Route Suggestions (Part 6)

• carbikebus

  21 Jan 16, 22:26

  Originally posted by TPS Timothy Mok:

  173 can become a loop service, thus looping at Hillview Avenue.

  Isnt 173 a loop service though it enter Clementi ITH?

• carbikebus

  21 Jan 16, 22:27

  Originally posted by SBS6465E:

  164 (Ang Mo Kio <> Bukit Panjang)

  AMK INT> AMK Av 8 > Bishan Rd > Braddell Rd > Lornie Road > PIE/BKE (Express) > BPJ Rd > Pending Rd > Petir Rd >  Jelebu Rd > BPJ ITH

  1. New direct connection between Bishan/AMK and BPJ/Pending, as well as to MINDEF. Commuters can leverage on this connection by connecting onto other services at Bishan such as CCL. Will also be popular with students studying in RI & CHS

  2. LRT transfer available at Pending to serve other parts of BPJ most efficiently. 

  3. However, given traffic situations along PIE/BKE this route may not be most ideal. 

   Total route length - 16.4 km/16.4 km D1/D2

  Average frequency - 12 to 15 mins

  Proposed fleet - 13 SDs

   At the rate things are going with 68 & 76, I doubt the Joo Chiat area or Kembangan will receive new services, sigh, so here I go again

  46 (Eunos <> Jalan Kembangan - LOOP) 

  Eunos Int > Sims Av > Still Rd > Koon Seng Rd > Dunman Rd> Haig Rd > Amber Rd > Marine Parade Rd > Siglap Rd > Changi Rd > Jalan Kembangan (Loop) > Frankel Av > East Coast Rd > Siglap Rd (Same route back to Eunos Int)

  1. New connection for Haig Rd & Koon Seng Rd with Eunos MRT & Parkway Parade. 

  2. New connection between Siglap/Frankel/East Coast Rd with Marine Parade Rd

  3. New connection between Kembangan MRT and Marine Parade Rd 

  4. Enhanced connectivity between Kembangan MRT and Frankel Av. Now 42 only provides one-way connection to Kembangan MRT. 

  Total route length - 17.2 km

  Average frequency - 10 to 17 mins

  Proposed fleet - 7 SDs

  I believe 164 will be used for Sengkang once the extension is ready.

• azharjj

  22 Jan 16, 18:36

  Originally posted by Bussyboy50:

  By then should be Tower Transit already, no?

  oh ya haha

  cant put the operator name yet but most likely TT will operate

• Bussyboy50

  22 Jan 16, 21:15

  Originally posted by azharjj:

  oh ya haha

  cant put the operator name yet but most likely TT will operate

  given the case, bukit batok interchange services should be full TT by then. (minus 61 and 852) 

• Jessicapoul16

  22 Jan 16, 21:20

  Any recommandation

• SBS 9256 X

  22 Jan 16, 23:38

  Svc 952
  Woodlands Regional Interchange - Sembawang Interchange
  Via
  Woodlands Ave 2
  Woodlands Ave 9
  Woodlands Ave 4
  Woodlands Ave 7
  Gambas Ave
  Sembawang Ave
  Canberra Rd
  Sembawang Way
  Sembawang Dr

• SBS6465E

  23 Jan 16, 12:41

  Sims Place area is really quite poorly served I feel. There are very few connections to nearby amenities.

  I would suggest extending 140 up to Sims Place and thus follow 20's old route. This would provide connectivity to Kallang Swimming Complex, Kolam Ayer CC,  Geylang Bahru Market, Upper Boon Keng Market etc. Only problem is that this will duplicate 64 to some extent as these destinations can be reached by walking from Bendemeer Rd. However, as Bendemeer is a one-way street, 64 really only provides a one-way connection. Walking out to Serangoon road is very far. 

  Of course, as has been discussed in LTA BSEP Part 4, truncating 76 at Sims Pl would also create a connection to Geylang Rd/Paya Lebar. 

  I reiterate my extension of 11 up to Sims Pl.

