Route Suggestions (Part 6)
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Originally posted by AJQZC:
Hi Mr Pathlight, mind if I ask how old you are?
If you have reached legal driving age already, perhaps you could rent a bus and drive the route you suggested, then tell us how it feels like?
don't bother him lol, if can also i think he can suggest an islandwide route.. tsk tsk
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Originally posted by TIB1112L:
Route Suggestion: Service 117 (Punggol - Sembawang)
Punggol Pl / Ctrl / Rd / Dr / East / Field / Rd
TPE
Jalan Kayu
Piccadilly
Seletar A'space Dr / Link
West Camp Rd
Yishun Ave 1 / St 41 & 51 / Ave 4 / St 81 / Ave 1 / Ave 2 (KTB and YIS MRT) / Ave 5
Sembawang Road
Canberra Road
Sembawang Way / Vista
Benefits:
- supplements 858 (Khatib to Sembawang)
- direct link between Punggol and Jalan Kayu / Seletar
- direct link between Sembawang and Seletar
Please give feedback!
Is this merely a suggestion or is this the actual service?
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Originally posted by array88:
Is this merely a suggestion or is this the actual service?
Seems like his proposal... If it is a trunk... i doubt it will do inner streets like 51, 81.. I think it will be more via ring road to the north than south... and no need to connect to yishun mrt again, given that 103 already makes the SAP - Yishun connection.
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Service 171 (Shorten to CCK)
via
Original Route
Choa Chu Kang Rd
Teck Whye Ave
Choa Chu Kang Ave 3
Choa Chu Kang Way
Choa Chu Kang Ave 4But then I foresee the service will be axed.. It maybe serve as a back-up for the downtown line. Any intakes?
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Originally posted by SBS 9256 X:
Service 171 (Shorten to CCK)
via
Original Route
Choa Chu Kang Rd
Teck Whye Ave
Choa Chu Kang Ave 3
Choa Chu Kang Way
Choa Chu Kang Ave 4But then I foresee the service will be axed.. It maybe serve as a back-up for the downtown line. Any intakes?
From your last sentence I shall presume that your route originates from the CBD, thus Marina Ctr - CCK. High probability of the route being cut or further amended due to duplication with 67, 170 and DTL2.
The other stretch from Yishun - Mandai - Bt Panjang still sees significant demand though, why did you truncate that section? I would preserve it, and probably merge it with 177 to end at Bt Batok (Bt Panjang ITH not ready, and little space at CCK), so as to avoid bunching issues. It can travel via Hillview Rd instead of Gombak Dr at off-peaks when the MINDEF gates are closed. Number as 177/177A for peak and off-peak respectively.
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Originally posted by AJQZC:
From your last sentence I shall presume that your route originates from the CBD, thus Marina Ctr - CCK. High probability of the route being cut or further amended due to duplication with 67, 170 and DTL2.
The other stretch from Yishun - Mandai - Bt Panjang still sees significant demand though, why did you truncate that section? I would preserve it, and probably merge it with 177 to end at Bt Batok (Bt Panjang ITH not ready, and little space at CCK), so as to avoid bunching issues. It can travel via Hillview Rd instead of Gombak Dr at off-peaks when the MINDEF gates are closed. Number as 177/177A for peak and off-peak respectively.
I think he means Yishun - CCK.
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Originally posted by AJQZC:
From your last sentence I shall presume that your route originates from the CBD, thus Marina Ctr - CCK. High probability of the route being cut or further amended due to duplication with 67, 170 and DTL2.
The other stretch from Yishun - Mandai - Bt Panjang still sees significant demand though, why did you truncate that section? I would preserve it, and probably merge it with 177 to end at Bt Batok (Bt Panjang ITH not ready, and little space at CCK), so as to avoid bunching issues. It can travel via Hillview Rd instead of Gombak Dr at off-peaks when the MINDEF gates are closed. Number as 177/177A for peak and off-peak respectively.
I think he means Yishun - CCK.
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
I think he means Yishun - CCK.
Originally posted by AJQZC:From your last sentence I shall presume that your route originates from the CBD, thus Marina Ctr - CCK. High probability of the route being cut or further amended due to duplication with 67, 170 and DTL2.
The other stretch from Yishun - Mandai - Bt Panjang still sees significant demand though, why did you truncate that section? I would preserve it, and probably merge it with 177 to end at Bt Batok (Bt Panjang ITH not ready, and little space at CCK), so as to avoid bunching issues. It can travel via Hillview Rd instead of Gombak Dr at off-peaks when the MINDEF gates are closed. Number as 177/177A for peak and off-peak respectively.
