Route Suggestions (Part 6)

• dupdup77

  28 Dec 15, 12:51

  Originally posted by AJQZC:

  In any case, I'd say it would still be helpful to divert either 75 or 184 to Beauty World Plaza for the link to Beauty World MRT (even if there's already 74/151 at KAP MRT). Also your point about duplication with 75 is invalid, as Cashew - Clementi Rd has always had 75 doubling 184, and this is not the fault in my suggestion. Cheers.

  Hi mr AJQZC, I have erroneously brought upon the point of smrt 75 which has no bearing on your part of the suggestion. Cheers. Thanks.

• iveco

  29 Dec 15, 01:13

  https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=z6ffxaKqvGsg.k8Mj5i9gvoUQ&usp=sharing

  My proposed Route 121 extension to Eunos.

• SBS9252G

  29 Dec 15, 17:48

  95 

  Buona Vista - Clementi MRT

  • Holland Dr
  • Nth BV Rd
  • Holland Rd
  • Holland Ave
  • C'wealth Ave
  • Nth BV Rd
  • Lower Kent Ridge Rd
  • Kent Ridge Crescent
  • Clementi Rd
  • Clementi Ave 2
  • Clementi Ave 5
  • Clementi Ave 4
  • C'wealth Ave West
  • Clementi Rd
  • ......

  - Serves Clementi residents from Ave 1,2,4,5 to NUH directly
  

  
  

  104

  Sengkang - St Michael

  • Sengkang Square
  • Sengkang East Way
  • Anchorvale Link
  • Anchorvale St
  • Fernvale Link
  • Sengkang West Way
  • Sengkang West Rd
  • Yio Chu Kang Rd
  • CTE
  • Braddell Rd
  • Upper Serangoon Rd
  • PIE
  • CTE
  • Moulmein Rd
  • Thomson Rd
  • Balestier Rd
  • Whampoa Dr
  • Jln Bahagia
  • Whampoa Rd

  -Serves Sengkang West & Potong Pasir to TTSH.

  
  

  991
  Bukit Batok - Sengkang
  

  • Bukit Batok Central
  • Bukit Batok West Ave 2,4,7,5
  • Bukit Batok Rd
  • CCK Rd
  • Bukit Panjang Rd
  • BKE
  • Mandai Rd
  • SLE
  • Sengkang West Rd
  • Sengkang West Way
  • Anchorvale Rd
  • Sengkang East Way
  • Sengkang Square

   

• AJQZC

  29 Dec 15, 18:28

  Originally posted by SBS9252G:

  991

  Bukit Batok - Sengkang
  

  • Bukit Batok Central
  • Bukit Batok West Ave 2,4,7,5
  • Bukit Batok Rd
  • CCK Rd
  • Bukit Panjang Rd
  • BKE
  • Mandai Rd
  • SLE
  • Sengkang West Rd
  • Sengkang West Way
  • Anchorvale Rd
  • Sengkang East Way
  • Sengkang Square

  BB - BPJ has 187, and BPJ - Mandai has 171. This section is unlikely to receive additional demand.

  Disregarding Mandai, long-distance travellers (Sengkang - BPJ / BB) usually commute by MRT, which is faster and more reliable.

  Consider adding more stops along your way to benefit those living there (esp. at Springleaf and Tagore). Or else make the route peak-hour and premium.

• AJQZC

  29 Dec 15, 18:40

  The route suggestion posted by AJQZC, edited:

  ===========================================

  Alternate suggestion to the above. Stagger stops at Bt Panjang MRT.

  SMRT Service 180: Extension to Yew Tee

  • 
    
  • Jurong West Ctrl 3
  • (current 180 route to CCK Rd)
  • 
    
  • CCK Rd
  • Upp Bt Timah Rd (non-stop)
  • Petir Rd
    
  • Jelebu Rd
  • Bt Panjang Rd (non-stop)
    
  • Woodlands Rd
  • KJE
  • CCK Dr
  • CCK North 5
  • CCK North 6
    
  • CCK Dr
  • KJE
  • Woodlands Rd
  • Upp Bt Timah Rd
  • Petir Rd (non-stop)
  • Jelebu Rd (non-stop)
    
  • Bt Panjang Rd
  • CCK Rd
  • 
    
  • (current 180 route to Boon Lay)
  • Jurong West Ctrl 3
    

  Repost -- in consideration of the observed below-average loading 180 has around Bt Panjang.

