bt Batok.

  Sadly, you cannot turn from Stagmont Ring to Woodlands Rd towards Bukit Panjang. At least before construction starts. So yeah, only KJE.

• SBS9252G

  8 Nov 15, 14:50

  974
  Yew Tee-Clementi

   

  • CCK North St 62
  • CCK North 6
  • CCK Drive
  • CCK Ave 4
  • CCK Way
  • CCK Ave 3
  • CCK Ave 1
  • CCK Ave 6
  • Brickland Rd
  • Bt Batok Rd
  • Jurong Town Hall Rd
  • Jurong East Ave 1
  • Jurong East St 21
  • Jurong Gateway Rd
  • Toh Guan Rd
  • Jurong East St 11
  • Jurong Town Hall Rd
  • West Coast Rd
  • West Coast Highway
  • West Coast Link
  • West Coast Rd
  • Clementi Rd
  • Commonwealth Ave West
  • Clementi Ave 3

  Second Version: Skip C'wealth Ave West & Clementi Ave 3. Terminates at Kent Ridge Terminal.

   

   

• AJQZC

  8 Nov 15, 15:12

  Originally posted by SBS9252G:

  974
  Yew Tee-Clementi

   

  • CCK North St 62
  • CCK North 6
  • CCK Drive
  • CCK Ave 4
  • CCK Way
  • CCK Ave 3
  • CCK Ave 1
  • CCK Ave 6
  • Brickland Rd
  • Bt Batok Rd
  • Jurong Town Hall Rd
  • Jurong East Ave 1
  • Jurong East St 21
  • Jurong Gateway Rd
  • Toh Guan Rd
  • Jurong East St 11
  • Jurong Town Hall Rd
  • West Coast Rd
  • West Coast Highway
  • West Coast Link
  • West Coast Rd
  • Clementi Rd
  • Commonwealth Ave West
  • Clementi Ave 3

  Second Version: Skip C'wealth Ave West & Clementi Ave 3. Terminates at Kent Ridge Terminal.

  There are enough buses covering Clementi - West Coast, Jurong East - West Coast and Clementi - Jurong East ... so unless there's sufficient demand between Yew Tee and Clementi / West Coast, there's not quite a need for the Jurong East - Clementi section.

  Also consider that 160, 176 and 184 are quite easily available near Bt Panjang MRT Station.

• carbikebus

  8 Nov 15, 15:21

  825 extend to Amdep.Free up space for new service at YCK.

  171 shortened to BBT.New service from BPJ to Marina Centre.

  New service from Woodlands Int to Seletar Aerospace Park.

  New service from Sembawang to Sungei Kadut.

• AJQZC

  8 Nov 15, 16:20

  Originally posted by carbikebus:

  825 extend to Amdep.Free up space for new service at YCK.

  This one is still quite mysterious to me ... when was loading analysis last done on 825?

• carbikebus

  8 Nov 15, 16:59

  Originally posted by AJQZC:

  This one is still quite mysterious to me ... when was loading analysis last done on 825?

  Never before did analyse this svc..

• Path Light

  8 Nov 15, 18:56

  Originally posted by carbikebus:

  825 extend to Amdep.Free up space for new service at YCK.

  171 shortened to BBT.New service from BPJ to Marina Centre.

  New service from Woodlands Int to Seletar Aerospace Park.

  New service from Sembawang to Sungei Kadut.

  No! Service 171 goes from Yishun to Marina Centre. There is no way it will be shortened!

• Path Light

  8 Nov 15, 19:57

  Service 502:
  Boon Lay > Sengkang

  Jurong West Central 3, Jalan Boon Lay, Boon Lay Avenue, Corporation Road, Jurong West Avenue 1, Jurong East Avenue 1, Jurong Town Hall Road, Pan Island Expressway, Thomson Road, Newton Road, Scotts Road, Orchard Road, Prinsep Street, Selegie Road, Serangoon Road, Upper Serangoon Road, Boundary Road, Yio Chu Kang Link, Yio Chu Kang Road, Sengkang West Road, Sengkang West Avenue, Jalan Kayu, Sengkang West Way, Sengkang East Way, Sengkang East Road and Sengkang Square

  Service 503:
  Sengkang > Jurong East

  Sengkang Square, Compassvale Road, Compassvale Street, Punggol Road, Tampines Expressway, Central Expressway, Yio Chu Kang Road, Yio Chu Kang Link, Boundary Road, Upper Serangoon Road, Pan Island Expressway, Jurong Town Hall Road, Boon Lay Way, Jurong East Central and Jurong Gateway Road

• AJQZC

  8 Nov 15, 20:23

  Originally posted by carbikebus:

  New service from Woodlands Int to Seletar Aerospace Park.

