Anyone can suggest a good routing without much duplication?My management friend wanna do analyse before suggest to LTA.
1 Changi Village Ter to Punggol Int,Prefer to ply Loyang Way(Beside Lydep).
44 Punggol Int to Eunos Int
68 Punggol Int to Tampines
137 Punggol to Chai Chee
Thank You in advance.
you mean setting up the old Chai Chee ter?
Originally posted by SMB1368T:you mean setting up the old Chai Chee ter?
Loop at Chai Chee
Originally posted by carbikebus:Anyone can suggest a good routing without much duplication?My management friend wanna do analyse before suggest to LTA.
1 Changi Village Ter to Punggol Int,Prefer to ply Loyang Way(Beside Lydep).
44 Punggol Int to Eunos Int
68 Punggol Int to Tampines
137 Punggol to Chai Chee
Thank You in advance.
This is an amateur routing. Express along KPE and Bartley Rd East.
137: Punggol Int - Chai Chee (loop)
Originally posted by carbikebus:Anyone can suggest a good routing without much duplication?My management friend wanna do analyse before suggest to LTA.
1 Changi Village Ter to Punggol Int,Prefer to ply Loyang Way(Beside Lydep).
44 Punggol Int to Eunos Int
68 Punggol Int to Tampines
137 Punggol to Chai Chee
Thank You in advance.
Why all from Punggol? Punggol has had its recent share of trunk services.
1: Changi Village Ter – Punggol Int
Changi Village Rd
Loyang Ave
Loyang Way (express) (Junction next to Hitachi)
Loyang Way
Pasir Ris Dr 3 (3 upcoming condos)
Pasir Ris Ctrl
Pasir Ris Dr 1
Pasir Ris St 52 (controversial)
Pasir Ris Dr 3
Pasir Ris Dr 12
TPE
Punggol Way
Punggol Ctrl
Punggol Pl
Or
Changi Village Rd
...
Pasir Ris Dr 3
Future road
Pasir Ris Coast Industrial Park 6
Punggol Semi-Expressway
Punggol East
Punggol Ctrl
Punggol Pl
Changi Village Rd
...
Pasir Ris Dr 3
Pasir Ris Dr 12
Pasir Ris Industrial Dr 1 (w/ extension)
Punggol Ctrl (extension)
Punggol Ctrl
Punggol Pl
Originally posted by TIB987K:1: Changi Village Ter – Punggol Int
Changi Village Rd
Loyang Ave
Loyang Way (express) (Junction next to Hitachi)
Loyang Way
Pasir Ris Dr 3 (3 upcoming condos)
Pasir Ris Ctrl
Pasir Ris Dr 1
Pasir Ris St 52 (controversial)
Pasir Ris Dr 3
Pasir Ris Dr 12
TPE
Punggol Way
Punggol Ctrl
Punggol Pl
Future plans
Changi Village Rd
...
Pasir Ris Dr 3
Future road
Pasir Ris Coast Industrial Park 6
Punggol Semi-Expressway
Punggol East
Punggol Ctrl
Punggol Plor
Changi Village Rd
...
Pasir Ris Dr 3
Pasir Ris Dr 12
Pasir Ris Industrial Dr 1 (w/ extension)
Punggol Ctrl (extension)
Punggol Ctrl
Punggol Pl
could be for Pasir Ris Coastal Industrial Park similar to svc 6
Changi Village?
Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:Why all from Punggol? Punggol has had its recent share of trunk services.
Its because they knew that Punggol get an expansion.
Originally posted by TIB987K:1: Changi Village Ter – Punggol Int
Changi Village Rd
Loyang Ave
Loyang Way (express) (Junction next to Hitachi)
Loyang Way
Pasir Ris Dr 3 (3 upcoming condos)
Pasir Ris Ctrl
Pasir Ris Dr 1
Pasir Ris St 52 (controversial)
Pasir Ris Dr 3
Pasir Ris Dr 12
TPE
Punggol Way
Punggol Ctrl
Punggol Pl
Future plans
Changi Village Rd
...