• array88

  29 Dec 15, 19:46

  Originally posted by AJQZC:

  Repost -- in consideration of the observed below-average loading 180 has around Bt Panjang.

  There's no way you can say 180 has low loading at Bukit Panjang. Just one week ago I was on 180 bendy from Bt Panjang Rd towards Boon Lay during AM peak. Despite it's during ITE holidays, bus already had no seats before the Bt Panjang Rd main stop and at least 30-40 pax boarded. BC already had to tell passengers to move in before hitting Bt Batok Rd.

  A lot of pax alighted once reaching Jurong Town Hall Rd. Bus was almost empty once it hits Chinese Garden, although still have 1/3 of seats filled with passengers towards Boon Lay.

• array88

  29 Dec 15, 20:46

  Originally posted by AJQZC:

  BB - BPJ has 187, and BPJ - Mandai has 171. This section is unlikely to receive additional demand.

  Disregarding Mandai, long-distance travellers (Sengkang - BPJ / BB) usually commute by MRT, which is faster and more reliable.

  Consider adding more stops along your way to benefit those living there (esp. at Springleaf and Tagore). Or else make the route peak-hour and premium.

  
  I believe the purpose of suggested 991 is more for direct link between Bukit Panjang and Sengkang, and hence duplication with 187 and 171 doesn't really matter. Plus Mandai Rd do not have that much demand itself.

  Bukit Panjang to Sengkang may still be faster than MRT (even with DTL2 in place), to some extent. Especially for Sengkang West.

• BusAnalayzer

  29 Dec 15, 21:14

  Originally posted by AJQZC:

  Repost -- in consideration of the observed below-average loading 180 has around Bt Panjang.

  My friend, you should know that if SMRT is deploying full fleet bendy on 180, then it should have super high bendy worthy loading. Otherwise just like it downgrades other services, 180 would also be one of them.

• AJQZC

  30 Dec 15, 09:15

  Originally posted by array88:

  
  I believe the purpose of suggested 991 is more for direct link between Bukit Panjang and Sengkang, and hence duplication with 187 and 171 doesn't really matter. Plus Mandai Rd do not have that much demand itself.

  Bukit Panjang to Sengkang may still be faster than MRT (even with DTL2 in place), to some extent. Especially for Sengkang West.

  Originally posted by dupdup77:

  Hi mr AJQZC, for new bus service, I can safely say no in terms of faster than NEL. They will definitely need to make that service go certain parts of a few towns to capture some share of the residents before embarking on expressway and also go a few towns before reaching destination. Normally it takes an equivalent timing close to taking mrt. They will never give you direct from 1 estate express all the way to just another estate unless that bus service is express which means paying premium. By saying this, they may as well not provide this kind of bus service for normal fare service. Cheers. Thanks. 

  @array88: well, we do have some opinions against that. I guess it all depends on the places this route actually serve in between the two towns.

• AJQZC

  30 Dec 15, 10:00

  Anyway: (this is my 500th post already, yikes. )

  Suggested new weekday peak-hour service 978 (after BPJ ITH opens)

   

  • Bt Panjang ITH
  • Woodlands Rd
  • Stagmont Ring
  • CCK North 6
  • CCK Dr
  • CCK North 7
  • CCK Way
  • Sungei Kadut Loop
  • Sungei Kadut St 3
  • Sungei Kadut St 1
  • Sungei Kadut St 5
  • Sungei Kadut Dr
  • Sungei Kadut Loop
  • CCK Way
  • CCK North 7
  • CCK Dr
  • CCK North 6
  • Stagmont Ring
  • Woodlands Rd
  • Bt Panjang ITH

  To serve the poorly served regions in Sungei Kadut, passing by Yew Tee for alternative MRT transfer. Provided that there is space at the ITH.

  If demand necessitates, can introduce an off-peak variant to loop at Kranji Camp II.

