Possible. I would like a route to the East, one to the city (enter Suntec City) and maybe a new route to CGA later. But now some of the lots are taken for training buses
117 entering Canberra would mean that the fastest link bet. Yishun & Sembawang is no longer applicable and lose paasengers as it is a route many people use to go fast compared to 858
Originally posted by SMB1368T:Possible. I would like a route to the East, one to the city (enter Suntec City) and maybe a new route to CGA later. But now some of the lots are taken for training buses
117 entering Canberra would mean that the fastest link bet. Yishun & Sembawang is no longer applicable and lose paasengers as it is a route many people use to go fast compared to 858
Come on - there is MRT to take you faster between Yishun and Sembawang. Alternately, there is also 856, 858, 859. Not enough?
Let's look at what will benefit more people.
Do you see how many people actually take 117 between Yishun & Sembawang and vice versa? Many people use this service especially in the afternoon. Even if its 10 pax, its what some people have been looking for
Not all people take the MRT as the bus stop is in front of Northpoint. You know that the underpass can be fairly long
Have you seen that Blk 589D has previously no bus to Yishun before 117? Residents here have been wanting this service and now they often ride it to Yishun
Yes, you have 856 nearby. But I dont think the residents want to since its a long walk to them since some of them are elderly too. In addition, 117 reaches your destination faster than walking to the MRT when the bus stop is in front of you and it is also a semi express service towards Yishun
What about those people from the mosque every Friday too? There are at least 15 pax who board the bus as it is also a generally fast way to get to the mosque. Not all people do want to go to the mosque in SEM, you know
the problem here is stop pushing people to take mrt. not all the place is reachable by train. also look at circle line every morning so many people. I wonder if LTA can look for other way of transport other than train. to get to a place faster.
What i thinking is base on the bus service LTA spend a bit of money by drawing full day bus lane at those places where high demand for public transport whether is for train or bus service. force cars to give way to buses along the way. and also bulid overhead bus lane at key junctions. We not need another MRT lines. just semi BRT might help out.
Now we have electric bus on trial maybe as well perpare a good transport plan both bus and train.
Originally posted by SMB1368T:Do you see how many people actually take 117 between Yishun & Sembawang and vice versa? Many people use this service especially in the afternoon. Even if its 10 pax, its what some people have been looking for
Not all people take the MRT as the bus stop is in front of Northpoint. You know that the underpass can be fairly long
Have you seen that Blk 589D has previously no bus to Yishun before 117? Residents here have been wanting this service and now they often ride it to Yishun
Yes, you have 856 nearby. But I dont think the residents want to since its a long walk to them since some of them are elderly too. In addition, 117 reaches your destination faster than walking to the MRT when the bus stop is in front of you and it is also a semi express service towards Yishun
What about those people from the mosque every Friday too? There are at least 15 pax who board the bus as it is also a generally fast way to get to the mosque. Not all people do want to go to the mosque in SEM, you know
it is just an additional 1km detour.... the travel time wont add so much...maybe 5-10 mins?
further, it will benefit the residents at the new canberra flats for them to have direct link to yishun, rather than have to take feeders or walk out to the main roads.....
now there is a new canberra MRT station up soon in two years time
Originally posted by SMB1368T:Do you see how many people actually take 117 between Yishun & Sembawang and vice versa? Many people use this service especially in the afternoon. Even if its 10 pax, its what some people have been looking for
Not all people take the MRT as the bus stop is in front of Northpoint. You know that the underpass can be fairly long
Have you seen that Blk 589D has previously no bus to Yishun before 117? Residents here have been wanting this service and now they often ride it to Yishun
Yes, you have 856 nearby. But I dont think the residents want to since its a long walk to them since some of them are elderly too. In addition, 117 reaches your destination faster than walking to the MRT when the bus stop is in front of you and it is also a semi express service towards Yishun
What about those people from the mosque every Friday too? There are at least 15 pax who board the bus as it is also a generally fast way to get to the mosque. Not all people do want to go to the mosque in SEM, you know
Hi mr smb1368T, from the way I see it, LTA will not re-route service 117 to pass through other parts of sembawang. The way the route is current structured can tell that it is all along main roads and directly connected to sembawang bus interchange and MRT in the fastest possible manner. Counting the number of stops it goes in to Canberra link and sembawang way will make all realize this. Yes, I agree Canberra link blk 589D needs it. Moreover, it is a trunk service to connect Punggol to yishun and sembawang. So no need to worry about detractors who will always want to route into those new flats around Canberra areas. That will definitely be planned for new routes and most likely feeder services first and later on new trunks. Cheers. Thanks.
S117 is vital but doesn't need too many DDs imho,Even the perm BCs told so..
