Route Suggestions (Part 6)

AJQZC

4 Jan 16, 16:29

Originally posted by SBS9252G:

149

Sengkang - Ayer Rajah Bus Park

Sengkang Square

Sengkang East Way

Punggol Rd

Compassvale Dr

Sengkang Central

Hougang Ave 6

Hougang Ave 8

Hougang Ave 2

AMK Ave 3

CTE

AYE

North BV Rd

One North Gateway

Ayer Rajah Cres

Given the few number of stops served at the Buona Vista / Ayer Rajah side, changing to NEL/CCL would be much more useful and direct.

Not to mention the winding route of AYE <--> CTE and subjection to delays.

AJQZC

4 Jan 16, 20:28

Splitting up 852:

Service 852: Sembawang - Bishan

Sembawang Vista
Sembawang Dr
Sembawang Way
Sembawang Cres
Sembawang Dr
Sembawang Ave
Sembawang Rd
Yishun Ave 7
Yishun Ave 2
Yishun Ctrl 1
Yishun St 61
Yishun Ring Rd
Yishun Ave 2
Yishun Ave 1
Sembawang Rd
Upp Thomson Rd
SLE
Lentor Ave
AMK Ave 6
AMK Ave 8
AMK Ave 3
AMK Ave 6
Marymount Rd
Sin Ming Ave
Sin Ming Dr
Shunfu Rd
Marymount Rd
Bishan St 21
Bishan St 11
Bishan St 13

Service 848E: Yio Chu Kang - Bt Batok

AMK Ave 8
AMK Ave 6
Marymount Rd
Marymount Lane
Upp Thomson Rd
Thomson Rd
Lornie Rd (express)
Adam Rd (express)
PIE
Upp Bt Timah Rd (return route: UBT Rd --> Jln Jurong Kechil)
Old Jurong Rd
Bt Batok East Ave 6
Bt Batok East Ave 3
Bt Batok Ctrl

Rationale:

-- 852 has terrible frequency, even though parts of its route face high demand. This splits the route up and manage both halves with different frequencies to cater to the different needs.
-- Route sections of 852 between Bt Batok and Marymount are already well managed by 74 and 157, and there are many alternatives along Dunearn / Bt Timah Rd with the opening of the DTL. Remaining demand from 852 is mostly long-distance from AMK Ave 6 / Marymount to Upp Bt Timah / Bt Batok. This sector is now made express (848E).
-- Northern end extended to Sembawang to improve connections.

Cons:

-- May increase strain on AMDEP.
-- Loading may not justify a new service, demand may still be low.
-- Possible waste of resources - other regions (Yishun East, Sengkang, Punggol) need buses more urgently.

AJQZC

5 Jan 16, 16:11

Suggestion: Service 118 amendment

Punggol Pl
Punggol Ctrl
Punggol Way
Sengkang East Rd
Compassvale St
Punggol Rd
TPE
(current route to CBP Term)

Rationale: A minor route extension to allow better transfers to Sengkang / Hougang at Punggol Rd bus stop. Also serves Compassvale St.

SBS9252G

5 Jan 16, 22:12

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SMB128B

5 Jan 16, 23:18

Originally posted by SBS9252G:

47

Boon Lay - Marina Centre

Jurong West Central 3

Jurong West Central 2

Boon Lay Way

Corporation Rd

Corporation Dr

Yung Ho Rd

Corporation Rd

AYE

Clementi Rd

Commonwealth Ave West

North BV Rd

Holland Rd

Napier Rd

Tanglin Rd

Orchard Rd

Bras Basah Rd

Raffles Blvd

Direct connection to Orchard, Marina from Taman Jurong.
Serves as an alternative from 174

There is already a svc 47.

SBS9252G

6 Jan 16, 12:37

My bad.

46

Boon Lay - Marina Centre

Jurong West Central 3
Jurong West Central 2
Boon Lay Way
Corporation Rd
Corporation Dr
Yung Ho Rd
Corporation Rd
AYE
Clementi Rd
Commonwealth Ave West
North BV Rd
Holland Rd
Napier Rd
Tanglin Rd
Orchard Rd
Bras Basah Rd
Raffles Blvd

Direct connection to Orchard, Marina from Taman Jurong.
Serves as an alternative from 174

BusAnalayzer

6 Jan 16, 13:21

Originally posted by SBS9252G:

My bad.

