Originally posted by carbikebus:23:Tampines Concourse Int-Queen Street Ter
Tampines Concourse Int
Tampines Ave 5-2 stops
Tampines Ave 1-5 stops
Bedok North Rd Etxn-Express
Bedok North Rd-1 stop
PIE
Jln Kolam Ayer-2 stops
Bendemeer Rd-5 stops
Jln Besar-3 stops
Queen St Ter
--------
Queen St Ter
Rochor Rd-1 stop
Rochor Canal Rd-1 stop
Serangoon Rd-8 stops
Jln Kolam Ayer-2 stops
PIE
Bedok North Rd-1 stop
Bedok North Rd Etxn-Express
Tampines Ave 1-5 stops
Tampines Ave 5-2 stops
Tampines Concourse Int
BCs get the chance to rest and relieve at Queen St,2 lots is enough.
I would not shift 23 to Tampines Concourse... It has quite good loading from Tampines Int and few alternative services.
376 (Compassvale to Fernvale Link; 386 style)
Via
Anchorvale Dr
Anchorvale Lane
Anchorvale Link (serves with NR6)
Sengkang East Way
Fernvale Link
Sengkang West Ave (plies in 2 ways)
Originally posted by SG4043S:376 (Compassvale to Fernvale Link; 386 style)
Via
Anchorvale Dr
Anchorvale Lane
Anchorvale Link (serves with NR6)
Sengkang East Way
Fernvale Link
Sengkang West Ave (plies in 2 ways)
1: There is no right turn from Anchorvale Link to Sengkang East Ave.
2: Residents at Fernvale Link can walk to Layar LRT to go to Sengkang. Those on the other side can walk to Sengkang West Ave to take 50 or Fernvale LRT.
3: Your route doesn't link Fernvale Link residents with any facilities in Sengkang, besides the town centre, which is already served by LRT and existing buses, and some schools.
Confirm will have kosong loading.
which explains why the routes today are satisfactory bcos the roads are complicated. Eg 329 dosent go to Buangkok like you want it to go because its near
anyway, the route is actually turning left and not right from Anchorvale Link
in addition, it is strange that you want 374 to enter Fernvale Link when you stated the alternatives for the residents to go to Sengkang as well. I think I remember you also stated before that you have been wanting for a route to that road eh?
note that I am just saying
Originally posted by SG4043S:which explains why the routes today are satisfactory bcos the roads are complicated. Eg 329 dosent go to Buangkok like you want it to go because its near
anyway, the route is actually turning left and not right from Anchorvale Link
in addition, it is strange that you want 374 to enter Fernvale Link when you stated the alternatives for the residents to go to Sengkang as well. I think I remember you also stated before that you have been wanting for a route to that road eh?
note that I am just saying
My 374 extension uses the upper end of Fernvale Link.
Originally posted by SMB315C:Amendments to Woodlands Town Services
Intra-Town 911: Woodlands Int - Woodlands St 82 & Ave 3 (loop)
- Sv902 to be withdrawn and merge with Sv911
- Enhance connectivity to Republic Poly & Marsiling Stn
- Commuters along the East loop travelling to Woodlands Train Checkpt can alight at Woodlands Int and take Sv856 & Sv950M
- Commuters along the West loop travelling to Woodlands Train Checkpt can alight at Marsiling Stn and take Sv856 & Sv950M at Opp Marsiling Stn