Pasir Ris Dr 3
Future road
Pasir Ris Coast Industrial Park 6
Punggol Semi-Expressway
Punggol East
Punggol Ctrl
Punggol Plor
Changi Village Rd
...
Pasir Ris Dr 3
Pasir Ris Dr 12
Pasir Ris Industrial Dr 1 (w/ extension)
Punggol Ctrl (extension)
Punggol Ctrl
Punggol Pl
The purpose to go Loyang Way is to serve the two bus stops and probably another one after the Loyang depot traffic lights and not to express.
44: Punggol - Eunos
via
Punggol Pl, Way
TPE
Jalan Kayu
Sengkang West Ave, Rd
Yio Chu Kang Rd, Link
Serangoon Central
Upp S'goon Rd
Upp Paya Lebar Rd
Lor Ah Soo
Hougang Ave 3
Airport Rd
Ubi Rd 2, Ave 3, Rd 1, Ave 1, Ave 2
Eunos Link
Jln Eunos
Originally posted by carbikebus:The purpose to go Loyang Way is to serve the two bus stops and probably another one after the Loyang depot traffic lights and not to express.
I don't think you understand the route. From Loyang Ave, turn right which is Loyang Way (no bus stops served as there's no bus stops which is why it's labelled as express ...) and then turn left to Loyang Way towards Pasir Ris Dr 3 where Loyang Depot will be served as well as two pair of bus stops along the road.
Originally posted by TIB987K:1: Changi Village Ter – Punggol Int
Changi Village Rd
Loyang Ave
Loyang Way (express) (Junction next to Hitachi)
Loyang Way
Pasir Ris Dr 3 (3 upcoming condos)
Pasir Ris Ctrl
Pasir Ris Dr 1
Pasir Ris St 52 (controversial)
Pasir Ris Dr 3
Pasir Ris Dr 12
TPE
Punggol Way
Punggol Ctrl
Punggol Pl
Or
Changi Village Rd
...
Pasir Ris Dr 3
Future road
Pasir Ris Coast Industrial Park 6
Punggol Semi-Expressway
Punggol East
Punggol Ctrl
Punggol PlChangi Village Rd
...
Pasir Ris Dr 3
Pasir Ris Dr 12
Pasir Ris Industrial Dr 1 (w/ extension)
Punggol Ctrl (extension)
Punggol Ctrl
Punggol Pl
Hi mr TIB987K, though route 1 is quite different from sbs 3, its objectives may have overlapped with sbs 3. Nonetheless, good route. Cheers. Thanks.
Originally posted by TIB987K:I don't think you understand the route. From Loyang Ave, turn right which is Loyang Way (no bus stops served as there's no bus stops which is why it's labelled as express ...) and then turn left to Loyang Way towards Pasir Ris Dr 3 where Loyang Depot will be served as well as two pair of bus stops along the road.
I know la bro,Thats why its so confusing when you put express.
Now we seem to forget Tampines St 92 where the old svc 68 used to loop.
Originally posted by Sbs6750E:FYI,
Loyang Way turn left to LYDEP is called Pasir Ris Dr 2. Go straight is Loyang Pt liao.
The bus stop outside Loyang Point is Dr 2 where svc 109 serve..From outside Loyang depot Loyang Way turn left is Dr 3.The shell stn where svc 5 go is New Loyang Link.
Currently, there is no bus connection between Kaki Bukit Avenue 1 and Eunos Bus Interchange. Meanwhile, the Downtown Line Kaki Bukit station opens next year.
For the above two reasons, I would like to suggest a new bus route.
Bus route 152
The length of this route is 9.62 kilometres and the estimated travel time of this route is 49 minutes.
For this bus service, I recommend using five single decker buses on around thirteen minutes frequency.