46

Boon Lay - Marina Centre

Jurong West Central 3

Jurong West Central 2

Boon Lay Way

Corporation Rd

Corporation Dr

Yung Ho Rd

Corporation Rd

AYE

Clementi Rd

Commonwealth Ave West

North BV Rd

Holland Rd

Napier Rd

Tanglin Rd

Orchard Rd

Bras Basah Rd

Raffles Blvd

Direct connection to Orchard, Marina from Taman Jurong.
Serves as an alternative from 174

extremely duplicative to sv 30 and other services along Holland road to Raffles.

SBS9252G

6 Jan 16, 14:35

Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:

extremely duplicative to sv 30 and other services along Holland road to Raffles.

Despite duplicative but it do serves different catchment areas. residents from Avenue 1 Blk 416,417,418,423,424,425 may take this service to Dover MRT as an alternative during peak hour

AJQZC

6 Jan 16, 14:58

Originally posted by SBS9252G:

Despite duplicative but it do serves different catchment areas. residents from Avenue 1 Blk 416,417,418,423,424,425 may take this service to Dover MRT as an alternative during peak hour

If it's just during peak hours, an AM peak-hour short trip would suffice. Don't have to introduce a new service all the way to the city centre, unless there's significant point-to-point demand. Not to mention there's already 14/106 to Orchard, and 154 to Taman Jurong & Boon Lay.

AJQZC

7 Jan 16, 21:12

Proposed future route extension to service 811, South Loop:

Yishun Ctrl
Yishun Ave 2
Yishun Ave 3
Yishun Ring Rd
Yishun Ave 4
Yishun St 81
Yishun Ave 1
Yishun St 52
Yishun St 51
Yishun Ave 4
Yishun Ring Rd
Yishun Ave 3
Yishun Ave 2
Yishun Ctrl

proudtobeme

8 Jan 16, 22:45

Originally posted by AJQZC:

Proposed future route extension to service 811, South Loop:

Yishun Ctrl

Yishun Ave 2

Yishun Ave 3

Yishun Ring Rd

Yishun Ave 4

Yishun St 81

Yishun Ave 1

Yishun St 52

Yishun St 51

Yishun Ave 4

Yishun Ring Rd

Yishun Ave 3

Yishun Ave 2

Yishun Ctrl

so long winding your route. never get implement.

AJQZC

9 Jan 16, 12:22

Originally posted by AJQZC:

Suggestion: Service 118 amendment

Punggol Pl

Punggol Ctrl

Punggol Way

Sengkang East Rd

Compassvale St

Punggol Rd

TPE

(current route to CBP Term)

Rationale: A minor route extension to allow better transfers to Sengkang / Hougang at Punggol Rd bus stop. Also serves Compassvale St.

Comments?

SBS 9256 X

9 Jan 16, 23:15

Originally posted by proudtobeme:

so long winding your route. never get implement.

The bus service already have a bad frequency... If get implemented that way, might as well have two seperate feeder service....

Service 811
Yishun Interchange - Sembawang Rd/Yishun Ave 1 (Loop)
via
Yishun Ave 9/6/7, Sembawang Rd, Yishun Ave 5/Ave 2/Ave 6/Ave 9, Yishun Ctrl, Yishun Ave 2/Ave 3, Yishun Ring Road, Yishun St 41,Yishun Ave 1/Ave 4, Yishun St 81, Yishun Ave 1/Ave 4, Yishun Ring Rd, Yishun Ave 3/Ave 2, Yishun Central

No change towards Chong Pang.. Skipping one bus stop along Ave 4, calling at 4 bus stops along Ring Road (1), St 41 (1), Ave 1 (Svc 117 bus stop; 2)

Svc 802
Yishun Interchange - Yishun St 81/51 (Loop)
Via
Yishun Ctrl 1, Yishun Ctrl, Yishun Ave 4, Yishun St 81, Yishun Ave 1, Yishun Ave 4, Yishun St 51, Yishun St 41, Yishun Ring Road, Yishun Ave 4, Yishun Ctrl, Yishun Ctrl 1

Bussyboy50

9 Jan 16, 23:19

Originally posted by AJQZC:

Comments?

Just rode on bus 118 recently, finally a direct bus to work from home, i think the current route is already good enough, and since there's this TPE Punggol Rd transfer bus stop maybe not neccesary to have it amend.