   

• BusAnalayzer

  30 Dec 15, 10:13

  There should be new service introduced between Bukit Panjang and Sungei Kadut industrial estate. 

• SBS 9256 X

  30 Dec 15, 10:27

  Switch Svc 190 & Svc 972 terminating point:
  Svc 190 will loop at Bencoolent Street while Svc 972 will terminate at New Bridge Road Terminal

  Svc 300 should be a townlink service extending out to Bukit Panjang MRT. Route as follows:

  Choa Chu Kang Interchange, Choa Chu Kang Ave 4/Ave 3/Ave 1/Ave 2, Choa Chu Kang Way/Rd, Upp Bukit Timah Road, Petir Rd, Jelebu Rd, Bukit Panjang Rd, Choa Chu Kang Rd/Way, Choa Chu Kang Ave 3/Ave 4

   

• AJQZC

  30 Dec 15, 10:38

  Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:

  There should be new service introduced between Bukit Panjang and Sungei Kadut industrial estate. 

  By "should", do you mean, there is already such a service in planning, or there ought to be one?

  If there is a service in planning already, please give details.

  If there ought to be such a service (i.e. to cater to the demand or whatnot), please comment on my suggestion.

  Thanks 

• BusAnalayzer

  30 Dec 15, 11:00

  Originally posted by AJQZC:

  Do you mean, there is already such a service in planning, or there ought to be one?

  If there is a service in planning already, please give details.

  If there ought to be such a service, please comment on my suggestion.

  Thanks 

  No I think there should be.

• SBS 9256 X

  30 Dec 15, 14:49

  I think SBST should allow Svc 405 to run full day as Svc 975 is quite congested during Sundays night where NS boys booking into camp...

  Svc 405
  Boon Lay Interchange - Sungei Gedong Camp (Loop)
  Via
  Jurong West Ctrl 3, Jln Boon Lay, Jalan Bahar, Lim Chu Kang Rd, Old Lim Chu Kang Rd, Lor Rusuk, Lim Chu Kang Rd, Sungei Gedong Rd, Lim Chu Kang Rd, Jalan Bahar, Jln Boon Lay, Jurong West Ctrl 2/Ctrl 3

  Svc 405M
  Boon Lay Interchange - Old Choa Chu Kang/Lim Chu Kang Rd (Loop)
  Via
  Jurong West Ctrl 3, Jln Boon Lay, Jalan Bahar, Old Choa Chu Kang Rd, Lim Chu Kang Rd, Sungei Gedong Rd, Lim Chu Kang Rd, Lor Rusuk, Old Lim Chu Kang Rd, Lim Chu Kang Rd, Jln Bahar, Jln Boon Lay, Boon Lay Way/Jurong West Ctrl 2/Ctrl 3

  - Allowing Visitors to have accessibility to the cemetery besides depending on 172/975.

  - Ease the loading of 975 at Choa Chu Kang MRT during booking in on Sundays and booking out on either Fridays or Saturdays.

  Concurrenty, both services will be in operational. Svc 405M will end its service at 6pm whereas Svc 405 will continue operating until 11pm.

• mwhale7886

  30 Dec 15, 15:30

  Suggestion: Trunk Svc 116 > Feeder Svc 326 

  Service 116 shortened to loop at Serangoon North Ave 3/4 and converted to a feeder service.

  Yio Chu Kang Road to Serangoon sectors covered by 43/43M, 103, 70/70M.

  New added link between Serangoon North Ave 5 and Hougang Estate, Interchange and MRT.

  New bus stop at Serangoon North Ave 3 road end (near Blk 548)

        New Route:

  • Hougang Ctrl Int
  • Hougang Ctrl
  • Hougang Ave 4, Ave 9
  • Serangoon North Ave 5
  • Ang Mo Kio Ave 3
  • Serangoon North Ave 3 (u-turn)
  • Serangoon North Ave 4
  • Serangoon North Ave 5
  • Hougang Ave 9, Ave 4
  • Hougang Ctrl
  • Hougang Ctrl Int
  • 
    
• SBS3004X

  30 Dec 15, 16:10

  Originally posted by mwhale7886:

  Suggestion: Trunk Svc 116 > Feeder Svc 326 

  Service 116 shortened to loop at Serangoon North Ave 3/4 and converted to a feeder service.