51% of this route duplicates route 15, and 60% of it duplicates route 60 - similar to new route 308 where 67% of that new route duplicates route 172.
Nonetheless, 40% of this route is new.
Thank you for taking the time to read this post.
That was (almost) how the old Eunos feeder (385) used to run actually. However, I recommend that this route is numbered as 60M since it basically duplicates 60 to Eunos
Splitting of sv 14 & merging with 111
14: Tampines Interchange <> Ghim Moh Terminal
146: Clementi Interchange <> Queens St Terminal
14.
Tampines Interchange
Tampines Ave 5
Tampines Ave 1
Bedok Reservoir Road
Bedok North Ave 3
Bedok North Road
continues current route to Orchard
Orchard MRT
continues sv 111 route to Ghim Moh Terminal.
* Connects DTL3 (Bedok Reservoir, Tampines West) to Bedok North Road, Tanah Merah, UEC.
* Sv 111 will be removed, substituted by new sv 14, providing connection for Tanglin/Queenstown new estate to Nicoll Highway / EC.
* 222 will continue to serve people between Bedok Interchange and Bedok North Road
146
Clementi Interchange
current route Bras Basah Road
Victoria St
Bugis MRT
Rochor Road
Queens St Terminal
* Still maintains all connections.
* Better reliability giving the super long current sv 14.
Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:Splitting of sv 14 & merging with 111
14: Tampines Interchange <> Ghim Moh Terminal
146: Clementi Interchange <> Queens St Terminal
14.
Tampines Interchange
Tampines Ave 5
Tampines Ave 1
Bedok Reservoir Road
Bedok North Ave 3
Bedok North Road
continues current route to Orchard
Orchard MRT
continues sv 111 route to Ghim Moh Terminal.
* Connects DTL3 (Bedok Reservoir, Tampines West) to Bedok North Road, Tanah Merah, UEC.
* Sv 111 will be removed, substituted by new sv 14, providing connection for Tanglin/Queenstown new estate to Nicoll Highway / EC.
* 222 will continue to serve people between Bedok Interchange and Bedok North Road
146
Clementi Interchange
current route Bras Basah Road
Victoria St
Bugis MRT
Rochor Road
Queens St Terminal
* Still maintains all connections.
* Better reliability giving the super long current sv 14.
Better to reuse the service number 111 for the eastern stretch, seeing that 111's route is largely preserved. Then it will make more sense to see that 111 is extended along 14's route to Bedok North Rd, and further to Tampines, while 14 is cut to Queen St.
Do also consider that the Tampines - Ghim Moh route would still be 30 km long, not much better than the current route of 14.
Either 18 or 69 would now have to be modified to start from Bedok and loop at Tampines instead.
SBS Transit 68
Pasir Ris Drive 3
Pasir Ris Central
Pasir Ris Drive 8
Tampines Avenue 12
Tampines Avenue 9
Tampines Avenue 7
Tampines Central 7
Tampines Avenue 6
Tampines Avenue 9
Tampines Avenue 10
Tampines Avenue 5
Tampines Avenue 8
Tampines Avenue 3
Tampines Avenue 4
Bedok Reservoir Road
Bedok North Avenue 3
Bedok North Street 1
Chai Chee Street
Chai Chee Drive
New Upper Changi Road
Chai Chee Road
Chai Chee Street
(and return back to the normal routing)
- to bypass Tampines MRT and Bedok MRT.
- to provide connectivity to Tampines West MRT & Bedok Reservoir MRT.
Originally posted by AJQZC:Better to reuse the service number 111 for the eastern stretch, seeing that 111's route is largely preserved. Then it will make more sense to see that 111 is extended along 14's route to Bedok North Rd, and further to Tampines, while 14 is cut to Queen St.
Do also consider that the Tampines - Ghim Moh route would still be 30 km long, not much better than the current route of 14.