- Commuters travelling to Riverside Sec Sch can take Sv858, Sv900/A, Sv904, Sv913, Sv964, Sv965 & Sv969 to Blk 825 and walk
Route :
(East loop)
Woodlands Int
Woodlands Ave 2 (Non-stop)
Woodlands Ave 9 (Republic Poly)
Woodlands St 81 (Non-stop)
Woodlands St 82
Woodlands Ave 4
Woodlands St 83
Woodlands Ave 7
Woodlands Int
(West loop)
Woodlands Int
Woodlands Ave 3 (Non-stop)
Woodlands St 13
Woodlands Ctr Rd (Marsiling Pr Sch)
Woodlands Ave 3 (Marsiling Stn)
Woodlands St 11 (Non-stop)
Woodlands St 13
Woodlands Ave 3 (Non-stop)
Woodlands Int
Intra-Town 912: Woodlands Int - Woodlands Ave 7 & Ave 3 (loop)
- Enhance connectivity to Fuchun CC, Woodlands Polyclinic & Marsiling Stn
- Commuters along the East loop travelling to Woodlands Train Checkpt can alight at Woodlands Int and take Sv856 & Sv950M
- Commuters along the West loop travelling to Woodlands Train Checkpt can alight at Opp Marsiling Stn and take Sv856 & Sv950MRoute :
(East loop remains the same)
(West loop)
Woodlands Int
Woodlands Ave 5
Woodlands Ave 2
Woodlands Ave 1
Woodlands St 41
Woodlands Ave 1 (Fuchun CC)
Woodlands St 31 (Woodlands Polyclinic)
Woodlands Ave 3 (Opp Marsiling Stn)
Woodlands Ave 1
Woodlands St 41
Woodlands Ave 1
Woodlands Ave 2
Woodlands Ave 5
Woodlands Int
Intra-Town 913: Woodlands Int - Woodlands Circle & Ave 3 (loop)
- Enhance connectivity to Marsiling Stn
- Commuters along the East loop travelling to Woodlands Train Checkpt can alight at Woodlands Int and take Sv856 & Sv950M
- Commuters along the West loop travelling to Woodlands Train Checkpt can alight at Marsiling Stn and take Sv856 & Sv950M at Opp Marsiling StnRoute:
(East loop remains the same)
(West loop)
Woodlands Int
Woodlands Ave 5
Marsiling Rise
Marsiling Rd
Woodlands Ctr Rd (Marsiling Pr Sch)
Woodlands Ave 3 (Marsiling Stn)
Woodlands St 11 (Non-stop)
Woodlands St 13 (Blk 154)
Woodlands Ctr Rd (Non-stop)
Marsiling Rd
Marsiling Rise
Woodlands Ave 5
Woodlands IntNew Service 950M: Woodlands Int - Woodlands Ctr Rd (loop)
- Alternative service between Woodlands & Woodlands Train Checkpt
- Fleet consisting mixture of Rigid & High-capacity busesRoute:
Woodlands Int
Woodlands Ave 3
Woodlands Ctr Rd
Woodlands Ave 3
Woodlands Int
Old Woodlands will be gone, for expansion of Woodlands CIQ.
and hopefully 160, 170(X) and 950 will be mix rigid and DD fleet.
amend 903 as well to just loop at Marsiling Estate, take note that 912A loops at Woodlands St 41.
Originally posted by SBS3004X:Ok, but will this service not stop at Blk 531 bus stop? (The one currently only used by NR8)
No, it will serve the bus stop and the opposite bus stop, Opp Blk 532.
http://www.scribblemaps.com/maps/view/7Z64RuUBkO
375G/W
http://www.scribblemaps.com/maps/view/SzYjDxUrJ0
373 and 376
Originally posted by array88:I would not shift 23 to Tampines Concourse... It has quite good loading from Tampines Int and few alternative services.
Alternative can board opp Tampines Hub
Originally posted by SMB145B:Old Woodlands will be gone, for expansion of Woodlands CIQ.
and hopefully 160, 170(X) and 950 will be mix rigid and DD fleet.
amend 903 as well to just loop at Marsiling Estate, take note that 912A loops at Woodlands St 41.