Ideal fleet is 8 SD and 5 DD
Originally posted by dupdup77:Hi mr smb1368T, from the way I see it, LTA will not re-route service 117 to pass through other parts of sembawang. The way the route is current structured can tell that it is all along main roads and directly connected to sembawang bus interchange and MRT in the fastest possible manner. Counting the number of stops it goes in to Canberra link and sembawang way will make all realize this. Yes, I agree Canberra link blk 589D needs it. Moreover, it is a trunk service to connect Punggol to yishun and sembawang. So no need to worry about detractors who will always want to route into those new flats around Canberra areas. That will definitely be planned for new routes and most likely feeder services first and later on new trunks. Cheers. Thanks.
To lemon1974,
the problem is that not many people will live there from this year onwards. You cant expect a major service to serve a small community. That is why 42 is the only bus in Kembangan as the population is small. Furthermore, you have 883 which is going to SEM MRT too where you have more connections from there which other services can still tank the load
I am sure more services will go there once its fully developed
To: dupdup77
thank you so much!
Jalan Tenteram by right is already developed. Its time that that area gets more services
Originally posted by Sbs6750E:Pls explain sv 21. Rerouted to Jln Tenteram. Sv 117 will still serve Blk 589D if rerouted to Canberra.
Hi mr sbs6750E, I cannot control what LTA thinks. Just hope LTA prove what I say is wrong. See if they will divert Sbs 117 inside or not. We shall see in the next few months. Cheers. Thanks.
Originally posted by dupdup77:Hi mr sbs6750E, I cannot control what LTA thinks. Just hope LTA prove what I say is wrong. See if they will divert Sbs 117 inside or not. We shall see in the next few months. Cheers. Thanks.
you will see very soon...
actually yeah its possible, but who knows...
please dont start shooting me if 117 gets amended. I am only stating my opinions okay
Originally posted by SMB1368T:Jalan Tenteram by right is already developed. Its time that that area gets more services
Originally posted by hgdep103:you will see very soon...
Hi mr hgdep103, yes I shall wait to see. If you got insider info, let me know too. Cheers. Thanks.
Nvm. Lets dissolve everything first till the time comes
To Sbs6750E:
Easy. Because that one is a different case. 131 still can duplicate the old 21 route. It is not possible to make a new route as the new route would have duplicate 21 as well. Since 21 has DDs to carry so it is of no problem since people want to go to Novena anyway
117 DDs are anyway will still be kept to get ready for new developments along the route along the way such as at Seletar
Even now its a waste for DDs to ply Canberra when Canberra is only starting to grow. St Micheal's is already a much developed area in which more people live here than Canberra
#justsaying
Originally posted by SMB1368T:actually yeah its possible, but who knows...
please dont start shooting me if 117 gets amended. I am only stating my opinions okay
Lets not be so rigid. It is just a suggestion which will benefit more people. At the end of the day, LTA can always introduce new services.
So your logic is that there should be a new service for the one BTO rather than have existing service that is having extremely low loading in that area to be diverted.
So have 2 low loading services and waste more resources.
Well LTA is okay with that but where my opinion is concerned, I don't quite like this strategy of wasting resources.
Rather introduce new service when more flats are up and occupancy increases.
You can also amend 852 to Sembawang via Canberra too like how some users have been suggesting
Originally posted by carbikebus:S117 is vital but doesn't need too many DDs imho,Even the perm BCs told so..
Ideal fleet is 8 SD and 5 DD
in fact if they know how to slot properly, i doubt the need of 5 DDs, except when 117 arrives Yishun twd Sembawang before 169 does during peak hours
Originally posted by hgdep103:in fact if they know how to slot properly, i doubt the need of 5 DDs, except when 117 arrives Yishun twd Sembawang before 169 does during peak hours
Nearly half of their mealbreaks is at Sembawang
Originally posted by hgdep103:in fact if they know how to slot properly, i doubt the need of 5 DDs, except when 117 arrives Yishun twd Sembawang before 169 does during peak hours
117 loading has failed to pick up as of now. The last 2 times I took the bus during PM peka from Sembawang to Punggol, the loading was:
Sembawang - Yishun (20-25 pax)
Yishun - Khatib (30 pax)
Khatib (45 pax)
Yishun Ave 1 (15 pax)
SAP (25 pax)
Seletar Circus (35-40 pax).
* Overall loading can be managed excellently by a full fleet SD. Loading may improve in future with more occupancy in Punggol west, Yishun Ave 1 and Canberra Estate.
Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:117 loading has failed to pick up as of now. The last 2 times I took the bus during PM peka from Sembawang to Punggol, the loading was:
Sembawang - Yishun (20-25 pax)
Yishun - Khatib (30 pax)
Khatib (45 pax)
Yishun Ave 1 (15 pax)
SAP (25 pax)
Seletar Circus (35-40 pax).
* Overall loading can be managed excellently by a full fleet SD. Loading may improve in future with more occupancy in Punggol west, Yishun Ave 1 and Canberra Estate.
demand bursts rapidly around evening peak from Yishun to Sembawang. Recommended to observe around 6-7pm