  Yio Chu Kang Road to Serangoon sectors covered by 43/43M, 103, 70/70M.

  New added link between Serangoon North Ave 5 and Hougang Estate, Interchange and MRT.

  New bus stop at Serangoon North Ave 3 road end (near Blk 548)

        New Route:

  • Hougang Ctrl Int
  • Hougang Ctrl
  • Hougang Ave 4, Ave 9
  • Serangoon North Ave 5
  • Ang Mo Kio Ave 3
  • Serangoon North Ave 3 (u-turn)
  • Serangoon North Ave 4
  • Serangoon North Ave 5
  • Hougang Ave 9, Ave 4
  • Hougang Ctrl
  • Hougang Ctrl Int
  • 
    

  The current 116 is a waste of resources. But, how does the bus jump from Hougang Ave 4/9 to Ang Mo Kio Ave 3 from the current route?

• proudtobeme

  30 Dec 15, 16:13

  Originally posted by SBS3004X:

  The current 116 is a waste of resources. But, how does the bus jump from Hougang Ave 4/9 to Ang Mo Kio Ave 3 from the current route?

  it do 315 route to amk av 3 loop and back as per above.

• proudtobeme

  30 Dec 15, 16:14

  Originally posted by mwhale7886:

  Suggestion: Trunk Svc 116 > Feeder Svc 326 

  Service 116 shortened to loop at Serangoon North Ave 3/4 and converted to a feeder service.

  Yio Chu Kang Road to Serangoon sectors covered by 43/43M, 103, 70/70M.

  New added link between Serangoon North Ave 5 and Hougang Estate, Interchange and MRT.

  New bus stop at Serangoon North Ave 3 road end (near Blk 548)

        New Route:

  • Hougang Ctrl Int
  • Hougang Ctrl
  • Hougang Ave 4, Ave 9
  • Serangoon North Ave 5
  • Ang Mo Kio Ave 3
  • Serangoon North Ave 3 (u-turn)
  • Serangoon North Ave 4
  • Serangoon North Ave 5
  • Hougang Ave 9, Ave 4
  • Hougang Ctrl
  • Hougang Ctrl Int
  • 
    

  i think better to have serangoon int loop serangoon nth ave 5 than from hg. 

• SBS9252G

  30 Dec 15, 17:00

  Originally posted by SBS 9256 X:

  Switch Svc 190 & Svc 972 terminating point:
  Svc 190 will loop at Bencoolent Street while Svc 972 will terminate at New Bridge Road Terminal

  Svc 300 should be a townlink service extending out to Bukit Panjang MRT. Route as follows:

  Choa Chu Kang Interchange, Choa Chu Kang Ave 4/Ave 3/Ave 1/Ave 2, Choa Chu Kang Way/Rd, Upp Bukit Timah Road, Petir Rd, Jelebu Rd, Bukit Panjang Rd, Choa Chu Kang Rd/Way, Choa Chu Kang Ave 3/Ave 4

   

  I suppose it's already quite well linked from CCK - BPJ. LRT,67,983,190,975,979.
  So i suppose 300 should be the way it is now..

• Marvel68

  30 Dec 15, 18:31

  Service 108: Serangoon - Defu Ave 1 (Loop)

  
  

  Serangoon Int

  Upp Serangoon Rd

  Serangoon Ctrl

  Serangoon Ave 1

  Bartley Road

  Bartley Road East

  Hougang Ave 3

  Defu Ave 1 (New bus stops)

  Defu Lane 4

  Defu Lane 7 (New bus stops)

  Defu Ave 1 (New bus stops)

  Hougang Ave 3

  Bartley Road East

  Bartley Road

  Serangoon Ave 1

  Serangoon Ctrl 

  Upp Serangoon Rd

  Serangoon Int

  
  

  Pros: New connection to Defu industrial estate from Serangoon

           Complements 158 from Serangoon to Ave 1

  
  

  Cons: Limited catchment

             Low demand during off-peak hours and weekends

  
  

  Service 44: Clementi - Sunset Way (Loop)

  
  

