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Originally posted by SBS 9631X:And anyway, 5159U is on 151 today btw.
And btw, not spotted on 43 (for 6477U) doesn't mean it's not perm HG 43. There's something called the insider sources you know..
Excuse me, what bus is SBS6477U replacing on 43? There are already 13 BSEP Citaros.
Originally posted by SBS3004X:Excuse me, what bus is SBS6477U replacing on 43? There are already 13 BSEP Citaros.
Ask Jack or PM him if you dk what i'm trying to drive at.
Or go & recheck if your '1 missing DD' on Wiki & see if it's really a missing DD or not. Who knows it might have become a SD that everyone missed out all along.
because looking at your Sv 43 masterpiece on Wiki, it's the most messy part of Wiki concerning Go-Ahead swaps (compared to other HG svcs if you dw to talk about AM 136 vs BNDEP side svcs) in recent months.
And your accuracy hit rate isn't that high for Redeployments yeah based on past records, so you can't blame alot of us who might be doubting your edits / info somewhat
And it does not make sense why 6477U will be left out & not xfer to Go-Ahead when practically every Citaro in front & behind it are going over to Go-Ahead svcs.
So once you've tidied up your Sv 43 masterpiece with regards to what's confirmed in & out, then you let me know. Otherwise i'll leave that Sv 43 section un-updated first when i upload that updated Word document to the FB grp this weekend or the next
Originally posted by SBS 9631X:Ask Jack or PM him if you dk what i'm trying to drive at.
Or go & recheck if your '1 missing DD' on Wiki & see if it's really a missing DD or not. Who knows it might have become a SD that everyone missed out all along.
because looking at your Sv 43 masterpiece on Wiki, it's the most messy part of Wiki concerning Go-Ahead swaps (compared to other HG svcs if you dw to talk about AM 136 vs BNDEP side svcs) in recent months.
And your accuracy hit rate isn't that high for Redeployments yeah based on past records, so you can't blame alot of us who might be doubting your edits / info somewhat
And it does not make sense why 6477U will be left out & not xfer to Go-Ahead when practically every Citaro in front & behind it are going over to Go-Ahead svcs.So once you've tidied up your Sv 43 masterpiece with regards to what's confirmed in & out, then you let me know. Otherwise i'll leave that Sv 43 section un-updated first when i upload that updated Word document to the FB grp this weekend or the next
The 'missing DD' is a bus which performs on 43 almost every day but has SP stix.
Originally posted by SBS 9631X:Hmm, then I just clarify first uh, I edited 8426D as AM SP on Wiki last night based on the past few weeks when it was kicked out from BN 12 to AMDEP (with no stix & no perm). If you see a 268 stix on 8426D after this, then you help me update for that bus.
Actually very simple for 8174E. Just need to check if the perm stix on window / BC cabin still there. Nowadays if it's SP, AMDEP just removes the prev perm stix & don't bother to put a 'SPARE' stix liao
Just clarifying in case others (not you) start asking why I edited 8426D as SP on WIki
saw no sticker on 8174 iirc
Originally posted by SBS 9631X:Hmm, then I just clarify first uh, I edited 8426D as AM SP on Wiki last night based on the past few weeks when it was kicked out from BN 12 to AMDEP (with no stix & no perm). If you see a 268 stix on 8426D after this, then you help me update for that bus.
Actually very simple for 8174E. Just need to check if the perm stix on window / BC cabin still there. Nowadays if it's SP, AMDEP just removes the prev perm stix & don't bother to put a 'SPARE' stix liao
Just clarifying in case others (not you) start asking why I edited 8426D as SP on WIki
8426D was initialy listed as AMDEP 121 right? no perm sticker on 8426D though.. yesterday it was 8897 back on 268 doing the same slot as 8897 (which is on 8002 slot)...
someone else say that 8174 does not have perm sticker.. not spotted on 268 for past few weeks as well.
Originally posted by SBS 9631X:Ask Jack or PM him if you dk what i'm trying to drive at.
Or go & recheck if your '1 missing DD' on Wiki & see if it's really a missing DD or not. Who knows it might have become a SD that everyone missed out all along.
because looking at your Sv 43 masterpiece on Wiki, it's the most messy part of Wiki concerning Go-Ahead swaps (compared to other HG svcs if you dw to talk about AM 136 vs BNDEP side svcs) in recent months.
And your accuracy hit rate isn't that high for Redeployments yeah based on past records, so you can't blame alot of us who might be doubting your edits / info somewhat
And it does not make sense why 6477U will be left out & not xfer to Go-Ahead when practically every Citaro in front & behind it are going over to Go-Ahead svcs.So once you've tidied up your Sv 43 masterpiece with regards to what's confirmed in & out, then you let me know. Otherwise i'll leave that Sv 43 section un-updated first when i upload that updated Word document to the FB grp this weekend or the next
he is so fancy about sv43... and keep saying about upgrade on sv43... one bus stuck on sv43 for one week can consider pem already (even though the SP sticker still there).... and even weird that someone edit sv43 have 14AM/14PM shift (exclude 43M duties)... but in the chart only have 14AM bus and 12 PM bus and yet he still claim that there are 20 buses for sv43 in am and 21 buses doing PM shift?
while ETT clearly show that there are only 20 slots from 2pm to 5 pm departure from Punggol..