Either 18 or 69 would now have to be modified to start from Bedok and loop at Tampines instead.
However you split sv 14, it will still result in a long route. sv 14 will have to do the Orchard stretch at both ends. You cannot make it to loop as that would make it even more disastrous than today.
Hence, you need it to terminate somewhere closer to Orchard. What options are there?
- Bukit Merah Interchange (closest)
- Ghim Moh/Bunoa Vista (a little further away)
Makes perfect sense to merge with 111 given that there is route parallelism all the way from Stamford/Suntec. Also 111 can be preserved for NEL in future.
Originally posted by TPS Timothy Mok:SBS Transit 68
Pasir Ris Drive 3
Pasir Ris Central
Pasir Ris Drive 8
Tampines Avenue 12
Tampines Avenue 9
Tampines Avenue 7
Tampines Central 7
Tampines Avenue 6
Tampines Avenue 9
Tampines Avenue 10
Tampines Avenue 5
Tampines Avenue 8
Tampines Avenue 3
Tampines Avenue 4
Bedok Reservoir Road
Bedok North Avenue 3
Bedok North Street 1
Chai Chee Street
Chai Chee Drive
New Upper Changi Road
Chai Chee Road
Chai Chee Street
(and return back to the normal routing)
- to bypass Tampines MRT and Bedok MRT.
- to provide connectivity to Tampines West MRT & Bedok Reservoir MRT.
This route is good. It provides connections to Tampines West and Tampines East stations on the Downtown Line which are currently not available.
At the same time, it provides the East-West intra-town connection in parts of Tampines that are not covered by route 293.
However, the length of the route is around 30 km, which may be too long for a bus route.
To shorten the route, I would like to recommend that the route cut short at Tampines Avenue 4. The route from Tampines Avenue 8 can be Ave 1 - Ave 4 - Ave 3 - St 81 - Ave 3 - Ave 4 - Ave 1.
Whereas for the section at Bedok, it can be another route suggestion.
Originally posted by gekpohboy:Currently, there is no bus connection between Kaki Bukit Avenue 1 and Eunos Bus Interchange. Meanwhile, the Downtown Line Kaki Bukit station opens next year.
For the above two reasons, I would like to suggest a new bus route.
Bus route 152
- Eunos Bus Interchange
- Eunos Road 2
- Sims Avenue
- Jalan Eunos
- Eunos Link
- Kaki Bukit Avenue 1
- Bedok Reservoir Road
- Bedok Reservoir Road (Christ Church and Blk 608)
- Bedok Reservoir Road
- Jalan Damai
- Kaki Bukit Avenue 1
- Eunos Link
- Jalan Eunos
- Changi Road
- Jalan Turi
- Sims Avenue
- Eunos Road 2
- Eunos Bus Interchange
The length of this route is 9.62 kilometres and the estimated travel time of this route is 49 minutes.
For this bus service, I recommend using five single decker buses on around thirteen minutes frequency.
51% of this route duplicates route 15, and 60% of it duplicates route 60 - similar to new route 308 where 67% of that new route duplicates route 172.
Nonetheless, 40% of this route is new.
Thank you for taking the time to read this post.
Can just amend svc 60 to ply Jln Tenaga - Kaki Bukit Ave 1 - Jln Damai instead of Bedok Reservoir Rd. No bus stops skipped and about 3-5 minutes extra runtime.
Originally posted by 201911:Can just amend svc 60 to ply Jln Tenaga - Kaki Bukit Ave 1 - Jln Damai instead of Bedok Reservoir Rd. No bus stops skipped and about 3-5 minutes extra runtime.
No, not 60. If want, re-route 21 to cover that section. 60 offers the direct bus connection to Eunos MRT for people living along Bedok Reservoir Road. If we re-route 60 that way, we will remove that direct bus connection. I rather we leave 60 alone and touch other routes instead, like 21, 66, etcetera. Thanks.