Sorry, AJQZC.. I meant Yishun - CCK.
Thanks BusAnalayzer
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
I think he means Yishun - CCK.
He said the route would serve as backup for DTL. I thought that was Marina Centre - CCK.
But if we want to discuss a Yishun - CCK 171, that'd be back to my point above that CCK Int is really too crowded, and it already has 927 to Mandai (that has potential to be extended). Yishun - Bt Batok is a better choice for now, IMO.
Alternatively, we can compromise by extending 925 to Bt Batok via CCK Ave 7 / Brickland Rd / Bt Batok Rd / West Ave 2. That'd give 171 space to terminate at CCK.
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Anyway ... another suggestion for DTL2.
Break-up and extension: to optimize the use of poorly utilized 173.
Service 173: Clementi Int to Petir Rd (Loop)
To terminate at Bt Panjang when ITH is completed.
- Clementi Ave 3
- (original 173 route to Hume Ave)
- Hume Ave
- Hillview Ave
- Hillview Rd
- Upp Bt Timah Rd
- Dairy Farm Rd (non-stop)
- Dairy Farm Cres
- Jln Pakis (non-stop)
- Chestnut Dr
- Chestnut Ave
- Petir Rd
- Gangsa Rd
- Bt Panjang Rd
- Upp Bt Timah Rd
- Petir Rd
- Chestnut Ave
- Chestnut Dr
- Upp Bt Timah Rd
- Hillview Rd
- Hillview Ave
- Hume Ave
- (original 173 route to Clementi)
Service 987: Bt Batok Int to Yew Tee (Loop)
To cover lost sections of 173, and provide Yew Tee residents a link to Bt Panjang / DTL without having to pass through CCK central.
Unfortunately it seems a right turn from UBT Rd to Hume Ave is not possible ... so may need to cover this section with a 178 reroute to link Hume Ave - Bt Batok, if necessary.
- Bt Batok Ctrl
- Bt Batok Ave 1
- Bt Batok East Ave 6
- Bt Batok St 21
- Bt Batok East Ave 4
- Hillview Ave
- Jln Remaja
- Jln Batu Nilam
- Hillview Ave
- Hume Ave [return journey via Hillview Rd]
- Upp Bt Timah Rd
- Woodlands Rd
- KJE
- CCK Dr
- CCK North 5
- CCK St 54
- CCK North 6
- CCK Way
- CCK North 7
- CCK Cres (via Blk 682)
- CCK North 7
- (loop back towards Bt Batok)
Most former 173 links are well covered: Hillview - Clementi by 963, Hillview - Beauty World by 970, Bt Batok - UBT Rd (Rail Mall) by 178, and so on. Separating this service allow the two sections to be more direct and more useful services (as compared to the current loopback that the 173 route exhibits).
Hillview would be served by six trunks: 173, 176, 177 (or 171, if my suggestion above is approved), 963, 970, 987.
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Originally posted by AJQZC:
He said the route would serve as backup for DTL. I thought that was Marina Centre - CCK.
But if we want to discuss a Yishun - CCK 171, that'd be back to my point above that CCK Int is really too crowded, and it already has 927 to Mandai (that has potential to be extended). Yishun - Bt Batok is a better choice for now, IMO.
Alternatively, we can compromise by extending 925 to Bt Batok via CCK Ave 7 / Brickland Rd / Bt Batok Rd / West Ave 2. That'd give 171 space to terminate at CCK.
Hmmm.. True also.. I was wondering if 927 can extend to Yishun or not... Then 171 will go parallel with the DTL maybe BPJ - Marina Centre Service
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Originally posted by SBS 9256 X:
Hmmm.. True also.. I was wondering if 927 can extend to Yishun or not... Then 171 will go parallel with the DTL maybe BPJ - Marina Centre Service
How about, Extend 171 to Mct via Cbd? So route will be, Bt Panjang Rd Choa Chu Kang Rd Bukit Batok Rd Jurong Townhall Rd AYE MCE Anson Rd Robbinson Rd Colyer Quay Fullerton Rd St. Andrew's Rd Raffles Blvd (Mct) Makes sence? -
Originally posted by Sbs6750E:
How about, Extend 171 to Mct via Cbd? So route will be, Bt Panjang Rd Choa Chu Kang Rd Bukit Batok Rd Jurong Townhall Rd AYE MCE Anson Rd Robbinson Rd Colyer Quay Fullerton Rd St. Andrew's Rd Raffles Blvd (Mct) Makes sence?971E and 982E do that job well enough already, lol.
