New Bus Services Announced by LTA/PTOs (Part 3)
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Took 12e from Tampines to NBR just now... was literally the only pax onboard throughout the journey and buses in the opposite direction had only ~10 pax on board. BC would remind everyone that just boarded that its express service and not the regular 12 and all immediately alighted...
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Is there by any chance that 974's revelation was an accident since everyone knows the route even before official press release and it is already being displayed on bus apps and JK Bus int?
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Originally posted by ND323F:
I'll be honest with you, TTS is giving LTA a lot of problems.
What problem?Care to share?Pm please
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Originally posted by Marvel68:
Is there by any chance that 974's revelation was an accident since everyone knows the route even before official press release and it is already being displayed on bus apps and JK Bus int?
Its another service 71. But the thing is, it will be launched after Chinese New Year :(_ Service 71 also likes to run parallel from Choa Chu Kang to Bukit Panjang, but what happens at the end - Bukit Panjang, maybe it will be Upper Bukit Timah Road, Dairy Farm Road, BKE, KJE, Woodlands Road and Choa Chu Kang Road. Shortening of service 67 may still be possible, but could not find the details.
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Express 12e like got 8 buses while 147e like got 7 buses
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They should have let 974 ply Pioneer Road North, instead of Jalan Bahar.
Pioneer Road North and Jalan Bahar are the 2 trunk roads that connect Jurong West (Pioneer, Gek Poh and Boon Lay) to the express way.
Considering Jalan Bahar already has 172 to Choa Chu Kang, the new bus to Choa Chu Kang (974) should have plied Pioneer Road North instead, to minimize duplication and optimize resources.
Furthermore, if the objective is to connect Bukit Panjang and Choa Chu Kang residents to Joo Koon, plying Pioneer Road North (straightaway) would be faster than to meander through Boon Lay Way.
No time to talk, but just sharing with you all what I feel.
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Originally posted by SG1131L:
They should have let 974 ply Pioneer Road North, instead of Jalan Bahar.
Pioneer Road North and Jalan Bahar are the 2 trunk roads that connect Jurong West (Pioneer, Gek Poh and Boon Lay) to the express way.
Considering Jalan Bahar already has 172 to Choa Chu Kang, the new bus to Choa Chu Kang (974) should have plied Pioneer Road North instead, to minimize duplication and optimize resources.
Furthermore, if the objective is to connect Bukit Panjang and Choa Chu Kang readers to Joo Koon, plying Pioneer Road North (straightaway) would be faster than to meander through Boon Lay Way.
No time to talk, but just sharing with you all what I feel.
172 and 974 cater to different parts within CCK town. 974 needs to be routed via Jalan Bahar otherwise will not connect to Boon Lay MRT - quite important to have this express link to CCK MRT as 172 takes quite some time.
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
172 and 974 cater to different parts within CCK town. 974 needs to be routed via Jalan Bahar otherwise will not connect to Boon Lay MRT - quite important to have this express link to CCK MRT as 172 takes quite some time.
You're right bro
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Originally posted by AJQZC:
Good route.
Though should I be disappointed that it didn't connect with 171 to become an express service between Jurong West -- CCK -- BPJ -- Yishun?
Same reason why you can't merge 171 with 180.
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Originally posted by ND323F:
I'll be honest with you, TTS is giving LTA a lot of problems.
Why am I so not surprised...
The honeymoon period is more or less over.
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it is puzzling that 974 does not utilize the BPITH. there are at least 3 empty berths. 2 for LRT Shuttle A & B and one empty. do they have other plan or can't squeeze any buses inside the small interchange? Anyone know?
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Originally posted by phillipC:
it is puzzling that 974 does not utilize the BPITH. there are at least 3 empty berths. 2 for LRT Shuttle A & B and one empty. do they have other plan or can't squeeze any buses inside the small interchange? Anyone know?
Not enough lots. Existing services already turning circles in the small interchange to look for lots
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Originally posted by ND323F:
I'll be honest with you, TTS is giving LTA a lot of problems.
Hahaha
First, Wong Tai Sin 106 on the EDS now 974 kena leaked
Not to mention the horrid maintenance on their buses
Also, the super loose runtimes which causes buses to take much longer to complete their journey compared to before BCM
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Originally posted by SBS2792K:
Hahaha
First, Wong Tai Sin 106 on the EDS now 974 kena leaked
Not to mention the horrid maintenance on their buses
Also, the super loose runtimes which causes buses to take much longer to complete their journey compared to before BCM
Wong Tai Sin? We ain't in Hong Kong, are we?
Anyway, I wonder what would have happened if TT had been given A24s for 106.
