Originally posted by carbikebus:I think 110 & 944 contract is valid till 2021 until the Bulim & Sengkang-Hougang package is up for bidding.
For 974,its up to 2023 when the CCK-BPJ tender is up for bidding.
It makes a lot of sense for 110 and 117 to do a straight swap immediately. Both are orphan routes.
117 fits easily inside Sembawang package, which is next to get farmed out. Can't deny that.
Originally posted by iveco:It makes a lot of sense for 110 and 117 to do a straight swap immediately. Both are orphan routes.
117 fits easily inside Sembawang package, which is next to get farmed out. Can't deny that.
If 117 under SBW,then SBW is all SMRT svc lor...
SBS Transit retain back Bukit Merah especially 160/170 contract.
Reason being is that they are cross-border services. They have not enough new buses. They want to change their fleet but it will take longer duration :)
All the Chinese bus operations (Jiaoyun/Travel GSH and Shenzhen) will screw up even more!!!!!!!! Adding that: SMRT is lower pay but in the end SBS Transit wants to have share in pie.
SBS Transit wins Bukit Merah bus package for S$472 million
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SBS Transit wins the right to operate the fourth bus package
The government announced the winner of the fourth bus package operating rights. SBS Transit’s bidding price is 13% higher than the lowest bidding price. It is also higher than SMRT’s bidding price, but still able to win the operating rights at 4.72 billion dollars.
The LTA awarded the operating rights of “Bukit Merah Bus Package� to SBS Transit this afternoon. This is the second bus contracting model contract awarded to SBS Transit. Contract will begin from the fourth quarter of this year.
SBS Transit asked for 4.72 billion dollars to operate the Bukit Merah bus package for 5 years, which is 13% higher than the lowest asking price by Travel GSH (4.1883 billion dollars).
As compared to the second lowest asking price by SMRT (4.4492 billion dollars), SBS Transit’s asking price is 6% higher.
First-time participant Shenzhen bus group asked for the third lowest price, at 4.4926 billion dollars.
The Bukit Merah bus package comprises of 18 bus routes currently operated by SBS Transit, of which there’s 2 cross boarder bus services. The bus routes include 5, 16, 57, 93, 120, 145, 170, 195, 272, 273, 400 and 402.
LTA explained in the press release that the reason for awarding the contract to SBS Transit is that the proposal submitted by SBS Transit shows that the company has a complete understanding of the operating considerations of the contract. With a rich experience in bus service deployment, it is able to provide the most optimal deployment of buses and resources.
�The proposal shows that SBS Transit has a rich experience in bus operations, and is able to provide the most value-for-money service.�
SBS Transit previously won the third bus package operating rights at 4.8033 billion dollars. The first two bus package was awarded to Tower Transit and Go Ahead respectively.
Under the new bus operating model, the government pays the operator a service fee and collects the fare revenue.
LTA uses a “two-letter� evaluation method to evaluate the quality of bids, such as the maintenance framework and bus captain welfare, before evaluating the asking price of bids that fulfill the first requirement.
As expected la,With current tpt minister,there is less chance for foreign operators to win
So,St Mikes will still be all Sbst...
Hahaha, I guessed it right. Sbs transit is king. The bus contracting scheme is just to make everybody happy. Cheers. Thanks.
Originally posted by dupdup77:Hahaha, I guessed it right. Sbs transit is king. The bus contracting scheme is just to make everybody happy. Cheers. Thanks.
If all the BCM ppl thinking like you,then abolished all the BCM..All bus contract give SBST better.Then everyone will be happy for not being treated like a clowns.
[Land Transport Authority] LTA Awards Bukit Merah Bus Package to SBS Transit Ltd
https://www.lta.gov.sg/apps/news/page.aspx?c=2&id=a0d4d08f-32f9-4a7a-804b-a0e97e9c19e6
https://www.lta.gov.sg/data/apps/news/press/2018/20180223_Bid_Prices_for_Bukit_Merah_Bus_Package_AnnexA.pdf
https://www.lta.gov.sg/data/apps/news/press/2018/20180223_Details_of_Bukit_Merah_Bus_Package_AnnexB.pdf
[SBS Transit] SBS Transit wins tender to operate the Bukit Merah Bus Package
https://www.sbstransit.com.sg/press/2018-02-23-01.aspx
Straits times article on FB mention 170A as one of the services to JB LOL
Originally posted by TIB987K:[Land Transport Authority] LTA Awards Bukit Merah Bus Package to SBS Transit Ltd
https://www.lta.gov.sg/apps/news/page.aspx?c=2&id=a0d4d08f-32f9-4a7a-804b-a0e97e9c19e6
https://www.lta.gov.sg/data/apps/news/press/2018/20180223_Bid_Prices_for_Bukit_Merah_Bus_Package_AnnexA.pdf
https://www.lta.gov.sg/data/apps/news/press/2018/20180223_Details_of_Bukit_Merah_Bus_Package_AnnexB.pdf[SBS Transit] SBS Transit wins tender to operate the Bukit Merah Bus Package
https://www.sbstransit.com.sg/press/2018-02-23-01.aspx
As long as not SMRT win can liao. I happy liao.
