Originally posted by SMB128B:As long it's MAN I won't complain
What about Volvo B8L?
Citaro change to ZF,Install LCD Monitor and rear sliding door?
Originally posted by carbikebus:What about Volvo B8L?
Citaro change to ZF,Install LCD Monitor and rear sliding door?
When those happen then ask me again
Originally posted by SMB128B:When those happen then ask me again
Wakakaka
Today a few 974 trips packed with standees..It’s time to use some DDs.
Can lease 2 A95 and 2 B9TL from storage mah...556m contract why so stingy?GAS only get less than 500m yet they have 424 buses already TTS.
SG5999Z now with free wifi
Originally posted by carbikebus:SG5999Z now with free wifi
wow, SBST added free WiFi?
which route is it on?
Originally posted by ND323F:wow, SBST added free WiFi?
which route is it on?
7,And it does make sense compared to 291
Originally posted by JKYY:Anyone knows where the SMRT AMDEP B9TLs are at? Don't see it on services such as 169 and 854 anymore.
969.
Front view and back view of the Euro VI MAN at STK (from TeamJoyRiders' instagram).
Originally posted by carbikebus:Today a few 974 trips packed with standees..It’s time to use some DDs.
Can lease 2 A95 and 2 B9TL from storage mah...556m contract why so stingy?GAS only get less than 500m yet they have 424 buses already TTS.
The potential problems with leasing A95 to TTS could be that training of engineering staffs and maintain spare parts. This would not be very economical for only two buses.
I would think it is more desirable for the remaining two A95 to join the rest of the three operators. For TTS, it would be more practical if there are more B9TL or Enviro500 transferred to them.
Possible solutions if 974 needs DD:
1) 'Borrow' DDs from other services if the buses are meant to be deployed for one service. This would not be a big problem if the buses are under 'flexi-deployment'.
2) 'Transfer of buses among operators'. For operators with tonnes of spare buses (more DD than what is required), they can consider transferring some B9TL or Enviro500 to TTS. This can be the case if TTS does not have sufficient DDs.
On a side note, it will be nice to see MAN A95 assigned to TTS.
Just some of my thoughts. Please correct me if I am wrong and continue on this discussion.
Regards, Jonathan Leong CK
Originally posted by JonathanLeongCK:The potential problems with leasing A95 to TTS could be that training of engineering staffs and maintain spare parts. This would not be very economical for only two buses.
I would think it is more desirable for the remaining two A95 to join the rest of the three operators. For TTS, it would be more practical if there are more B9TL or Enviro500 transferred to them.
Possible solutions if 974 needs DD:
1) 'Borrow' DDs from other services if the buses are meant to be deployed for one service. This would not be a big problem if the buses are under 'flexi-deployment'.
2) 'Transfer of buses among operators'. For operators with tonnes of spare buses (more DD than what is required), they can consider transferring some B9TL or Enviro500 to TTS. This can be the case if TTS does not have sufficient DDs.
On a side note, it will be nice to see MAN A95 assigned to TTS.
Just some of my thoughts. Please correct me if I am wrong and continue on this discussion.
Regards, Jonathan Leong CK
If you don't know MAN A22 A24 & A95 has the same engine with A22 & A95 sharing the same power output at 320bhp while A24 is at 360bhp . All 3 models has the same MAN engine D2066 it the only difference in power output control via Ecu So TTS could actually lease some A95 because TTS has knowledge in maintaining MAN A22 which is identical to A95 just with 2 decks From a maintenance stand point it will be a small learning curve for TTS engineers but since they have base knowledge of MAN D2066 engine the need to learn how to maintain the chassis. just
Originally posted by JonathanLeongCK:The potential problems with leasing A95 to TTS could be that training of engineering staffs and maintain spare parts. This would not be very economical for only two buses.
I would think it is more desirable for the remaining two A95 to join the rest of the three operators. For TTS, it would be more practical if there are more B9TL or Enviro500 transferred to them.
Possible solutions if 974 needs DD:
1) 'Borrow' DDs from other services if the buses are meant to be deployed for one service. This would not be a big problem if the buses are under 'flexi-deployment'.
2) 'Transfer of buses among operators'. For operators with tonnes of spare buses (more DD than what is required), they can consider transferring some B9TL or Enviro500 to TTS. This can be the case if TTS does not have sufficient DDs.
On a side note, it will be nice to see MAN A95 assigned to TTS.
Just some of my thoughts. Please correct me if I am wrong and continue on this discussion.
Regards, Jonathan Leong CK
If they can maintain and repair MAN A22 then they can maintain the A95 as well.
But again their management want to prove that they’re the first operator to maximise 367 buses into 27 service.They cut cost but adding pressure to engineering team.Lets see how long can they do that with no running trips etc in case there is no buses ready for service.Full DD service like 78,98,143 & 334 spotted using SD during weekdays also.
Do you think GAS,SBST & SMRT is stupid enough to lease more buses and put on spare?Sure there’s a reason.
Originally posted by Formususeonly:If you don't know MAN A22 A24 & A95 has the same engine with A22 & A95 sharing the same power output at 320bhp while A24 is at 360bhp . All 3 models has the same MAN engine D2066 it the only difference in power output control via Ecu So TTS could actually lease some A95 because TTS has knowledge in maintaining MAN A22 which is identical to A95 just with 2 decks From a maintenance stand point it will be a small learning curve for TTS engineers but since they have base knowledge of MAN D2066 engine the need to learn how to maintain the chassis. just
Thanks for the info.