  Other than that, I would also propose this service. 

  Service 126 (Sims Pl <> Eunos)

  Sims Pl Ter > Sims Dr > Aljunied Rd > Lor 22 Geylang > Guillemard Rd > Cassia Link > Old Airport Rd > Haig Rd > Amber Rd > Marine Parade Rd > Siglap Rd > Frankel Av > Changi Rd > Jln Turi > Eunos Int

  1. Two-way service between Sims Pl estate and Aljunied MRT. Right now 125 only provides one-way service. 

  2. Connection between Sims Pl and amenities in Guillemard (i.e. Singapore Badminton Hall, Kong Hwa Sch, Mountbatten CC) , Old Airport Rd (Old Airport Rd Food Centre, Dakota MRT)

  3. Connection between Sims Pl and amenities at Marine Parade/Katong. Plus, enhances connection to Parkway Parade from Dakota MRT which is served by 31 only. 

  4. Serves the full stretch of Marine Parade Rd to connect all schools, and provides a new connection to Changi Rd & Frankel Av. 

  Total route length - 11.4 km

  The other alternative is Sims Pl Ter > Geylang East Central > Paya Lebar Rd > Tanjong Katong Rd > Marine Parade Rd (Continue with same route to Eunos)

  1. Connect Sims Pl to ammenities at Geylang East Central such as Geylang East Library and Geylang Swimming Complex

  2. Connection from Geylang East Central to Marine Parade

  However, this would remove the connection between Sims Pl and Aljunied MRT which I feel is much more pressing. 

• jurongresident

  23 Jan 16, 13:56

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• carbikebus

  23 Jan 16, 16:42

  Originally posted by SBS 9256 X:

  Svc 952
  Woodlands Regional Interchange - Sembawang Interchange
  Via
  Woodlands Ave 2
  Woodlands Ave 9
  Woodlands Ave 4
  Woodlands Ave 7
  Gambas Ave
  Sembawang Ave
  Canberra Rd
  Sembawang Way
  Sembawang Dr

  Might as well make 962 terminate at Sembawang and introduce one feeder from SBW to Admiralty Link

• SBS9252G

  24 Jan 16, 10:16

  171

  Sembawang - Buona Vista

  • Sembawang Vista
  • Sembawang Dr
  • Sembawang Way
  • Canberra Link
  • Yishun Ave 2
  • Yishun Ave 3
  • Sembawang Rd
  • Mandai Ave
  • Mandai Rd
  • BKE
  • Bukit Panjang Rd
  • Pending Rd
  • Petir Rd
  • Jelebu Rd
  • Bukit Panjang Rd
  • Upp Bt Timah Rd
  • Jalan Anak Bukit 
  • Clementi Rd
  • Ulu Pandan Rd
  • Holland Rd
  • Holland Ave
  • Holland Dr

  67 remain untouched -- Remain a link from the Little India side to Beauty world (Private estates)

  961 remain untouched -- Still catchment on Chinatown side to Bkt Merah

• dupdup77

  24 Jan 16, 11:13

  Originally posted by SBS9252G:

  171

  Sembawang - Buona Vista

  • Sembawang Vista
  • Sembawang Dr
  • Sembawang Way
  • Canberra Link
  • Yishun Ave 2
  • Yishun Ave 3
  • Sembawang Rd
  • Mandai Ave
  • Mandai Rd
  • BKE
  • Bukit Panjang Rd
  • Pending Rd
  • Petir Rd
  • Jelebu Rd
  • Bukit Panjang Rd
  • Upp Bt Timah Rd
  • Jalan Anak Bukit 
  • Clementi Rd
  • Ulu Pandan Rd
  • Holland Rd
  • Holland Ave
  • Holland Dr

  67 remain untouched -- Remain a link from the Little India side to Beauty world (Private estates)

  961 remain untouched -- Still catchment on Chinatown side to Bkt Merah

  Hi mr SBS9252G, Bukit panjang to holland portion duplicates smrt 75. Cheers. Thanks.

