That negatively funny British Bus
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Air-condition on L113 is cold in the morning, but somehow it is not cold in the afternoon... sometimes there's a smell of dust *cough*. Usually the air-con "board" on L113 is loose and there's air-con leakage.. so the back isn't cold. accompanied with vibration...
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I took TIB 1050 G on the day of free rides, 18 June 2000.Originally posted by TIB1186Z:Severe Parallax Error? Or the airconditioning ducts are originally built according to Malaysian Specs, which means that they do not have that industrial sized standing area, and the pitch is also larger than those we find in the S'pore ones, especially the ones at the back.
Another reason I could think of is the design is as such that some people, especially those old folks, do not want the AC blowing straight onto their head for fear of rheumatism problems, which is unlike us who want the full balst to cool down quickly. If you recall the AC ducts on the Habits, they are designed in such as weird manner for a similar reason, as I asked the TIBS guy in 2000 where the residents are treated to free rides in the neighbourhood as the Habits are first introduced. I could still remember the route was similar to the current 806, but express, and TIB1050 later appeared on 806 for some time.
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Yup I agree with you fully, since I always take a HAbit out in the morning. The AC is not cold to start with, but it is freezing. The Tibs MB0405 AC can be further improved by cancelling out some of the noise, in my opinion. The Climatic control for the SBST ones are quite good, not too cold and not too hot mostly, but I no longer trust that AC since NAtional Day 2001, where almost all the MB0405s SBST deployed to ferry participants to the stadium are not working and we have to pop the ventilation vents, or it is a terrible blizzard, esp. the CAC ones.Originally posted by oliver_yuen87:Air-condition on L113 is cold in the morning, but somehow it is not cold in the afternoon... sometimes there's a smell of dust *cough*. Usually the air-con "board" on L113 is loose and there's air-con leakage.. so the back isn't cold. accompanied with vibration...
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Hmm, TIB1186Z, you were a participant for NDP2001 that our school "volunteered" to be in? Today I got on SBS 3803G, it was rather warm.
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Yes, then? I didn't know that for so many years there is a shuttle from Bishan St. 22 to Natl Stadium nad so darn lucky to tickets for every year!Originally posted by SBS9818A:Hmm, TIB1186Z, you were a participant for NDP2001 that our school "volunteered" to be in? Today I got on SBS 3803G, it was rather warm.
That publicty event by our school had brought some interesting sights to the boring compund, esp. on Saturdays where you can see about 15 or so buses parked in the crammed parade square...such a nice experience to board a SBST bus just besides the canteen. Aren't you in it? I thought Sec 1 also participate? -
No lah, teacher called by index number, I "heng-heng" never kenna, the guys before and after me got chosen. I'm really lucky not to have suffered like you guys.Originally posted by TIB1186Z:Yes, then? I didn't know that for so many years there is a shuttle from Bishan St. 22 to Natl Stadium nad so darn lucky to tickets for every year!
That publicty event by our school had brought some interesting sights to the boring compund, esp. on Saturdays where you can see about 15 or so buses parked in the crammed parade square...such a nice experience to board a SBST bus just besides the canteen. Aren't you in it? I thought Sec 1 also participate? -
Never suffer lah, always got chance to see so many SBST buses parked near the stadium, so nice and those rusty fire traps or the Woodlands transport scania that the soldiers ride to the school in.Originally posted by SBS9818A:No lah, teacher called by index number, I "heng-heng" never kenna, the guys before and after me got chosen. I'm really lucky not to have suffered like you guys.
At the end, what matters to everyone is not the free bus rides or free pizzas or KFCs: The 2 CCA points is what it matters most!
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Volgren Bendy and the 12xx habits too.They use voith gearbox and engine gets heated up easily.They should be placed on some feeder services or trunk services that have no express parts.Originally posted by off_service:Lance 211's engine gets heated up easily. They should be deployed on short services or feeder services so they can rest faster and more frequently. Look at 1004R, you will know what I mean. -
How you know that the engine heats up easily? Voith gearbox was also deployed in first batch of habits, 1025E-1060C.Originally posted by SBS9810X:Volgren Bendy and the 12xx habits too.They use voith gearbox and engine gets heated up easily.They should be placed on some feeder services or trunk services that have no express parts.
Many of these are running great on 190 and Yishun feeders. -
Nope.They was using a Z 4hp 500 gearbox.When you are on those habits on 190 sit on the back seat and you'll feel the heat!Originally posted by BluBlur:How you know that the engine heats up easily? Voith gearbox was also deployed in first batch of habits, 1025E-1060C.
Many of these are running great on 190 and Yishun feeders. -
TIB 1024 H to TIB 1062 Y uses Voith.Originally posted by SBS9810X:Nope.They was using a Z 4hp 500 gearbox.When you are on those habits on 190 sit on the back seat and you'll feel the heat! -
The gearbox configuration of TIBS O405Gs vary a lot, it is getting confusing.
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Yes it is.Originally posted by SBS9818A:The gearbox configuration of TIBS O405Gs vary a lot, it is getting confusing.