SG1080A

11 Jan 16, 15:13

Service 160M

Jurong Gateway Road
Jurong East Ctrl
Boon Lay Way
Jurong Town Hall Road
Bukit Batok Road
Choa Chu Kang Road
Woodlands Road
Senja Way
Senja Road
Bukit Panjang Ring Road
Bukit Panjang Road
Choa Chu Kang Road
Bukit Batok Road
Boon Lay Way
Jurong East Ctrl
Jurong Gateway Road

- Proposal to loop Service 160M at Senja LRT Station, increasing connectivity & faster alternative to Jurong East from Bukit Panjang.
- More transport alternatives from 180/160.

AJQZC

11 Jan 16, 15:56

Originally posted by SG1080A:

Service 160M

Jurong Gateway Road
Jurong East Ctrl
Boon Lay Way
Jurong Town Hall Road
Bukit Batok Road
Choa Chu Kang Road
Woodlands Road
Senja Way
Senja Road
Bukit Panjang Ring Road
Bukit Panjang Road
Choa Chu Kang Road
Bukit Batok Road
Boon Lay Way
Jurong East Ctrl
Jurong Gateway Road

- Proposal to loop Service 160M at Senja LRT Station, increasing connectivity & faster alternative to Jurong East from Bukit Panjang.
- More transport alternatives from 180/160.

Good idea to improve the frequency of 160. Though my version is slightly different:

Service 150: Jurong East Int - Senja Rd (Loop)

Jurong Gateway Rd
Boon Lay Way
Jurong East Ctrl
Bt Batok Ave 1
BB West Ave 6
BB West Ave 8
BB West Ave 3
BB Rd
CCK Rd
Upp Bt Timah Rd
Petir Rd
Jelebu Rd
Bt Panjang Ring Rd
Senja Rd
Senja Way
Woodlands Rd
CCK Rd
(loop back to Jurong East)

If demand necessitates, can amend/extend to serve Dairy Farm. Can also be amended to serve more of the upcoming Bt Batok West estates in the future when it is ready (along with new BB feeders).

SG1080A

11 Jan 16, 17:11

Originally posted by AJQZC:

Good idea to improve the frequency of 160. Though my version is slightly different:

Service 150: Jurong East Int - Senja Rd (Loop)

Jurong Gateway Rd

Boon Lay Way

Jurong East Ctrl

Bt Batok Ave 1

BB West Ave 6

BB West Ave 8

BB West Ave 3

BB Rd

CCK Rd

Upp Bt Timah Rd

Petir Rd

Jelebu Rd

Bt Panjang Ring Rd

Senja Rd

Senja Way

Woodlands Rd

CCK Rd

(loop back to Jurong East)

If demand necessitates, can amend/extend to serve Dairy Farm. Can also be amended to serve more of the upcoming Bt Batok West estates in the future when it is ready (along with new BB feeders).

Great idea, too.

23ispolo

12 Jan 16, 18:40

14M: Upper East Coast Ter > Bedok Int (Loop)

Upper East Coast Ter

Bedok Road

New Upper Changi Road

Bedok North Road

Bedok North Ave 3

Bedok North Street 1

Bedok Int (looping point)

(continue back in opposite direction)

Notes:

> Improves frequency of 14 between Bedok Road and Bedok Int, especially to/from Tanah Merah MRT during peak hours. Alternative to 14/45 during PM peak when commuters board at Tanah Merah to Bedok Road.

> Possibly about 3 A/P SDs, with 2 split buses during peak hours.

> Will share berth at Bedok Int with 14.

SBS6465E

12 Jan 16, 20:52

Originally posted by 23ispolo:

14M: Upper East Coast Ter > Bedok Int (Loop)

Upper East Coast Ter

Bedok Road

New Upper Changi Road

Bedok North Road

Bedok North Ave 3

Bedok North Street 1

Bedok Int (looping point)

(continue back in opposite direction)

Notes:

> Improves frequency of 14 between Bedok Road and Bedok Int, especially to/from Tanah Merah MRT during peak hours. Alternative to 14/45 during PM peak when commuters board at Tanah Merah to Bedok Road.

> Possibly about 3 A/P SDs, with 2 split buses during peak hours.

> Will share berth at Bedok Int with 14.

Good suggestion. Believe 14B served a similar sector a while back.