• SBS9252G

  24 Jan 16, 12:18

  Originally posted by dupdup77:

  Hi mr SBS9252G, Bukit panjang to holland portion duplicates smrt 75. Cheers. Thanks.

  Yes, didn't really consider that pt. 
  

• iveco

  25 Jan 16, 00:54

  Originally posted by SBS9252G:

  Yes, didn't really consider that pt.

  Instead of Ulu Pandan and Holland Rds, use Commonwealth Ave West better. Can relieve 74 between Dover and NP.

• AJQZC

  25 Jan 16, 12:40

  Repost with amendments, considering the popularity of the Clementi Rd -- Dover MRT link:

  ======================

  Service 184C: Bt Panjang - Dover MRT station (loop)

  A variant of the service to enhance links from Bt Panjang to NP, SP and NUS-Utown. Allows for convenient transfers at Beauty World and Dover MRT stations. 

  • Bt Panjang Bus Park
  • Woodlands Rd
  • Bt Panjang Rd
  • Pending Rd
  • Petir Rd
  • Cashew Rd
  • Upp Bt Timah Rd  *(express between Rail Mall and Southaven II. Turns right and stops at Beauty World Plaza.)
  • Jln Jurong Kechil
  • Jln Anak Bukit
  • Clementi Rd  *(partial express)
  • Dover Rd
  • Dover Ave
  • Commonwealth Ave West
  • Clementi Rd *(partial express)
  •  
  • (loop back to Bt Panjang)
• jurongresident

  25 Jan 16, 21:36

  was drawing on maps, when suddenly I realise I may have found the ultimate solution to improve the feeder bus routes in Jurong West Extension town.

  I know I ever said before that I had found the best, but I feel that this is even better.

  The whole idea is to re-route 242 to become like Sengkang's 372, while re-route 243G/W to become like Punggol's 382G/W.

   

  242: Central 3 > Street 64 > Avenue 4 > Street 72 > Avenue 5 > Pioneer Road North > Street 63 > Street 65 > Street 62 > Street 61 > Street 63 > Pioneer Road North > Avenue 5 > Street 72 > Avenue 4 > Street 64 > Central 3

  243G: Central 3 > Street 64 > Central 1 > Jalan Boon Lay > Avenue 4 > Street 75 > Street 82 > Street 81 > Street 71 > Street 61 > Street 62 > Street 64 > Central 3

  243W: reverse direction of 243G.

  

  The new length of 242 and 243G/W is only around 17.48 km to 17.98km, much shorter than the route suggestion I made previously. If implemented, this is only up to 2km longer than the current length of 242 and 243G/W.

  Yet, it would accept so many people's requests and enhance so many bus connections.

  The re-routed 242 would encourage people to use Pioneer MRT Station as an alternative to Boon Lay MRT Station, while enhance the bus connection between Jurong West Neighbourhood 7 and Boon Lay MRT Station.

  The re-routed 243G/W would enhance (or make no difference on) the bus connection between Boon Lay MRT Station and Jurong West Neighbourhood 8, as it skips Pioneer Road North and uses Jurong West Street 71 to go directly to Jurong West Street 81. Although it would be a longer ride to/from Jurong West Street 75, most of the people who take 243G/W and 181 at Jurong West Street 75 actually stay along Jurong West Street 72... so, it's okay. in fact, it would make things right, cuz right now a lot of people at Street 72 walk long distance to Street 75 to take 243 and 181, just because 242 takes a longer route to Boon Lay MRT Station... by right, it's majority wins.... so, why not let 242 use the shorter route instead? :)

   

  Meanwhile, 258 can be re-routed like this:

  258 (to Joo Koon): Central 3 > Street 64 > Street 75 > Street 82 > Street 81 > Avenue 5 > Pioneer Road North > Avenue 4 > Street 61 > Street 63 > Pioneer Road North > Upper Jurong Road > Benoi Road > Joo Koon Circle

  258 (to Boon Lay): reverse direction of 258 (to Joo Koon)

• SMB128B

  26 Jan 16, 14:44

  Because we don't think relying on hub-and-spoke only is a good thing.