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If 969 has Lance 211s,I'd rather go on a 168 vso and transfer into service 18.Originally posted by SBS9818A:Good to see Lance 211s on Sv. 969, imagine if it speeds on the highway faster than the SBST VSOs also plying somewhat the same route. -
Which sector are you referring to? Svc 168 stops opposite Tampines MRT and Century Square that are very close to Tampines Interchange, so there's no need to transfer to svc 18. For me, I would take svc 858 from Yishun to Seletar Camp gate and transfer to svc 168. Even the occasional MkIII is many times better than the LAnce 211sOriginally posted by SBS9810X:If 969 has Lance 211s,I'd rather go on a 168 vso and transfer into service 18. -
TIB1061A does not. TIBS like to vary the gearbox & EDS configuration of the habits a lot.Originally posted by off_service:TIB 1024 H to TIB 1062 Y uses Voith. -
You can take Sv. 168 to Sunplaza Park or opp Tampines MRT and walk to interchange from there. You'd waste one hour getting from Tampines to Bedok and back again.Originally posted by SBS9810X:If 969 has Lance 211s,I'd rather go on a 168 vso and transfer into service 18. -
Mk3 on service 168?Originally posted by TIB1186Z:Which sector are you referring to? Svc 168 stops opposite Tampines MRT and Century Square that are very close to Tampines Interchange, so there's no need to transfer to svc 18. For me, I would take svc 858 from Yishun to Seletar Camp gate and transfer to svc 168. Even the occasional MkIII is many times better than the LAnce 211s -
Yes, they get MK 3s as occasional sub buses.Originally posted by tranquilice:Mk3 on service 168? -
Oh no!! Time to avoid Sv. 168 whenever I see B10M Mk III buses!Originally posted by TIB1186Z:Which sector are you referring to? Svc 168 stops opposite Tampines MRT and Century Square that are very close to Tampines Interchange, so there's no need to transfer to svc 18. For me, I would take svc 858 from Yishun to Seletar Camp gate and transfer to svc 168. Even the occasional MkIII is many times better than the LAnce 211s -
NAh Nah Nah! There isn't anything concern with the gearbox towards the emission of heat. Basically, the engine for the Volgren Bendys and the Habits are almost similiar. Also, since the engine produces a lot of torque to power the whole bus, more heat is emitted by the engine.Originally posted by SBS9810X:Volgren Bendy and the 12xx habits too.They use voith gearbox and engine gets heated up easily.They should be placed on some feeder services or trunk services that have no express parts. -
I somehow have started to dislike Dennis Lance 211. From what I have observed from TIB 1016 G yesterday, I think that the engine compartment is painted in black colour. As a result, more heat is being radiated at the back of the bus, and thus causes the bus to warm up. Also, I feel that the alignment of the air-con outlets of Lance 211 are really bad!!! I need to do some counting b4 adjusting the air-con outlets, cos I afraid that I might adjust the wrong air-con outlet, and the person in front of me might bash me up.
Another thinig is Lance 211 does not have the power to blast like a Lance 245. This is because Lance 211 has only the mere 211 bhp, which I think that it couldn't overtake a Lance 245, which has 245 bhp. Even that some drivers find that a Lance 245 is better to be driven, than a Lance 211. One more thing!!! In the day, the air-con could not cool the internal of the bus. I wonder how could a Lance 211 makes passengers feel comfy in the bus. -
I agree. Not only the engine compartment of the LAnce 211 is painted black, almost the entire bottom is black, and the same goes for the Lance 245. In fact, most buses have black engine compartments, so that it is less likely to soot up apparently, and would make the engine more visible due to the contrast.Originally posted by SBS9816E:I somehow have started to dislike Dennis Lance 211. From what I have observed from TIB 1016 G yesterday, I think that the engine compartment is painted in black colour. As a result, more heat is being radiated at the back of the bus, and thus causes the bus to warm up. Also, I feel that the alignment of the air-con outlets of Lance 211 are really bad!!! I need to do some counting b4 adjusting the air-con outlets, cos I afraid that I might adjust the wrong air-con outlet, and the person in front of me might bash me up. Another thinig is Lance 211 does not have the power to blast like a Lance 245. This is because Lance 211 has only the mere 211 bhp, which I think that it couldn't overtake a Lance 245, which has 245 bhp. Even that some drivers find that a Lance 245 is better to be driven, than a Lance 211. One more thing!!! In the day, the air-con could not cool the internal of the bus. I wonder how could a Lance 211 makes passengers feel comfy in the bus.
I think what causes the heat build up is not the colour, it is the vents at the back, got so small and so few rear vents, sure heat up one. Moreover, somebody is out of their minds to mount a rear ad over the vents of a few Lance 245s, dunno what's the freaking logic behind this. -
Money purposes I suppose. I believe revenue for advertisements area heaps and heaps of money.Originally posted by TIB1186Z:I agree. Not only the engine compartment of the LAnce 211 is painted black, almost the entire bottom is black, and the same goes for the Lance 245. In fact, most buses have black engine compartments, so that it is less likely to soot up apparently, and would make the engine more visible due to the contrast.
I think what causes the heat build up is not the colour, it is the vents at the back, got so small and so few rear vents, sure heat up one. Moreover, somebody is out of their minds to mount a rear ad over the vents of a few Lance 245s, dunno what's the freaking logic behind this. -
Yeah wait until one or two Lance 245s start catching fires in the middle of the road and TIBS may then find that the money isn't really worth it, or the increased downtime when the engine overheats and the maintainance cost goes up. But heck, TIBS is selling those Brits already, so I think they are using them as trial purposes, and if there are no fires etc, they may consider installing them on the LAnce 211s. Can't imagine what will happen, it will be like adding fuel to the fireOriginally posted by off_service:Money purposes I suppose. I believe revenue for advertisements area heaps and heaps of money.