@SBS 9256X: Pls don't do 171 + 927, they serve different sectors of Mandai Rd. That would also remove the well-utilized link to Bt Panjang.
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No. Keep Service 67 and 171 as it is, introduce Service 841 as Yishun > Jurong East
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Should extend 175 to eunos and continue the journey via sims ave, sims dr, geylang east ctrl, paya lebar rd and back to sims ave. Ply aljunied road also can, can provide relief from sv80.
Geylang east ctrl area only has 2 buses, 80 and 155. And the latter is rather infrequent bringing people to nearest paya lebar mrt faster. There is the polyclinic in the area also.
Only problem is whether is there enough parking lots in eunos int. Would be great if this was introduced under bsep.
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hmm, some ideas.. how about a route from changi village to airport? somewhat like a feeder/short trunk.. let me think
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toa payoh int-marina centre ter.
TPY lor 6
TPY lor 4
TPY lor 6TPY lor 7TPY eastTPY lor 6TPY lor 2/PIE(tuas)thomson roadnorfolk roadowen roaddorset roadkeng lee roadkg java roadbukit timah roadscotts roadorchard roadbras basah roadraffles boulevardraffles boulevard/ave
stamford roadorchard road(YMCA)penang roadsomerset roadgrange road(no bus stop)orchard linkorchard turnorchard boulevard(no bus stop)scotts roadbukit timah roadkg java road(call at 1st bus stop,skip 2nd for now)norfolk roadowen roaddorset roadkg java road(use the 2nd bus stop)thomson roadPIE(changi)/TPY lor 2TPY lor 6TPY eastTPY lor 7TPY lor 6TPY lor 4TPY lor 6(towards int. -
Service 864
Hougang > Boon Lay
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Sv 117: Punggol Interchange <> Sembawang Interchange
Punggol Interchange -- Punggol Central -- Punggol East -- Punggol Dr -- Punggol Rd -- Punggol Field -- Punggol Way -- TPE -- Seletar West Link (express) -- West Camp Road (3 stops) -- Yishun Ave 1 -- Yishun St 41 -- Yishun Ring Road -- Yishun Ave 9 -- Yishun Ave 6 -- Yishun Ave 7 -- Yishun Ave 2 -- Canberra Rd -- Sembawang Way -- Sembawang Cres -- Sembawang Dr -- Sembawang Interchange
** Offers all unique connections w/ very little duplication
1. Intra-town within Punggol connecting Punggol central, Punggol dr, Punggol West (no service today ~ for part of it 386 does it very poorly!)
2. Connects all of Punggol town (except Punggol field east) to Northern suburbs with quick link to Yishun West town
3. Cuts through SAP quickly using Selatar West Link, but calls at few stops to facilitate future transfer to 102/103 as well as serving the SAP workers
4. Connects different parts of Yishun than 103 providing trunk service to Ring road, ave 1, ave 9, ave 6, ave 7
5. Connects Sembawang MRT quickly to Yishun West town (those going to Sembawang, need not take feeder to Yishun and then MRT)
6. Connects Yishun Industrial Estate / Yishun Ave 2 / Canberra Rd to Sembawang MRT (no service today, especially important with upcoming Canberra estate)
7. Connects Sembawang Crescent to Yishun town (today have 859 that is quite long winding + Sembawang Cres has quite a few developments coming up)
I think this service will also do well with high capacity buses... but maybe first to start with all SD fleet, and then upgrade as done for sv 4/35.
** Your feedback is appreciated.
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Originally posted by Rui jing:
Should extend 175 to eunos and continue the journey via sims ave, sims dr, geylang east ctrl, paya lebar rd and back to sims ave. Ply aljunied road also can, can provide relief from sv80.
Geylang east ctrl area only has 2 buses, 80 and 155. And the latter is rather infrequent bringing people to nearest paya lebar mrt faster. There is the polyclinic in the area also.
Only problem is whether is there enough parking lots in eunos int. Would be great if this was introduced under bsep.
Eunos got enough parking lots for another 2 service.SMRT 61 exclusively got 4 parking lots!
