Fully Air-Conditioned Bus Fleet
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I think I remember that SBS Transit once set a target to fully air-condition its buses by 2003 or 2004? Either way, it doesn't look like it's going to meet its goal with still so many non-air-conditioned DD buses...
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We'll never know. SBST may have plans to sell the VO 2 axles and accquire new buses. A VO 2 axles have been sold over to the UK.Originally posted by foxtrot1985:I think I remember that SBS Transit once set a target to fully air-condition its buses by 2003 or 2004? Either way, it doesn't look like it's going to meet its goal with still so many non-air-conditioned DD buses...
I believe the NAC buses will be sold off soon leaving only the aircon / refurbished buses. We will see as time goes by. -
i thought they bought it rather recently... think just before they announce they will air-condition their whole fleet of buses, they bought these VO2-AX... aniwae think they too much money to spare liao...buy buses and then sell them <5 years later..
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The VO 2 axles are bought in year 1995 - 1996.Originally posted by foxtrot1985:i thought they bought it rather recently... think just before they announce they will air-condition their whole fleet of buses, they bought these VO2-AX... aniwae think they too much money to spare liao...buy buses and then sell them <5 years later..
Same case for Tibs' Dennis Lance 245s. They were bought in 1998 but now they are looking for buyers.
One question I'm always asking myself, why is SBST so reluctant to introduce aircon buses on Jurong Industrial Services. -
SBS danm stupid, Industrial service is a good chance to make money man...
Every morning I saw every industrial service fully pack with worker and people going to work. If they make it as air con service, sure business is and profit is better than Tibs. Hai..... So stupid rights. -
SBST also likes to deplot lousier buses on industrial services as with student services, cos they earn less on the trip due to industrial fare.Originally posted by PT21:
SBS danm stupid, Industrial service is a good chance to make money man...
Every morning I saw every industrial service fully pack with worker and people going to work. If they make it as air con service, sure business is and profit is better than Tibs. Hai..... So stupid rights.
However, as the LO-2Ax are phased out, SBST seems to have a lack of buses to deploy, considering that not all the VO-2Ax had been transferred over. Hence, we can now frequently see AC buses on industrial svcs, such as svc 182. Svc 182 often has MB0405s and I've even sighted a MK4 DM3500 on it before. -
Yup.. SBS Transit did mention that they would want their fleet to be fully air-conditioned a few years later. However, by looking at this stage, whereby the LO 2 Axle are being phased off, SBST would almost have insufficient number of buses to cover the Jurong Industrial Svcs. As a result, I think SBST would still keep the VO 2 Axle and Volvo Mk 2, since the number of buses in depots are really insufficient to supply demands for every services.
According to such pattern, I think SBST would have a full air-con fleet by maybe 2006 - 2007. -
First to leave the fleet would be NAC B10M Mk IIs, most likely next year, as 200 Mk IIs await to be replaced in 2005. And in 2005 as well, NAC N113CRBs will make their way out of the fleet. According to this, NAC buses of models awaiting to be replaced will leave the fleet first, with the CAC/OAC models retained to be replaced later.Originally posted by SBS9816E:Yup.. SBS Transit did mention that they would want their fleet to be fully air-conditioned a few years later. However, by looking at this stage, whereby the LO 2 Axle are being phased off, SBST would almost have insufficient number of buses to cover the Jurong Industrial Svcs. As a result, I think SBST would still keep the VO 2 Axle and Volvo Mk 2, since the number of buses in depots are really insufficient to supply demands for every services.
According to such pattern, I think SBST would have a full air-con fleet by maybe 2006 - 2007. -
they should seriously control their temperatures.
Like keeping 20 deg to 20 deg.
Their air con system should learn to take into account of the weather temperature as well. -
Service 182 is considered trunk service, not Jurong industrial service (JIS), which explains the deployment of air con buses on this service. JIS are 246, 249 and 25x.Originally posted by TIB1186Z:SBST also likes to deplot lousier buses on industrial services as with student services, cos they earn less on the trip due to industrial fare.
However, as the LO-2Ax are phased out, SBST seems to have a lack of buses to deploy, considering that not all the VO-2Ax had been transferred over. Hence, we can now frequently see AC buses on industrial svcs, such as svc 182. Svc 182 often has MB0405s and I've even sighted a MK4 DM3500 on it before. -
Why is services 182, 192 and 193 introduced as trunk services? Shouldn't they be Jurong industrial services (JIS)? Or why don't the JIS be converted to trunk services?Originally posted by off_service:The VO 2 axles are bought in year 1995 - 1996.
Same case for Tibs' Dennis Lance 245s. They were bought in 1998 but now they are looking for buyers.
