Tridents
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I personally find that SBST fleet of Dennis Tridents shake left and right too much when the bus is in motion, making everyone especially those on the upper deck uncomfortable. I have take tridents on service 51 numerous time and compared to other model of superbuses, tridents shake the most. It felt like the bus has lost its balance.
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I find that Tridents give the most comfort of all double-decks I've taken.Originally posted by tranquilice:I personally find that SBST fleet of Dennis Tridents shake left and right too much when the bus is in motion, making everyone especially those on the upper deck uncomfortable. I have take tridents on service 51 numerous time and compared to other model of superbuses, tridents shake the most. It felt like the bus has lost its balance. -
I agree....the suspension is rather well-maintained and well-damped, except, quaoting SBS9819Y, seats that "train your postureOriginally posted by SBS9818A:I find that Tridents give the most comfort of all double-decks I've taken. -
VSO also have such seats.Originally posted by TIB1186Z:I agree....the suspension is rather well-maintained and well-damped, except, quaoting SBS9819Y, seats that "train your posture
Maybe everyone felt different while on the same bus, my feeling is that the tridents I have taken before on services 51 and 85 sway left and right. -
The seats are more comfortable on a Trident than a VSO. Maybe I'm just biased! Sound quality is much better than that of a VSO, obviously.
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IMO, VSO seats are much more comfortable than those on Tridents. At least you are able to slouch on VSOs. VSOs would be sleep-inducing buses if not for the sheer amplitude of longitudinal waves from the engine!Originally posted by SBS9818A:The seats are more comfortable on a Trident than a VSO. Maybe I'm just biased! Sound quality is much better than that of a VSO, obviously. -
Trident can sleep because it's so smooth and quiet. I actually fell asleep on 9690A. VSOs ah, too noisy, however there's an exception, me and 9816E both fell asleep on 9821P, maybe because the driver was driving TOO SLOWLY and the a/c was too cold.Originally posted by SBS9819Y:IMO, VSO seats are much more comfortable than those on Tridents. At least you are able to slouch on VSOs. VSOs would be sleep-inducing buses if not for the sheer amplitude of longitudinal waves from the engine! -
I agree. VSOs are much nicer to sleep in! I always fall asleep in VSOs, with exception of SBS 9888 Y.Originally posted by SBS9819Y:IMO, VSO seats are much more comfortable than those on Tridents. At least you are able to slouch on VSOs. VSOs would be sleep-inducing buses if not for the sheer amplitude of longitudinal waves from the engine! -
I swear this is true, I really like Dennis Trident than VSO, because, of the comfort and speed of the bus. VSO gear are much slower than the trident. Dennis Trident does not shake at all when in motion, I didn't feel it at all. -
PT21 :
Sorry but I have to disagree with you because Trident is definately very shakey at times and also speed of VSO is all depends on the driver whether they step a lot during acceleration .I like both buses through . -
So in that case, ask SBST to transfer all the 20 units of Trident to Jurong lor, because buses at Jurong are alway very lously and hopeless. -
Same here. After all a Trident is still more powerful than a VSO.Originally posted by PT21:
I swear this is true, I really like Dennis Trident than VSO, because, of the comfort and speed of the bus. VSO gear are much slower than the trident. Dennis Trident does not shake at all when in motion, I didn't feel it at all. -
In all my travels on Tridents I have never experienced shakiness. Speed of VSO is not dependent on driver, they can only hit 60 max, no matter how hard they step on the accelerator, while TIBS O405Gs zoom by struggling VSOs along the TPE. My guess is that a Trident would do much better.Originally posted by Airbus330Captain:PT21 :
Sorry but I have to disagree with you because Trident is definately very shakey at times and also speed of VSO is all depends on the driver whether they step a lot during acceleration .I like both buses through . -
Yes I agree....the Volgren Hinos have a much less critically damped suspension system....some are famous for the "floating" feeling, but all the DDs in general are rather stable because of their weight, including Tridents...the Cummins engine with Voiths make rather smooth rides.Originally posted by SBS9818A:In all my travels on Tridents I have never experienced shakiness. Speed of VSO is not dependent on driver, they can only hit 60 max, no matter how hard they step on the accelerator, while TIBS O405Gs zoom by struggling VSOs along the TPE. My guess is that a Trident would do much better.