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Service 46: Changi Business Park - St. Michael's
(Since LTA and SBST are so resistant towards introducing 36M, let's have a new service.)Changi Business Park TerChangi South Ave 1Changi South Ave 4Changi Business Park Ctrl 1Changi Business Park Ave 1Changi South Ave 1Xilin AveECPBedok South Ave 1 (use Upp East Coast Rd and Bayshore Rd for return journey)Marine Parade Rd(U-turn at Amber Rd roundabout; express - 11/103 style)Still Rd South (both entrances to ECP from Tg Katong Rd South and Fort Rd cannot use DDs, leaving Still Rd South the only option)ECP(Follow svc 36 route to Grange Rd)Orchard TurnScotts RdNewton RdMoulmein RdJln Tan Tock Seng (loop at Ren Ci nursing home)Tan Tock Seng LinkIrrawaddy Rd (use Shan Rd and Irrawaddy Rd for return journey)Balestier RdWhampoa Dr (use Kim Keat Rd for return journey)Jln BahagiaKim Keat RdSt. Michael's Ter- Connection from Marine Parade to CBP- Supplements 36's Marine Parade-Orchard sector, can use DDs- Provides service to Bayshore, albeit unidirectional- Provides service to Jln Tan Tock Seng and Irrawaddy Rd where there's a considerable amount of housing and hospitals- Better connection within CBP from Xilin Ave and Changi Business Park Ctrl 1 to Expo MRT (will be even more useful when DTL3 opens) -
Originally posted by array88:
Service 46: Changi Business Park - St. Michael's
(Since LTA and SBST are so resistant towards introducing 36M, let's have a new service.)Changi Business Park TerChangi South Ave 1Changi South Ave 4Changi Business Park Ctrl 1Changi Business Park Ave 1Changi South Ave 1Xilin AveECPBedok South Ave 1 (use Upp East Coast Rd and Bayshore Rd for return journey)Marine Parade Rd(U-turn at Amber Rd roundabout; express - 11/103 style)Still Rd South (both entrances to ECP from Tg Katong Rd South and Fort Rd cannot use DDs, leaving Still Rd South the only option)ECP(Follow svc 36 route to Grange Rd)Orchard TurnScotts RdNewton RdMoulmein RdJln Tan Tock Seng (loop at Ren Ci nursing home)Tan Tock Seng LinkIrrawaddy Rd (use Shan Rd and Irrawaddy Rd for return journey)Balestier RdWhampoa Dr (use Kim Keat Rd for return journey)Jln BahagiaKim Keat RdSt. Michael's Ter- Connection from Marine Parade to CBP- Supplements 36's Marine Parade-Orchard sector, can use DDs- Provides service to Bayshore, albeit unidirectional- Provides service to Jln Tan Tock Seng and Irrawaddy Rd where there's a considerable amount of housing and hospitals- Better connection within CBP from Xilin Ave and Changi Business Park Ctrl 1 to Expo MRT (will be even more useful when DTL3 opens)Tanjong Katong Road South is not so bad... the trees and branches are very high except at one place while entering TK South road from ECP... The exit way towards ECP is fully clear.. I go there very often so have observed this...
The bus can use Tanjong Katong South on its way to ECP and Fort road on its way back. Even better just chop few branches and you can use Tanjong Katong south in both directions.
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Service 46
Ang Mo Kio Interchange - Changi Business Park
Via
Ang Mo Kio Ave 8
Ang Mo Kio Ave 5
Buangkok Green
Sengkang East Rd
Sengkang East Way
Punggol Rd
TPE
Tampines Ave 10
Tampines Ave 1
Tampines Ave 5
Simei Ave
Xilin Ave
Changi South Ave 1/2/3/4
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Service 126
New Bridge Rd Ter - Yishun Int
Via
Eu Tong Sen St
New Bridge Rd
Upp Cross St
Clemenceau Ave
River Valley Rd
Hoot Kiam Rd
Paterson Rd
Scotts Rd
Stevens Rd
Whitley Rd
PIE
Thomson Rd
Lornie Rd
Upp Thomson Rd
Sembawang Rd
Yishun Ave 3
Yishun Ctrl -
CBP might use 4x series and svc 48 might terminate there.Missing link to Bndep will be covered by svc 47x passing by Bndep and loop somewhere Bedok North estates.There might be another 2 svc going to Northeast and CBD district too.Upp East Coast is also slated for expansion too.