Wait long2 got DD
http://www.scribblemaps.com/maps/view/oMXfApK6ZV
how 329 should have been constructed
Originally posted by SBS3004X:Repost: Feeder 943 (with bus stops included)
Underline: Road names
Bold: New bus stops
Italics: Looping point (will not call at bus stop opposite)
Bukit Batok Int - Bukit Batok West Ave 2/4 (Loop)
Bukit Batok Central
Block 628
Bukit Batok West Ave 3
Bukit Batok Polyclinic
Blk 140
Princess Elizabeth Pri Sch
Bukit Batok West Ave 8
Blk 445A
Blk 440 MSCP
Blk 438A
Bukit Batok West Ave 5
Opp Blk 467
Blk 303
Opp Blk 532
Opp Bukit Gombak Stn
Blk 347
Bukit Batok West Ave 7
Opp HomeTeamNS
Blk 334
Blk 406
Bukit Batok Rd
Blk 402
Bukit Batok West Ave 2
Bukit Batok Home For The Aged
Bukit Batok West Ave 4
Blk 419
Seems a bit too long when 945 / 947 are already doing the job at West Ave 2/4/5, and a merger is not suitable either. I think can cut at Bt Gombak MRT plus a loop around Bt Batok Rd. So like this:
(943)
In addition to this feeder, BB West area should have about 1-2 trunk services to link to nearby towns (Jurong East / CCK / Bt Panjang / Tengah). Some considerations are as follows:
(928)
(180)
(New service to Tengah)
(New / amended service for better link to Jurong East)
Other existing services mostly stay as they are.
Originally posted by carbikebus:23:Tampines Concourse Int-Queen Street Ter
Tampines Concourse Int
Tampines Ave 5-2 stops
Tampines Ave 1-5 stops
Bedok North Rd Etxn-Express
Bedok North Rd-1 stop
PIE
Jln Kolam Ayer-2 stops
Bendemeer Rd-5 stops
Jln Besar-3 stops
Queen St Ter
--------
Queen St Ter
Rochor Rd-1 stop
Rochor Canal Rd-1 stop
Serangoon Rd-8 stops
Jln Kolam Ayer-2 stops
PIE
Bedok North Rd-1 stop
Bedok North Rd Etxn-Express
Tampines Ave 1-5 stops
Tampines Ave 5-2 stops
Tampines Concourse Int
BCs get the chance to rest and relieve at Queen St,2 lots is enough.
Some people will tell you that the looping point @ Sim Lim is too vital to be removed. They told me that when i suggested Route 23 extend to Chinatown to make up for the lost links caused by the truncation of Routes 81 & 103.
Originally posted by AJQZC:Seems a bit too long when 945 / 947 are already doing the job at West Ave 2/4/5, and a merger is not suitable either. I think can cut at Bt Gombak MRT plus a loop around Bt Batok Rd. So like this:
(943)
- BB Int
- BB West Ave 3 (Poly, Blk 140, PEPS)
- BB West Ave 8 (Blk 445A, Blk 440)
- BB West Ave 6 (Blk 442A)
- BB Rd (Opp Blk 437)
- BB West Ave 5 (Opp Blk 435A, Opp Blk 467)
- BB St 31 (Blk 309)
- BB West Ave 5 (Bt Gombak MRT, Blk 531)
- Loop back
In addition to this feeder, BB West area should have about 1-2 trunk services to link to nearby towns (Jurong East / CCK / Bt Panjang / Tengah). Some considerations are as follows:
(928)
- BB Int
- BB West Ave 3 (Poly)
- BB West Ave 6 (Blk 451, Blk 461C)
- BB West Ave 8 (Blk 438A)
- BB West Ave 4 (Blk 419)
- BB West Ave 7 (Blk 406)
- BB Rd
- Brickland Rd
- CCK Grove
- Keat Hong Link
- CCK Ave 1
- * (merge with 308 and loop around CCK MRT, as with other merged cross-town feeders such as 3, 38, 60. Minimal duplication with feeder 943.)
(180)
- (Existing route from Boon Lay)
- BB Rd
- BB West Ave 6 / 8 / 5
- BB Rd
- (Existing route to BPJ)
- -
- ** (Between 160 and 180, only one route should be changed if need be, and with minimal amendments if possible)
(New service to Tengah)
(New / amended service for better link to Jurong East)
Other existing services mostly stay as they are.
Last time, BGB had 989, but it was merged with 185 to form 985. A short-lived variant 985W did ply BBT West Ave 5 full stretch though.