One question I'm always asking myself, why is SBST so reluctant to introduce aircon buses on Jurong Industrial Services. -
Trunk services are using distance-related fares, JIS uses flat-fare system.Originally posted by tranquilice:Why is services 182, 192 and 193 introduced as trunk services? Shouldn't they be Jurong industrial services (JIS)? Or why don't the JIS be converted to trunk services? -
In any case, TIBS beat them to it. TIB's intended target for full airconditionisation was by 2008. They met it in 2002/2003.Originally posted by foxtrot1985:I think I remember that SBS Transit once set a target to fully air-condition its buses by 2003 or 2004? Either way, it doesn't look like it's going to meet its goal with still so many non-air-conditioned DD buses... -
erm yep... sbs transit set an earlier target than tibs and doesn't look like it will meet it for now... anyway, just wondering... why doesn't tibs purchase double-deckered buses?
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Then you should be thinking why SBST wanted to sell SBS 999 U (Mercedes Benz O405G) and stopped buying articulated buses. They are keeping SBS 998 Y as it is the longest bus.Originally posted by foxtrot1985:erm yep... sbs transit set an earlier target than tibs and doesn't look like it will meet it for now... anyway, just wondering... why doesn't tibs purchase double-deckered buses? -
JIS does not use flat-fare system per se. It is fare stage based, but rates are much cheaper.Originally posted by off_service:Trunk services are using distance-related fares, JIS uses flat-fare system. -
Why partially convert the fleet to air-con and some never convert??Originally posted by SBS9818A:First to leave the fleet would be NAC B10M Mk IIs, most likely next year, as 200 Mk IIs await to be replaced in 2005. And in 2005 as well, NAC N113CRBs will make their way out of the fleet. According to this, NAC buses of models awaiting to be replaced will leave the fleet first, with the CAC/OAC models retained to be replaced later. -
They like what.Originally posted by oliver_yuen87:Why partially convert the fleet to air-con and some never convert?? -
Could be that SBST needs only the number of additional aircon buses. Taken into consideration could be the costs of installing aircon units on the NAC buses.Originally posted by oliver_yuen87:Why partially convert the fleet to air-con and some never convert?? -
And the additional weight on the chassis.Originally posted by off_service:Could be that SBST needs only the number of additional aircon buses. Taken into consideration could be the costs of installing aircon units on the NAC buses. -
According to a past newspaper comment by TIBS, it was because bendy buses would better cater to the needs of the rapidly aging population in Singapore.Originally posted by foxtrot1985:erm yep... sbs transit set an earlier target than tibs and doesn't look like it will meet it for now... anyway, just wondering... why doesn't tibs purchase double-deckered buses?
Maybe if Volvo has their equivalent of the 0405G, maybe SBST may buyit :p -
This is rather true. More elderly move to the rear of a Bendy Bus, compared to the number of elderly moving to the upper deck of a double decker bus.Originally posted by TIB1186Z:According to a past newspaper comment by TIBS, it was because bendy buses would better cater to the needs of the rapidly aging population in Singapore.
Maybe if Volvo has their equivalent of the 0405G, maybe SBST may buyit :p -
B10MAs like 998Y lohz, just hope the body they choose isn't just as ugly. Yes, old folks indeed find it a hindrance to climb up and down steps, especially in double-decks where they have to clamber down before their stop when the bus is moving.Originally posted by TIB1186Z:According to a past newspaper comment by TIBS, it was because bendy buses would better cater to the needs of the rapidly aging population in Singapore.
Maybe if Volvo has their equivalent of the 0405G, maybe SBST may buyit :p -
A bit side topic here...
The Volvo B10M Superlong (SBS997A) is 14.5m right? And its rear is 'tapered' like its sister, the Volvo B10MA (SBS998Y).
The question is...
I've seen other 14.5m Superlong buses, such as in Australia and the Europe, but such buses doesn't have a tapered rear. Why so for SBS997A and not the foreign buses?
Cheers and warm regards -
Australia and European Roads are much less congested and more spaced out compared to busy Asian cosmopolitians such as Singapore and Hong Kong. As such, the tapered end helps to clear the traffic lights poles which are forced to be situated very near the kerb side, hence 997A, with a hge turning radius, may need that extra help to allow it to turn easily.Originally posted by Superbus:A bit side topic here...
The Volvo B10M Superlong (SBS997A) is 14.5m right? And its rear is 'tapered' like its sister, the Volvo B10MA (SBS998Y).
The question is...
I've seen other 14.5m Superlong buses, such as in Australia and the Europe, but such buses doesn't have a tapered rear. Why so for SBS997A and not the foreign buses?
Cheers and warm regards