  Express 503

  Punggol Int - Joo Koon Int

  Link: 

  https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=za_vYfJu2hPI.kD5EIeYZ6myU&usp=sharing

  Route is symmetrical. As such, only outbound route is shown on map. 

  Fleet: 9 DDs, 5 SDs

  **Notes**

  - On PIE, buses will stop at Trellis Towers.

• SBS 9256 X

  26 Jan 16, 15:53

  Service 152
  Sengkang Interchange - Bukit Panjang Interchange
  Via
  Compassvale Rd/St
  Anchorvale St/Rd
  Sengkang East/West Way
  Jalan Kayu
  TPE/SLE
  Lentor Ave
  Yishun Ave 2
  Canberra Link
  Sembawang Way
  Woodlands Ave 7/Ave 2/Ave 5/Ave 3
  Woodlands Rd
  Upp Bukit Timah Rd
  Petir Rd/Jelebu Rd/Bukit Panjang Rd (Terminate)

  Return Journey:
  Upp Bukit TImah Rd (Bukit Panjang MRT Bus Stop)
  Petir Rd/Jelebu Rd/Bukit Panjang Rd
  Woodlands Rd
  Woodlands Ave 3/Ave 5/Ave 2/Ave 7
  Sembawang Way
  Canberra Link
  Yishun Ave 2
  Lentor Ave
  SLE/TPE
  Jalan Kayu
  Sengkang West/East Way
  Anchorvale Rd/St
  Compassvale St/Rd

• jurongresident

  26 Jan 16, 21:04

  991
  between Bukit Batok Bus Interchange and Tuas Bus Terminal
  Length = around 21.5 km in one direction
  Travel time = around 40 minutes to 80 minutes

  1. Bukit Batok Bus Interchange
  2. Bukit Batok Central
  3. Bukit Batok Avenue 1
  4. Bukit Batok West Avenue 6
  5. Bukit Batok West Avenue 8
  6. Bukit Batok West Avenue 3
  7. Bukit Batok Road
  8. Pan Island Expressway
  9. Jurong West Avenue 2
  10. Jurong West Avenue 4
  11. Jurong West Street 61
  12. Jurong West Street 63
  13. Pioneer Road North
  14. Pioneer Circus
  15. Pioneer Road
  16. Tuas West Drive
  17. Tuas Bus Terminal

  Same route in reverse direction, except in reverse order.

• AJQZC

  28 Jan 16, 20:10

  Originally posted by SBS 9256 X:

  Service 152
  Sengkang Interchange - Bukit Panjang Interchange
  Via
  Compassvale Rd/St
  Anchorvale St/Rd
  Sengkang East/West Way
  Jalan Kayu
  TPE/SLE
  Lentor Ave
  Yishun Ave 2
  Canberra Link
  Sembawang Way
  Woodlands Ave 7/Ave 2/Ave 5/Ave 3
  Woodlands Rd
  Upp Bukit Timah Rd
  Petir Rd/Jelebu Rd/Bukit Panjang Rd (Terminate)

  Return Journey:
  Upp Bukit TImah Rd (Bukit Panjang MRT Bus Stop)
  Petir Rd/Jelebu Rd/Bukit Panjang Rd
  Woodlands Rd
  Woodlands Ave 3/Ave 5/Ave 2/Ave 7
  Sembawang Way
  Canberra Link
  Yishun Ave 2
  Lentor Ave
  SLE/TPE
  Jalan Kayu
  Sengkang West/East Way
  Anchorvale Rd/St
  Compassvale St/Rd

  Nope. The detour to the north makes it way too long, and there are alternative services serving the separate sectors already (187/963, 858, 85/965). If I were travelling between Bt Panjang and Sengkang, I'd rather take the MRT than this service.