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Hear that the lta is going to put the bus route service 152 /164 but that is not considered yet from where still not planning on
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Originally posted by SBS2792K:
Hahaha
First, Wong Tai Sin 106 on the EDS now 974 kena leaked
Not to mention the horrid maintenance on their buses
Also, the super loose runtimes which causes buses to take much longer to complete their journey compared to before BCM
I thought the runtimes come from LTA and not TT?
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Originally posted by SBS2792K:
Hahaha
First, Wong Tai Sin 106 on the EDS now 974 kena leaked
Not to mention the horrid maintenance on their buses
Also, the super loose runtimes which causes buses to take much longer to complete their journey compared to before BCM
Their BOCC pay is super high.Whos Wong T S?
The shortage of bus issues,Mostly skip basic maintenance and go back depot at night then do.I notice Bt Batok svc that have many longer runtimes.
Technical team resign and recruit new ones most from CDE,SBST & SMRT.
30% BCs jump ship to SMRT or GAS after grabbing their bonuses.
Its the same everywhere,GAS run to SMRT,TTS,SBST while SBST run to TTS,SMRT..
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
Their BOCC pay is super high.Whos Wong T S?
The shortage of bus issues,Mostly skip basic maintenance and go back depot at night then do.I notice Bt Batok svc that have many longer runtimes.
Technical team resign and recruit new ones most from CDE,SBST & SMRT.
30% BCs jump ship to SMRT or GAS after grabbing their bonuses.
Its the same everywhere,GAS run to SMRT,TTS,SBST while SBST run to TTS,SMRT..
Wong Tai Sin is a bus terminus for Hong Kong's Sv106..
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all 147e layover at shenton way ter b4 start duty
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Originally posted by phillipC:
it is puzzling that 974 does not utilize the BPITH. there are at least 3 empty berths. 2 for LRT Shuttle A & B and one empty. do they have other plan or can't squeeze any buses inside the small interchange? Anyone know?
There’s the Gali Batu bus terminal, north of Bukit Panjang Temporary Bus Park, along Woodlands Road, replacing the temporary bus park, in around 2-3 years’ time.
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Would be better if 974 could be at Bukit Panjang Interchage while another existing service there moves over to Gali Batu Terminal.
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
172 and 974 cater to different parts within CCK town. 974 needs to be routed via Jalan Bahar otherwise will not connect to Boon Lay MRT - quite important to have this express link to CCK MRT as 172 takes quite some time.
974 does not really duplicate 172.
172 passengers are mainly those working at SCDF, Home Team, and Tengah Airbase.
Nonetheless, there is a sizeable number of passengers that take 172 to travel to/fro Jurong West and Choa Chu Kang; never alight at Jalan Bahar / Old Choa Chu Kang Road.
I agree, there’s a need to have this other connection between Jurong West and Choa Chu Kang as given the demand, one bus route is definitely not enough.
Besides 172, this bus service would also relieve the loading on 180.
In fact, I’m starting to understand the rationale for making 258 loop around Boon Lay Way instead of Boon Lay Bus Interchange. People will begin taking bus services like 258, 241, 179 and 99 to connect to 974.
In other words, 974 has the potential of improving the overall bus connection and relieving the loading of bus services in Jurong West.
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Originally posted by SG1131L:
974 does not really duplicate 172.
172 passengers are mainly those working at SCDF, Home Team, and Tengah Airbase.
Nonetheless, there is a sizeable number of passengers that take 172 to travel to/fro Jurong West and Choa Chu Kang; never alight at Jalan Bahar / Old Choa Chu Kang Road.
I agree, there’s a need to have this other connection between Jurong West and Choa Chu Kang as given the demand, one bus route is definitely not enough.
Besides 172, this bus service would also relieve the loading on 180.
In fact, I’m starting to understand the rationale of making 258 loop around Boon Lay Way instead of Boon Lay Bus Interchange. People will begin taking bus services like 258, 241, 179 and 99 to connect to 974.
In other words, 974 has the potential of improving the overall bus connection and relieving the loading of bus services in Jurong West.
I would say that the 974 has no net effect on 180 or 172. 180 was at the operational limits. Further growth in public transport usage and Bukit Batok West/Tengah would have been disastrous and if not for 974.
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Until there is the press release on LTA website or TT website, it is better to not anticipate the launch of bus service 974.
I have a feeling that 974 is not finalised or confirmed yet.
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Originally posted by SG1131L:
Until there is the press release on LTA website or TT website, it is better to not anticipate the launch of bus service 974.
I have a feeling that 974 is not finalised or confirmed yet.
delay due to political issues