   

   

  Originally posted by AJQZC, on page 18:

  Possible extension of 102:

  Service 102: Hougang Int - Woodlands Int

  • Hougang Ctrl
  • (current 102 route towards Sengkang West Way)
  • Sengkang West Way
  • Jln Kayu
  • TPE
  • Seletar West Link (express)
  • Yishun Ave 1
  • Yishun St 41
    
  • Yishun Ring Rd
  • Yishun Ave 2
  • Yishun Ave 1 (non-stop)
  • Sembawang Rd
  • Mandai Rd
  • SLE
  • Woodlands Ave 12 (non-stop)
    
  • Woodlands Ave 5
  • Woodlands Ave 2
  • Woodlands Sq
    

  May be somewhat redundant for those travelling between Woodlands / Yishun / Sengkang, but allows more connectivity to outlying areas (Yishun St 41, Springside, Mandai reservoir) from Khatib station, improving it as a transfer point.

  Something like this? Minus the Hougang - TPE sector, then extend to Seletar Aerospace Park?

• Path Light

  8 Nov 15, 20:25

  Service 502:
  Boon Lay > Sengkang

  Jurong West Central 3, Jalan Boon Lay, Boon Lay Avenue, Corporation Road, Jurong West Avenue 1, Jurong East Avenue 1, Jurong Town Hall Road, Pan Island Expressway, Thomson Road, Newton Road, Scotts Road, Orchard Road, Prinsep Street, Selegie Road, Serangoon Road, Upper Serangoon Road, Boundary Road, Yio Chu Kang Link, Yio Chu Kang Road, Sengkang West Road, Sengkang West Avenue, Jalan Kayu, Sengkang West Way, Sengkang East Way, Sengkang East Road and Sengkang Square

  Service 503:
  Sengkang > Jurong East

  Sengkang Square, Compassvale Road, Compassvale Street, Punggol Road, Tampines Expressway, Central Expressway, Yio Chu Kang Road, Yio Chu Kang Link, Boundary Road, Upper Serangoon Road, Pan Island Expressway, Jurong Town Hall Road, Boon Lay Way, Jurong East Central and Jurong Gateway Road

  Demand for both Service 502 and 503: Extremely high

• SBS9252G

  8 Nov 15, 20:29

  171

  Sembawang - Yew Tee

   

  • Sembawang Vista
  • Canberra Rd
  • Sembawang Rd
  • Mandai Ave
  • Mandai Rd
  • BKE
  • Bukit Panjang Rd
  • Pending Rd
  • Jelebu Rd
  • Bukit Panjang Rd
  • Upper Bukit Timah Rd
  • KJE
  • CCK Way
  • CCK North 6
  • CCK North St 62

  973

  Bukit Panjang-Marina Centre

  • Jelebu Rd
  • Bukit Panjang Rd
  • Upp Bukit Timah Rd
  • Jalan Anak Bukit
  • Bukit Timah Rd
  • Dunearn Rd
  • Newton Rd
  • Scotts Rd
  • Orchard Rd
  • Bras Basah Rd
  • Raffles Blvd

  
  

   

• Path Light

  8 Nov 15, 20:33

  Originally posted by SBS9252G:

  171

  Sembawang - Yew Tee

   

  • Sembawang Vista
  • Canberra Rd
  • Sembawang Rd
  • Mandai Ave
  • Mandai Rd
  • BKE
  • Bukit Panjang Rd
  • Pending Rd
  • Jelebu Rd
  • Bukit Panjang Rd
  • Upper Bukit Timah Rd
  • KJE
  • CCK Way
  • CCK North 6
  • CCK North St 62

  973

  Bukit Panjang-Marina Centre

  • Jelebu Rd
  • Bukit Panjang Rd
  • Upp Bukit Timah Rd
  • Jalan Anak Bukit
  • Bukit Timah Rd
  • Dunearn Rd
  • Newton Rd
  • Scotts Rd
  • Orchard Rd
  • Bras Basah Rd
  • Raffles Blvd