977

BPJ<>Joo Koon ITH

Petir/Jelebu Rd>BPJ Rd>CCK Rd>Teck Whye Av>CCK Av 1> CCK Av 3> Brickland Rd>Sungei Tengah Rd>Old CCK Rd>Jln Bahar>Nanyang Av>Lien Ying Chow Dr>PIE>Upp Jurong Rd>Benoi Rd

1. Reduces crowding on 975 by providing a direct connection between BPJ/Teck Whye and Old CCK by skipping CCK MRT

2. Enhances BPJ connection for CCK Av 1 and will reduce crowding on 172 by supplementing at CCK Av 1

3. Direct connection between BPJ & CCK to Cleantech/NTU/Joo Koon

carbikebus

12 Jan 16, 21:46

Maybe can try 978 BPJ-CGA via Marsiling/SLE/TPE?Once the concept model can be use for feeders,Kjdep/Amdep can use up to 14 A24 for this service?For a start 20 buses should be enough?Kjdep 11 A/P 4 SS and Amdep 3 A/P 2 SS?10 A24 for A/P and 4 for SS?858 can use 18 A24.

AJQZC

14 Jan 16, 00:39

Originally posted by carbikebus:

Maybe can try 978 BPJ-CGA via Marsiling/SLE/TPE?Once the concept model can be use for feeders,Kjdep/Amdep can use up to 14 A24 for this service?For a start 20 buses should be enough?Kjdep 11 A/P 4 SS and Amdep 3 A/P 2 SS?10 A24 for A/P and 4 for SS?858 can use 18 A24.

If you add up the distance ...

Assuming we go by something similar to 187 + 168 + 858.

187 from BPJ to Woodlands is about 10.5km.
168 from Woodlands to TPE bus stop is about 17.7km (858 and 969 are marginally longer this way).
858 from TPE bus stop to CGA T1 is about 14.3km.
Sum the total and double it -- that makes approximately 85.5km round-trip.
And that's only serving the bare minimum of stops at BPJ, Marsiling, Woodlands, TPE bus stop, CGA.

Is it worth introducing such a service? You have the DTL at BPJ and 858 at Woodlands after all.

SBS6465E

14 Jan 16, 09:54

Service 11 (Extension)

Sims Pl - Rhu Cross (Loop)

Sims Pl - Sims Dr - Sims Av - Aljunied Rd - Geylang Rd - Old Terminal Ln/Kallang Airport Way (Express) - Nicoll Highway - (Old route to Rhu Cross) - Lor 1 Geylang - Sims Av - Aljunied Rd - Sims Dr - Sims Pl.

1. New connection between Aljunied MRT & Sims Dr. Currently, 125 only provides one-way service to MRT

2. New connection between Sims Pl & Geylang Rd & SportsHub

3. Anticipated higher demand = better freq = better svc for Tg Rhu

jurongresident

16 Jan 16, 11:33

Originally posted by SBS6465E:

Good suggestion. Believe 14B served a similar sector a while back.

977

BPJ<>Joo Koon ITH

Petir/Jelebu Rd>BPJ Rd>CCK Rd>Teck Whye Av>CCK Av 1> CCK Av 3> Brickland Rd>Sungei Tengah Rd>Old CCK Rd>Jln Bahar>Nanyang Av>Lien Ying Chow Dr>PIE>Upp Jurong Rd>Benoi Rd

1. Reduces crowding on 975 by providing a direct connection between BPJ/Teck Whye and Old CCK by skipping CCK MRT

2. Enhances BPJ connection for CCK Av 1 and will reduce crowding on 172 by supplementing at CCK Av 1

3. Direct connection between BPJ & CCK to Cleantech/NTU/Joo Koon

In my opinion, I feel that Old Choa Chu Kang Road does not need another bus service, when there are already bus services 172 and 975.

This bus service can ply direct using the expressway.

carbikebus

16 Jan 16, 13:01

Originally posted by AJQZC:

If you add up the distance ...

Assuming we go by something similar to 187 + 168 + 858.

187 from BPJ to Woodlands is about 10.5km.

168 from Woodlands to TPE bus stop is about 17.7km (858 and 969 are marginally longer this way).

858 from TPE bus stop to CGA T1 is about 14.3km.

Sum the total and double it -- that makes approximately 85.5km round-trip.

And that's only serving the bare minimum of stops at BPJ, Marsiling, Woodlands, TPE bus stop, CGA.

Is it worth introducing such a service? You have the DTL at BPJ and 858 at Woodlands after all.

Majority of the distance is expressway,If LTA wanna people give up their personal transport they should introduce this kind of trunk svc,Not some mumbo jumbo less than 7kmh journey then call it trunk.

carbikebus

16 Jan 16, 13:03

Originally posted by jurongresident:

In my opinion, I feel that Old Choa Chu Kang Road does not need another bus service, when there are already bus services 172 and 975.

This bus service can ply direct using the expressway.

Nowadays got so many workers dormitory near the cemetries or isolate places.