wad do u tink...

• alwaysdisturbed

  11 Aug 03, 00:32

  nwadays i'm encounterin more n more buses (sbs n tibs) wif problems in their air conditionin system....the air dat comes out is nt cold at all....
  practically hot air bcoz of the engine heat.....
  
  i tink they shldn't even put these buses in service....
  its already so hot in sg esp in the aftn, creatin a hell of a time n u can't open the windows!
  when u get dwn u feel dat air outside is so much cooler.....
• off_service

  11 Aug 03, 08:47

  Originally posted by alwaysdisturbed:

  nwadays i'm encounterin more n more buses (sbs n tibs) wif problems in their air conditionin system....the air dat comes out is nt cold at all....
  practically hot air bcoz of the engine heat.....
  
  i tink they shldn't even put these buses in service....
  its already so hot in sg esp in the aftn, creatin a hell of a time n u can't open the windows!
  when u get dwn u feel dat air outside is so much cooler.....

  Well, buses or part of them will break down from time to time and the percentage is on the rise as now there are more air conditioned buses on the road.
  
  I agree that bus companies should call the bus back for maintainence. However, whether they have enough buses to cover all the buses back at the depot is one problem.
  
  As for 12m buses and single deck buses, it is easier to for the bus captain or service captain (Tibs) to be aware of the problem. However, for double decker buses and Bendy Buses, the problems often lie with the upper deck and the trailer where the driver seldom goes to.
  
  Sometimes even for a normal bus, the driver seldom go to the back of the bus and most of the time the bus has it's engine off or the bus is stationary so it's almost impossible for them to note the problem.
  
  To solve this problem, the best way is to feedback to the respective bus company and / or driver about the condition of the bus. You can also approach staffs of each bus company at respective interchanges. However, please note down the date, time, service number and the bus registration number. These are few important information for the company to call back the involved bus.
• TIB1186Z

  11 Aug 03, 13:21

  Originally posted by alwaysdisturbed:

  nwadays i'm encounterin more n more buses (sbs n tibs) wif problems in their air conditionin system....the air dat comes out is nt cold at all....
  practically hot air bcoz of the engine heat.....
  
  i tink they shldn't even put these buses in service....
  its already so hot in sg esp in the aftn, creatin a hell of a time n u can't open the windows!
  when u get dwn u feel dat air outside is so much cooler.....

  Some of the buses already have inherent air-conditioning problems due to bad or faulty design like the TIBS Lance 211s
• SBS9818A

  11 Aug 03, 17:23

  Originally posted by TIB1186Z:

  Some of the buses already have inherent air-conditioning problems due to bad or faulty design like the TIBS Lance 211s

  Rubbish. Lance 211 air-cons are generally in good condition. Rather cold. Hot award goes to Mk IIIs and O405s.
• BluBlur

  11 Aug 03, 23:30

  Originally posted by SBS9818A:

  Rubbish. Lance 211 air-cons are generally in good condition. Rather cold. Hot award goes to Mk IIIs and O405s.

  Tend to agree with you. The Lances' problem is more of the bodywork design (aircon ducting too high up).
  
  (IMO) For TIBS, the warmest will be those CAC 0405s. For SBS, I'm quite certain that the B10M MkIV (Strider) are incubators, in the hot hours of the day. It seems it is due to the engine easily overheating (engine/radiator making terrible loud howling sounds, like 2603Z).
• TIB1186Z

  12 Aug 03, 10:13

  Originally posted by BluBlur:

  Tend to agree with you. The Lances' problem is more of the bodywork design (aircon ducting too high up).
  
  (IMO) For TIBS, the warmest will be those CAC 0405s. For SBS, I'm quite certain that the B10M MkIV (Strider) are incubators, in the hot hours of the day. It seems it is due to the engine easily overheating (engine/radiator making terrible loud howling sounds, like 2603Z).

  I tend to disagree. Maybe u can visit Yishun Interchange and take a photo of the "condensation gradient" of the Lance 211s. The front is all fogged up, but at the back it is clear like crystal and not a drop of condensation
  
  On the other hand, the ELBOs CAC have one of the worst aircons
• SBS9818A

  12 Aug 03, 17:06

  Originally posted by BluBlur:

  Tend to agree with you. The Lances' problem is more of the bodywork design (aircon ducting too high up).
  
  (IMO) For TIBS, the warmest will be those CAC 0405s. For SBS, I'm quite certain that the B10M MkIV (Strider) are incubators, in the hot hours of the day. It seems it is due to the engine easily overheating (engine/radiator making terrible loud howling sounds, like 2603Z).

  Yes, TIBS CAC O405s are horrible. The loud howls on Strider B10Ms are due to the fanbelt, poor maintainance obviously. I agree their aircon is also very warm, but O405s take the cake!
  
  Coldest a/c has to be Scania N113CRB.
• SBS9818A

  12 Aug 03, 17:08

  Originally posted by TIB1186Z:

  I tend to disagree. Maybe u can visit Yishun Interchange and take a photo of the "condensation gradient" of the Lance 211s. The front is all fogged up, but at the back it is clear like crystal and not a drop of condensation
  
  On the other hand, the ELBOs CAC have one of the worst aircons

  If I sit at the back and find the a/c cold enough, don't argue. It's the problem of the air-con design, stop blaming the Lance 211s for everything!
• BluBlur

  12 Aug 03, 20:59

  Originally posted by TIB1186Z:

  I tend to disagree. Maybe u can visit Yishun Interchange and take a photo of the "condensation gradient" of the Lance 211s. The front is all fogged up, but at the back it is clear like crystal and not a drop of condensation
  
  On the other hand, the ELBOs CAC have one of the worst aircons

  Good observation by you.
  
  However, I'd stand by my words that it's more of the bodywork design. The back is warmer than the front probably because of the seating density, and the seating used. After a while passengers may feel uncomfortable/cold sweat because of this.
  
  Additional vents may help, but it depends on whether TIBS wants to spend money to hack the ducts open.