To me, one of the influential factors in the present results seems to be the need for 160 and 170 to remain status quo...otherwise the administrative side in JB may be complicated.
Originally posted by Gus.chong:To me, one of the influential factors in the present results seems to be the need for 160 and 170 to remain status quo...otherwise the administrative side in JB may be complicated.
And yes, they may have to change buses to either Scania K230UB Euro V single deckers or Citaro single deckers (either Batch 1, Batch 2 or SG-plated buses).
Originally posted by AntiDennisLance:As long as not SMRT win can liao. I happy liao.
My gut feeling says Sembawang will remain with the incumbents.
Since SBST snagged Seletar and held on to Bukit Merah, I hope Hougang goes to one of the other operators (logically GAS since they already have the adjacent Loyang contract).
I forsee its back to square one where SBST will dominated the bus industry again with SMRT will be improved and takes the balance package..Trains will be 50/50 among them...
Originally posted by iveco:My gut feeling says Sembawang will remain with the incumbents.
Since SBST snagged Seletar and held on to Bukit Merah, I hope Hougang goes to one of the other operators (logically GAS since they already have the adjacent Loyang contract).
Wait long2 lah Sengkang-Hougang will goes to other operators..Its all wayang only.
Originally posted by Gus.chong:To me, one of the influential factors in the present results seems to be the need for 160 and 170 to remain status quo...otherwise the administrative side in JB may be complicated.
If 160 and 170 need to remain status quo, so does 950. But still better to have all JB routes under one operator for economy of scale.
Originally posted by carbikebus:Wait long2 lah Sengkang-Hougang will goes to other operators..Its all wayang only.
Maybe when the time comes for Hougang to get farmed out Pritam Singh become PM liao. Who knows, maybe LTA adopt the "no more than 50% of total service miles" rule of Transperth and SBST is automatically frozen out of Hougang and barred from defending it.
Originally posted by Gus.chong:To me, one of the influential factors in the present results seems to be the need for 160 and 170 to remain status quo...otherwise the administrative side in JB may be complicated.
If thats the case why bother to farmed out Bt Merah and Woodlands contracts since its so complicated with cross border services?Just to waste others time?
Originally posted by iveco:Maybe when the time comes for Hougang to get farmed out Pritam Singh become PM liao. Who knows, maybe LTA adopt the "no more than 50% of total service miles" rule of Transperth and SBST is automatically frozen out of Hougang and barred from defending it.
Its game over already,The two foreign operators just operate until their contract expired
Actually, I have a feeling that eventually, because the market is so small, with only a few contenders, everything would be back to square one. Nonetheless, the competition is real. But instead of getting the best deal, this BCM may turn out to be just a method to ensure that the bus operators do their job, otherwise they would be replaced.
The reason why UK can do it is that UK is a big country, with lots of bus companies, and the European Union where it is in is quite well established. Singapore has ASEAN, but if you look around, our closest accompany is just the MyRapid transport (RapidKL / RapidPenang) in Malaysia.
Market is small, and the politics is there. For BCM to work in Singapore is gonna be a challenge. Otherwise, the benefits is limited.
Originally posted by carbikebus:Its game over already,The two foreign operators just operate until their contract expired
Actually, Tower Transit operating the city direct in Yishun, and both Tower Transit and Go Ahead operating MRT shuttle all over Singapore is an indication (and assurance to investors) that Tower Transit and Go Ahead are here to stay.
At worst case scenario, a company may not operate any BCM contract. But at the very least, at least a city direct or some special public bus service for LTA.
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Originally posted by SG1131L:Actually, I have a feeling that eventually, because the market is so small, with only a few contenders, everything would be back to square one. Nonetheless, the competition is real. But instead of getting the best deal, this BCM may turn out to be just a method to ensure that the bus operators do their job, otherwise they would be replaced.
The reason why UK can do it is that UK is a big country, with lots of bus companies, and the European Union where it is in is quite well established. Singapore has ASEAN, but if you look around, our closest accompany is just the MyRapid transport (RapidKL / RapidPenang) in Malaysia.
Market is small, and the politics is there. For BCM to work in Singapore is gonna be a challenge. Otherwise, the benefits is limited.
Hi mr SG1131L, BCM is a big wayang. Just like the bus drivers are told to purposely slow down by the operators if there is a similar bus service no in front just to maintain headway. In the end, the bus behind purposely travels so slow intentionally and for the next few minutes, there are no passengers waiting to board it as well. A big farcical wayang without any objectives. Wayang for the sake of wayang. Only disadvantage is people on board gets delayed for another few minutes to destinations. Cheers. Thanks.