Under the current BCM model, is it possible for the exchange of buses between the operators?
I feel that the two spare MAN A95 will eventually be given to GAS or SBST. If so, either GAS or SBST will take in the SG5916M and SG5917K while transferring a few B9TL to TTS.
Originally posted by JonathanLeongCK:Thanks for the info.
Under the current BCM model, is it possible for the exchange of buses between the operators?
I feel that the two spare MAN A95 will eventually be given to GAS or SBST. If so, either GAS or SBST will take in the SG5916M and SG5917K while transferring a few B9TL to TTS.
Yes, it is possible. In fact, it is already happening. The exchange of buses between bus operators is the most ambitious crossover event in history.
Think about Tower Transit using SBS Transit’s Volvo B9TL and Mercedes-Benz Citaro and SMRT’s ADL E500 and MAN A22 for the Bulim bus package, and SBS Transit using SMRT’s MAN A22 and MAN A24 for the Seletar bus package.
Crossover events are becoming a common place as the Bus Contracting Model is progressively being implemented from the negotiated contracts to the actual contracts of 5-7 years.
Originally posted by JonathanLeongCK:Thanks for the info.
Under the current BCM model, is it possible for the exchange of buses between the operators?
I feel that the two spare MAN A95 will eventually be given to GAS or SBST. If so, either GAS or SBST will take in the SG5916M and SG5917K while transferring a few B9TL to TTS.
LTA did lease out some GAS B9TL to SMRT previously.
Service 974 has downroutes towards BP?
Spotted SG1010C starting svc at either BS27091 Opp Blk 271 CP or BS27101 Opp Westwood Sec..
Was onboard SBS6309Y when SG1010C on OFF SVC overtook the bus at BS21371 Blk 680C... DDU was on orange... later on when it reached BS27101 the DDU became blue, and SG1010C was spotted going into PIE. Later on, SBS6309Y caught up with SG1010C and SG1010C has 974 EDS on already... app also shows both bus within 1 min from each other...
While looking at SBS6309Y DDU, bus was 10 mins behind schedule... Waited for at least 15 mins before SBS6309Y came at Boon Lay...
I thought 974 freq is between 13-15 mins?
Surprisingly SMRT AMDEP build a new single lane brake test pit like the ones at all the new depots beside the refuelling area.
Originally posted by carbikebus:I thought 974 freq is between 13-15 mins?
Yar..but i think the headway between SBS6309Y and the front bus should be at least 20 mins... and the DDU onboard SBS6309Y was like orange full bar (i didnt notice the timing as i was not sitting in front).. the moment SG1010C commence service, the DDU became Blue full bar...
Originally posted by SMB42P:Yar..but i think the headway between SBS6309Y and the front bus should be at least 20 mins... and the DDU onboard SBS6309Y was like orange full bar (i didnt notice the timing as i was not sitting in front).. the moment SG1010C commence service, the DDU became Blue full bar...
Traffic condition?A few of 974 BCs already feedback that the service need DDs during peak hours.Yes at this rate TTS really need to lease 3-4 DDs.Even full DD svc like 78,79,98,143 & 334 spotted using SD for weekdays
Originally posted by carbikebus:Traffic condition?A few of 974 BCs already feedback that the service need DDs during peak hours.Yes at this rate TTS really need to lease 3-4 DDs.Even full DD svc like 78,79,98,143 & 334 spotted using SD for weekdays
Yar i guess its due to traffic condition.
Today also. SBS6324C and SBS6339K were about 8 mins away from each other, but SBS6339K was 12mins behind schedule when I boarded it. (Means SBS6324C is behind schedule as well).
According to schedule, SBS6339K was supposed to reach JKI at 1814hrs, depart JKI 1815hrs (1 min break). However, SBS6339K only reached JKI at around 1825hrs. At that time, SBS6324C just left JKI. Soon after alighting from SBS6339K, spotted SBS6347L going to 974 berth to pick pax while SBS6339K went for parking...
No doubt its 8 mins headway between SBS6324C and SBS6339K, SBS6339K had fully seated capacity from CCK all the way to Boon Lay...
Originally posted by SMB42P:Yar i guess its due to traffic condition.
Today also. SBS6324C and SBS6339K were about 8 mins away from each other, but SBS6339K was 12mins behind schedule when I boarded it. (Means SBS6324C is behind schedule as well).
According to schedule, SBS6339K was supposed to reach JKI at 1814hrs, depart JKI 1815hrs (1 min break). However, SBS6339K only reached JKI at around 1825hrs. At that time, SBS6324C just left JKI. Soon after alighting from SBS6339K, spotted SBS6347L going to 974 berth to pick pax while SBS6339K went for parking...
No doubt its 8 mins headway between SBS6324C and SBS6339K, SBS6339K had fully seated capacity from CCK all the way to Boon Lay...
Both 6324C 6339K were also around 8-10mins apart around the afternoon.. The back bus was 22mins behind these two..
Yesterday got SBS3T on Service 3 :)
Got SG5909J and SG5915R on Service 12 also. Not sure about SG5920A, seen at Pasir Ris Int. SG5909J went for lunch break leaving Pasir Ris Int at 12.30pm.