• AJQZC

  28 Jan 16, 20:15

  Originally posted by jurongresident:

  Express bus service 517

  Boon Lay - Punggol

  Length = around 31km

  Travel Time = at least 45 minutes

  1. Boon Lay Bus Interchange
  2. Jurong West Central 3
  3. Jurong West Central 2
  4. Boon Lay Way
  5. Jurong Town Hall Road
  6. Bukit Batok Road
  7. Bukit Batok West Avenue 3
  8. Bukit Batok Central
  9. Bukit Batok East Avenue 3
  10. Bukit Batok East Avenue 6
  11. Old Jurong Road
  12. Upper Bukit Timah Road
  13. Jalan Anak Bukit
  14. Pan Island Expressway
  15. Adam Road
  16. Lornie Road
  17. Thomson Road
  18. Marymount Lane
  19. Marymount Road
  20. Ang Mo Kio Avenue 6
  21. Ang Mo Kio Avenue 5
  22. Buangkok Green
  23. Sengkang East Road
  24. Punggol Way
  25. Punggol Field
  26. Punggol Place
  27. Punggol Bus Interchange

  Amenities:

  • - Retail: Waterway Point Shopping Centre
  • - School: Punggol Learning Corridor (future)
  • - Work: Ang Mo Kio Tech Park
  • - School: ITE College Central
  • - School: Nanyang Polytechnic
  • - School: Anderson Junior College
  • - Play: Bishan - Ang Mo Kio Park
  • - Play: MacRitchie Reservoir Park
  • - Life: Church of Saint Mary Of The Angels
  • - School: Eden School
  • - School: Millennia Institute
  • - School: Canadian International School
  • - Retail: Jurong Point Shopping Centre

   

  Originally posted by SMB128B:

  Because we don't think relying on hub-and-spoke only is a good thing.

  Express 503

  Punggol Int - Joo Koon Int

  Link: 

  https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=za_vYfJu2hPI.kD5EIeYZ6myU&usp=sharing

  Route is symmetrical. As such, only outbound route is shown on map. 

  Fleet: 9 DDs, 5 SDs

  **Notes**

  - On PIE, buses will stop at Trellis Towers.

  No offense, but what's with this sudden re-interest in PL-style cross-island routes?

  (Note to jurongresident: refer to pages 27-32 of this thread)

• jurongresident

  28 Jan 16, 20:38

  Originally posted by AJQZC:

  No offense, but what's with this sudden re-interest in PL-style cross-island routes?

  PL = Paya Lebar?

  or

  PL = Public Library?

  or

  PL = Physics Laboratory?

  or

  PL = Premier League?

  or

  PL = Peroneus Longus?

  or

  PL = President's Lounge?

  or

  PL = Punch Line?

  or

  PL = Path Light?

  or

  PL = Pepper Lunch?

  or

  PL = Programming Language?

  or

  PL = Play List?

  or

  PL = Price Lock?

  or

  PL = Page Layout?

  or

  PL = Paid Leave?

  or

  PL = Private Life?

• SMB128B

  28 Jan 16, 20:54

  Originally posted by AJQZC:

   

  No offense, but what's with this sudden re-interest in PL-style cross-island routes?

  (Note to jurongresident: refer to pages 27-32 of this thread)

  Read my words in red.

• AJQZC

  28 Jan 16, 21:22

  Random futuristic suggestion:

  Service 122 extension, version 2

  • New Bridge Rd Term
  • (current route to Margaret Dr)
  • 
    
  • Queensway   (same direction on return route)
    
  • Commonwealth Dr   (same direction on return route)
  • Commonwealth Ave   (same direction on return route)
  • Queensway
  • Portsdown Ave
  • one-north Ave
  • Stars Ave
  • Ayer Rajah Ave
  • North Buona Vista Rd
  • AYE
  • Clementi Rd
  • Kent Ridge Term
    
• jurongresident

  28 Jan 16, 21:27

  Hey, how about my suggestion on route 991 above?
• Path Lights

  30 Jan 16, 09:17

  Express 404: Changi Airport Bus Terminal - Larkin Bus Terminal (loop), via Tuas Second Link.