Originally posted by CZT:1. 902 will highly likely be withdrawn once TEL is up and runnning, unless LTA/SMRT still want it to serve as a complimentary service
2. idk exactly how to express myself for 950M, it seems like a good idea and a bad idea at the same time, like it kinda relieve the loading as serves as the most direct service to woodlands train checkpoint, but the thing is, correct me if im wrong, how many ppl would alight there? Can be a lot when the causeway is jammed and ppl would walk in, but i think there is a chance where not a lot of ppl will gonna use it, esp off peak periods?
Actually I'm a RP student. Actually once TEL start running, 902 i still important because most of the students travel to WDL via bus and usually take 902 to sch. The TEL station at WDL north its at one corner and very far from the main entrance. Students rather take from int as it nearer to the classes
I know this 858 issue has been discussed countless times, but I just had a rather insane idea.
Service 858: Woodlands - Changi Business Park
Woodlands Temp Int
(current 858 route to TPE)
Upp Changi Rd East
Expo Dr
Changi South Ave 1
Changi Business Pk Ave 1
Changi Business Pk Ctrl 1/2
Changi South Ave 1
Changi Business Park Ter
Service 958: Woodlands - Changi Airport (Loop)
Calls at the following bus stops only.
Woodlands Temp Int
Woodlands Ave 7
- opp Admiralty Stn / Admiralty Stn
Sembawang Way
- opp Sembawang Stn / Sembawang Stn
Canberra Rd (Express)
Sembawang Rd
- aft Sembawang Shop Ctr / opp Sembawang Shop Ctr
Yishun Ave 5
- opp Blk 701A / Blk 701
- Blk 145 / Blk 741
Yishun Ave 2
- opp Yishun Stn / Yishun Stn
- opp Khatib Stn / bef Khatib Stn
Lentor Ave (Express)
TPE
Jln Kayu
- bef Seletar Camp G / aft Seletar Camp G
TPE
- aft Punggol Rd / bef Punggol Rd
PIE (Express)
Airport Blvd
(calls at all bus stops)
... and loop at T3/T1/T2 and back.
Originally posted by AJQZC:Seems a bit too long when 945 / 947 are already doing the job at West Ave 2/4/5, and a merger is not suitable either. I think can cut at Bt Gombak MRT plus a loop around Bt Batok Rd. So like this:
(943)
- BB Int
- BB West Ave 3 (Poly, Blk 140, PEPS)
- BB West Ave 8 (Blk 445A, Blk 440)
- BB West Ave 6 (Blk 442A)
- BB Rd (Opp Blk 437)
- BB West Ave 5 (Opp Blk 435A, Opp Blk 467)
- BB St 31 (Blk 309)
- BB West Ave 5 (Bt Gombak MRT, Blk 531)
- Loop back
In addition to this feeder, BB West area should have about 1-2 trunk services to link to nearby towns (Jurong East / CCK / Bt Panjang / Tengah). Some considerations are as follows:
(928)
- BB Int
- BB West Ave 3 (Poly)
- BB West Ave 6 (Blk 451, Blk 461C)
- BB West Ave 8 (Blk 438A)
- BB West Ave 4 (Blk 419)
- BB West Ave 7 (Blk 406)
- BB Rd
- Brickland Rd
- CCK Grove
- Keat Hong Link
- CCK Ave 1
- * (merge with 308 and loop around CCK MRT, as with other merged cross-town feeders such as 3, 38, 60. Minimal duplication with feeder 943.)
(180)
- (Existing route from Boon Lay)
- BB Rd
- BB West Ave 6 / 8 / 5
- BB Rd
- (Existing route to BPJ)
- -
- ** (Between 160 and 180, only one route should be changed if need be, and with minimal amendments if possible)
(New service to Tengah)
(New / amended service for better link to Jurong East)
Other existing services mostly stay as they are.
Actually I did consider looping at BB Rd, but it will increase travelling time to BB MRT/Int.
The whole point of my route not looping around BB Rd was to give residents a choice between BB and Bt Gombak MRTs.
Originally posted by carbikebus:Wait long2 got DD
A lot of red masking tapes!