SBS9846T is capable of matching up with the TIBS Bendys, and definitely its little kid brothers from the same countries. But a Trident with more horsepower would do better, but I don't know as I havent' experience it yet.
Too bad i could not say the same for its kid brother in yellow livery....I looked at the speedometer from Dunearn Rd to Marymount and the needle could not even reach 55kmh though the driver was flooring the pedal already....surprising the rear is not even cool though it was raining and the temperature was set at 24 degrees. -
In my opinion, I think that Tridents are rather smooth buses, as in switching of gears, accelerating, and decelerating. VSOs are rather loud, especially the sound of the radiator+engine. I would never fall asleep on a Trident as I feel rather energize by its smooth 'sailing' on the road. Talking about suspension, I feel that both buses' suspension are designed to suit different types of road conditions. Volvo has their own way, while Dennis has their own way too.
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The kid brother in yellow livery hit 70km/h along Lentor Ave, mind you. 9846T, I'm not too sure, but I know 9843B was like a snail along the TPE.Originally posted by TIB1186Z:Yes I agree....the Volgren Hinos have a much less critically damped suspension system....some are famous for the "floating" feeling, but all the DDs in general are rather stable because of their weight, including Tridents...the Cummins engine with Voiths make rather smooth rides.
SBS9846T is capable of matching up with the TIBS Bendys, and definitely its little kid brothers from the same countries. But a Trident with more horsepower would do better, but I don't know as I havent' experience it yet.
Too bad i could not say the same for its kid brother in yellow livery....I looked at the speedometer from Dunearn Rd to Marymount and the needle could not even reach 55kmh though the driver was flooring the pedal already....surprising the rear is not even cool though it was raining and the temperature was set at 24 degrees. -
Yeah and while the bus is at 70km/h the entire interior resembles a magnitute 7.5 earthquake so it is still very advisable for the driver to keep the bus 40km/h and below.Originally posted by SBS9818A:The kid brother in yellow livery hit 70km/h along Lentor Ave, mind you. -
Not really. Quite smooth ride I had on 1009C.Originally posted by AntiDennisLance:Yeah and while the bus is at 70km/h the entire interior resembles a magnitute 7.5 earthquake so it is still very advisable for the driver to keep the bus 40km/h and below. -
BTW, do you know why you don't see TIB1009C this week on svc 852? The schedule and deployment for svc 852 and 853 is unstable this wk, and TIB1013P had replaced for TIB1009C for this week. I guess that the bus had finally broken down, because it had very apparent problems for the past few wks, and required turbo and a gear drop to climb the meagre Lornie Flyover.......u still say its smooth, and I cun ever pick up the reatarder on the LAnce 211...if it exists at all...it stops on brute brake power and the motion of objects in it approaches ideality as much of the force is effectively transferred as a resultOriginally posted by SBS9818A:Not really. Quite smooth ride I had on 1009C. -
Yes, the optimum sleep-conducive seats are about 3-4 rows from the stairs towards the rear....the noise of the B10TL and the radiator noise is most tolerable at those seats, and i never fail to fall asleep when i take it from one end to the other along the expressway, plus the nice reclined angle of the seatsOriginally posted by off_service:I agree. VSOs are much nicer to sleep in! I always fall asleep in VSOs, with exception of SBS 9888 Y. -
Well, it goes fast enough without any shaking or vibrating. Any bus with a ZF would have a retarder.Originally posted by TIB1186Z:BTW, do you know why you don't see TIB1009C this week on svc 852? The schedule and deployment for svc 852 and 853 is unstable this wk, and TIB1013P had replaced for TIB1009C for this week. I guess that the bus had finally broken down, because it had very apparent problems for the past few wks, and required turbo and a gear drop to climb the meagre Lornie Flyover.......u still say its smooth, and I cun ever pick up the reatarder on the LAnce 211...if it exists at all...it stops on brute brake power and the motion of objects in it approaches ideality as much of the force is effectively transferred as a result