Originally posted by SBS6853S:saw no sticker on 8174 iirc
Hmm, if you can see 8174E again, help me & lemon1974 re-confirm? Thanks alot. Must check both the coinbox & pillar & the small compartment above the BC though. Sometimes they paste the prev perm stix in super obscure places
Originally posted by lemon1974:8426D was initialy listed as AMDEP 121 right? no perm sticker on 8426D though.. yesterday it was 8897 back on 268 doing the same slot as 8897 (which is on 8002 slot)...
someone else say that 8174 does not have perm sticker.. not spotted on 268 for past few weeks as well.
I edited 8426D as AM 121 previously actually. Because back then, Sv 12 sent 8426D 8428Z 8531H 8307P over for 6437K 6438H 6439E from 121.
So I thought 8428Z was the one out to SP, not 121, since it didn't have any stix at all last time (which apparently it wasn't SP, just that it didn't have a 53 stix yet for a few weeks) + someone told me 8426D got 121 stix somehow
Then 8849S appeared on 121 some 2-3 weeks after the initial bunch of Sv 12 KUBs went over, and 8849S had the perm stix for 121 liao. Then yeah, like you said, 8426D no perm stix yet since it went over after i double-checked.. so that's why i revert it back to AM SP now
Kinda messy but after a few weeks, all the loopholes are kinda cleared.
8428Z replaces 6579J from AM 53 (which went to 12), then 8426D replaces 6440A from AM SP on Sv 12 (before this 8174E thing came about)
SBS3503Y on 43 with SP stix still.
Originally posted by SBS3004X:The 'missing DD' is a bus which performs on 43 almost every day but has SP stix.
If the bus has SP stix, it's spare. No buts.
A slot is determined by the schedule, not by the buses on those slots.
It could be an SD slot but they decided to put DD on it instead.
But it does not mean that slot is perm DD.
Hope this clarifies. If you still refuse to believe, then it's your problem. Thanks.
Originally posted by lemon1974:he is so fancy about sv43... and keep saying about upgrade on sv43... one bus stuck on sv43 for one week can consider pem already (even though the SP sticker still there).... and even weird that someone edit sv43 have 14AM/14PM shift (exclude 43M duties)... but in the chart only have 14AM bus and 12 PM bus and yet he still claim that there are 20 buses for sv43 in am and 21 buses doing PM shift?
while ETT clearly show that there are only 20 slots from 2pm to 5 pm departure from Punggol..
Sorry, I have double checked and there are 20 peak hour slots for both AM and PM.
It's just that the frequency is terrible in the early AM peak hours.
I have changed the '1 missing DD' to '1 missing bus'.
I have also removed some of the buses from the table, as they need further confirmation.
There are definitely at least 9 perm DD slots on 43. Every day, a random SP DD will do a random SD slot on 43.
Confirmed DD slots on 43:
3A, 4A/18P, 7A, 14A/26P.
All S shift slots.
TBC DD slots on 43:
9A/22P
Originally posted by SBS2656X:If the bus has SP stix, it's spare. No buts.
A slot is determined by the schedule, not by the buses on those slots.
It could be an SD slot but they decided to put DD on it instead.
But it does not mean that slot is perm DD.
Hope this clarifies. If you still refuse to believe, then it's your problem. Thanks.
Well-said bro. ![]()
But add on to your post - because sometimes HG / AM / BR can't be bothered to paste any new SP stix. So they just simply removed the previous perm stix only, that's another way to indicate SP too
Originally posted by SMB3163D:SG1747KKJDEP SP >> KJDEP 979Perm 979AP06
SG1747K seems to be on 979AP02 instead based on these few days of observation, 979AP06 is done by SG1703L
SG1744T -- 979AP01
SG1747K -- 979AP02
SG1700U -- 979AP03
SG1701S -- 979AP04 (confirmed as i boarded bus today)
SG1702P -- 979AP05 (confirmed as i boarded bus yesterday)
SG1703L -- 979AP06
SG1704J -- 979AP07 (confirmed as i boarded bus today)
Off peak sequence is in this order too
Originally posted by SMB42P:SG1747K seems to be on 979AP02 instead based on these few days of observation, 979AP06 is done by SG1703L
SG1744T -- 979AP01
SG1747K -- 979AP02
SG1700U -- 979AP03
SG1701S -- 979AP04 (confirmed as i boarded bus today)
SG1702P -- 979AP05 (confirmed as i boarded bus yesterday)
SG1703L -- 979AP06
SG1704J -- 979AP07 (confirmed as i boarded bus today)Off peak sequence is in this order too
I automatically assume perm AP06 cos saw it once on that slot..
So weird that they deploy the buses the opposite way
SG1691L SG1692J SG1693G SG1694D SG1695B SG1696Z SG1697X SG1698T SG1699R
>> AMDEP SP
SMB1370K SMB1371H SMB1374A SMB3076Y SMB3085X SMB3089K +3 more A22 B2
>> WLDEP SP
SMB8016M
>> WLDEP 903
Originally posted by SMB315C:SG1691L SG1692J SG1693G SG1694D SG1695B SG1696Z SG1697X SG1698T SG1699R
>> AMDEP SP
SMB1370K SMB1371H SMB1374A SMB3076Y SMB3085X SMB3089K +3 more A22 B2
>> WLDEP SP
Give Amdep back?Wldep scared use Citaros ah?
Not A22 again. i was expecting citaros on WL service. So sick and tired of A22
Originally posted by ZzCrushX:Not A22 again. i was expecting citaros on WL service. So sick and tired of A22
At least OCs if they love fast bus.
Originally posted by carbikebus:At least OCs if they love fast bus.
Yeah OC500LE is useful for service like 187 and 858. but since they prefer A22 less likely they will be back to WLDEP