  Clementi Int

  Clementi Ave 3

  Commonwealth Ave West

  Clementi Rd

  Sunset Way (New bus stops)

  Clementi Rd

  Commonwealth Ave West

  Clementi Int

  
  

  Pros: New connection between Clementi Mrt and Sunset estate

  
  

  Cons: Possibly low demand due to Sunset estate being mostly a private estate

  
  
• SBS9252G

  30 Dec 15, 18:36

  Originally posted by Marvel68:

  Service 108: Serangoon - Defu Ave 1 (Loop)

  
  

  Serangoon Int

  Upp Serangoon Rd

  Serangoon Ctrl

  Serangoon Ave 1

  Bartley Road

  Bartley Road East

  Hougang Ave 3

  Defu Ave 1 (New bus stops)

  Defu Lane 4

  Defu Lane 7 (New bus stops)

  Defu Ave 1 (New bus stops)

  Hougang Ave 3

  Bartley Road East

  Bartley Road

  Serangoon Ave 1

  Serangoon Ctrl 

  Upp Serangoon Rd

  Serangoon Int

  
  

  Pros: New connection to Defu industrial estate from Serangoon

           Complements 158 from Serangoon to Ave 1

  
  

  Cons: Limited catchment

             Low demand during off-peak hours and weekends

  
  

  Service 44: Clementi - Sunset Way (Loop)

  
  

  Clementi Int

  Clementi Ave 3

  Commonwealth Ave West

  Clementi Rd

  Sunset Way (New bus stops)

  Clementi Rd

  Commonwealth Ave West

  Clementi Int

  
  

  Pros: New connection between Clementi Mrt and Sunset estate

  
  

  Cons: Possibly low demand due to Sunset estate mostly being a private estate

  
  

  For 44, It's not like 317, it surely won't be introduced.

• mwhale7886

  30 Dec 15, 19:24

  Originally posted by SBS3004X:

  The current 116 is a waste of resources. But, how does the bus jump from Hougang Ave 4/9 to Ang Mo Kio Ave 3 from the current route?

  via Serangoon North Ave 5, currently only served by svc 315

• array88

  30 Dec 15, 21:26

  Originally posted by AJQZC:

  Anyway: (this is my 500th post already, yikes. )

  Suggested new weekday peak-hour service 978 (after BPJ ITH opens)

   

  • Bt Panjang ITH
  • Woodlands Rd
  • Stagmont Ring
  • CCK North 6
  • CCK Dr
  • CCK North 7
  • CCK Way
  • Sungei Kadut Loop
  • Sungei Kadut St 3
  • Sungei Kadut St 1
  • Sungei Kadut St 5
  • Sungei Kadut Dr
  • Sungei Kadut Loop
  • CCK Way
  • CCK North 7
  • CCK Dr
  • CCK North 6
  • Stagmont Ring
  • Woodlands Rd
  • Bt Panjang ITH

  To serve the poorly served regions in Sungei Kadut, passing by Yew Tee for alternative MRT transfer. Provided that there is space at the ITH.

  If demand necessitates, can introduce an off-peak variant to loop at Kranji Camp II.

   

  I agree there should be a service from Yew Tee to Sungei Kadut... This morning I saw massive crowds (70-80 pax at least) outside Yew Tee MRT waiting for private buses, and I guess they're heading to Sungei Kadut. Introducing a service will definitely have sufficient demand and ease the crowds.

• array88

  30 Dec 15, 21:30

  Originally posted by SBS 9256 X:

  Switch Svc 190 & Svc 972 terminating point:
  Svc 190 will loop at Bencoolent Street while Svc 972 will terminate at New Bridge Road Terminal

  Svc 300 should be a townlink service extending out to Bukit Panjang MRT. Route as follows:

  Choa Chu Kang Interchange, Choa Chu Kang Ave 4/Ave 3/Ave 1/Ave 2, Choa Chu Kang Way/Rd, Upp Bukit Timah Road, Petir Rd, Jelebu Rd, Bukit Panjang Rd, Choa Chu Kang Rd/Way, Choa Chu Kang Ave 3/Ave 4

   

  You're taking away a direct service for Choa Chu Kang residents to Chinatown... And they won't be very happy.