  
  

   

  No! 171 is the very catchy route from Yishun to Marina Centre. Cannot shortern Service 171

• SBS2652G

  8 Nov 15, 20:44

  Originally posted by SBS9252G:

  171

  Sembawang - Yew Tee

   

  • Sembawang Vista
  • Canberra Rd
  • Sembawang Rd
  • Mandai Ave
  • Mandai Rd
  • BKE
  • Bukit Panjang Rd
  • Pending Rd
  • Jelebu Rd
  • Bukit Panjang Rd
  • Upper Bukit Timah Rd
  • KJE
  • CCK Way
  • CCK North 6
  • CCK North St 62

  973

  Bukit Panjang-Marina Centre

  • Jelebu Rd
  • Bukit Panjang Rd
  • Upp Bukit Timah Rd
  • Jalan Anak Bukit
  • Bukit Timah Rd
  • Dunearn Rd
  • Newton Rd
  • Scotts Rd
  • Orchard Rd
  • Bras Basah Rd
  • Raffles Blvd

  
  

   

  good job for 171. No point for a duplicative svc where there is a faster option between Yishun and the city (857)

• AJQZC

  8 Nov 15, 20:50

  Originally posted by SBS2652G:

  good job for 171. No point for a duplicative svc where there is a faster option between Yishun and the city (857)

  Consider the high duplicity of the other section (973) with 67 and 170 ... direct link from eastern Bt Panjang to Dunearn Rd is also lost.

  Diverting 171 to Yew Tee is a very risky move as well, as longer routes have more tendency to bunch.

  Overall ... quite many considerations to take into account when amending a unique route such as 171. Best to watch loading patterns after DTL2 opens.

• SBS 9256 X

  8 Nov 15, 20:56

  Originally posted by SBS2652G:

  good job for 171. No point for a duplicative svc where there is a faster option between Yishun and the city (857)

  I agree also. A faster alternative route to Marina Centre is 857. I think too many duplication for Svc 171.

  Bukit Panjang - Orchard: 190, 972
  Bukit Panjang - Marina Centre: 960

  I will think that Svc 171 is the service that will be amended... Maybe extend to Yew Tee besides with the extension to 983?

• Path Light

  8 Nov 15, 20:59

  Originally posted by SBS2652G:

  good job for 171. No point for a duplicative svc where there is a faster option between Yishun and the city (857)

  Bad job for 171. 171 is a catchy route from Yishun to Marina Centre. Hopefully 171 can be extended to Shenton Way

• Path Light

  8 Nov 15, 21:00

  Service 502:
  Boon Lay > Sengkang

  Jurong West Central 3, Jalan Boon Lay, Boon Lay Avenue, Corporation Road, Jurong West Avenue 1, Jurong East Avenue 1, Jurong Town Hall Road, Pan Island Expressway, Thomson Road, Newton Road, Scotts Road, Orchard Road, Prinsep Street, Selegie Road, Serangoon Road, Upper Serangoon Road, Boundary Road, Yio Chu Kang Link, Yio Chu Kang Road, Sengkang West Road, Sengkang West Avenue, Jalan Kayu, Sengkang West Way, Sengkang East Way, Sengkang East Road and Sengkang Square

  Service 503:
  Sengkang > Jurong East

  Sengkang Square, Compassvale Road, Compassvale Street, Punggol Road, Tampines Expressway, Central Expressway, Yio Chu Kang Road, Yio Chu Kang Link, Boundary Road, Upper Serangoon Road, Pan Island Expressway, Jurong Town Hall Road, Boon Lay Way, Jurong East Central and Jurong Gateway Road

  Demand for both Service 502 and 503: Extremely high

• Path Light

  8 Nov 15, 21:02

  Originally posted by SBS 9256 X:

  I agree also. A faster alternative route to Marina Centre is 857. I think too many duplication for Svc 171.

  Bukit Panjang - Orchard: 190, 972
  Bukit Panjang - Marina Centre: 960

  I will think that Svc 171 is the service that will be amended... Maybe extend to Yew Tee besides with the extension to 983?

  171 can join 857