Originally posted by Waynechew1003:Actually I'm a RP student. Actually once TEL start running, 902 i still important because most of the students travel to WDL via bus and usually take 902 to sch. The TEL station at WDL north its at one corner and very far from the main entrance. Students rather take from int as it nearer to the classes
Hmm ok valid point then, maybe we will still have to see how things go in 2019 onwards then
Originally posted by array88:I know this 858 issue has been discussed countless times, but I just had a rather insane idea.
Service 858: Woodlands - Changi Business Park
Woodlands Temp Int
(current 858 route to TPE)
Upp Changi Rd East
Expo Dr
Changi South Ave 1
Changi Business Pk Ave 1
Changi Business Pk Ctrl 1/2
Changi South Ave 1
Changi Business Park Ter
Service 958: Woodlands - Changi Airport (Loop)
Calls at the following bus stops only.Woodlands Temp Int
Woodlands Ave 7
- opp Admiralty Stn / Admiralty Stn
Sembawang Way
- opp Sembawang Stn / Sembawang Stn
Canberra Rd (Express)
Sembawang Rd
- aft Sembawang Shop Ctr / opp Sembawang Shop Ctr
Yishun Ave 5
- opp Blk 701A / Blk 701
- Blk 145 / Blk 741
Yishun Ave 2
- opp Yishun Stn / Yishun Stn
- opp Khatib Stn / bef Khatib Stn
Lentor Ave (Express)
TPE
Jln Kayu
- bef Seletar Camp G / aft Seletar Camp G
TPE
- aft Punggol Rd / bef Punggol Rd
PIE (Express)
Airport Blvd
(calls at all bus stops)
... and loop at T3/T1/T2 and back.
not very confident wif your 958 idea thou... idk if ppl will complain anot haha
but ur new 858 i think its pretty ok leh, maybe consider to swap the routes, like shorten 858 to be more direct but stop at all stops along the way, while ur 958 (which i prefer to call it, let say 967) can make use of the winding route to changi business park
Originally posted by SMB145B:A lot of red masking tapes!
Where?
Originally posted by SMB145B:A lot of red masking tapes!
sorry could you explain urself? Thanks
Originally posted by TIB987K:Where?
to now i still don't know the reason why cross border services aren't given any high capacity buses.
someone mentioned there is a 150 buses limit. then due to the exchange rate between S$ and RM, the traffic on the Woodlands Crossing becomes very heavy. 170 alone had 40 KUBs, not counting 170X. we have also 160, 950 along with other buses on this very link.
Any 950 buses that call at opposite MSL will be full during peak hours. 856 which calls at WTCP will also be full at the same stop, despite it being a DD majority service. SMB315C had said to intro 950M between WDL and WTCP. note that transfers from any service at WTCP to bus services at WDL X-ing has a 45mins limit. is the majority doing such transfers?
The height limit at both WDL X-ing and BSI are both 4.5m at least. this certainly allows DDs on Cross Border Services. JB-rigged buses are required for such services. SPAD cannot allow DDs to be JB-rigged? LTA does not want DDs for Cross Border Services? the U-turn under Jalan Terbau is not 4.5m?
Originally posted by SMB145B:to now i still don't know the reason why cross border services aren't given any high capacity buses.
someone mentioned there is a 150 buses limit. then due to the exchange rate between S$ and RM, the traffic on the Woodlands Crossing becomes very heavy. 170 alone had 40 KUBs, not counting 170X. we have also 160, 950 along with other buses on this very link.
Any 950 buses that call at opposite MSL will be full during peak hours. 856 which calls at WTCP will also be full at the same stop, despite it being a DD majority service. SMB315C had said to intro 950M between WDL and WTCP. note that transfers from any service at WTCP to bus services at WDL X-ing has a 45mins limit. is the majority doing such transfers?
The height limit at both WDL X-ing and BSI are both 4.5m at least. this certainly allows DDs on Cross Border Services. JB-rigged buses are required for such services. SPAD cannot allow DDs to be JB-rigged? LTA does not want DDs for Cross Border Services? the U-turn under Jalan Terbau is not 4.5m?
I think SMB315C's suggestion of 950M is more to compensate for connection between Woodlands and WTCP, as he also suggested amending 911, 912, 913 to Marsiling MRT, skipping WTCP.