Phase 4 of CCL (Coming soon too!)
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Service 28 may be withdrawn, the route between Tampines and Bedok may be covered by another existing service.Originally posted by service_238:As to what I see, here are my suggestions for the Bus route amendments/withdrawals for CCL.
Service 24: Withdrawal (Services 22, 28, 2 can cover the withdrawn sector) However, no bus service can cover the Tenah Merah - Airport sector. (If only Svc 34 was around)
Service 70: Withdrawal (Services 163, 103, 22, 197, 196 can cover withdrawn sector) OR Amended to serve Yio Chu Kang - Serangoon.
Service 93: Withdrawal (Services 61, 855, 157, 13, 28 can cover the withdrawn sector) OR Amended to serve HarbourFront - Farrer Rd (Loop)
It seems a little tricky to amend the routes along Upp Paya Lebar Rd & Paya Lebar Rd because there's very few connecting roads to the road itself.. However, Svc 22 76 80 may be amended to serve elsewhere.
For the western side of CCL, I'd agree that Svc 165 855 will be amended or cut short. But i wonder how SBST & TIBS are going to handle this.
Service 24 between Tanah Merah and Changi Airport will be covered by CAL. While between Tanah Merah and Expo will be covered by services 12, 38 and CAL. While between Tanah Merah and Upp Changi Rd East will be by service 2.
Ang Mo Kio St 64/65/Ave 9 now covered by service 70, may be served by propose-to-amend service 86.
Service 80 may be withdrawn, it has little chance of being amended as Sengkang and Hougang passengers can take the NEL to Serangoon and transfer to CCL.
However, at least one service need to be retained to ply the stretch of Upp Paya Lebar Rd between Upp Serangoon Rd and Bartley Rd not served by CCL, which may be services 22 or 76. -
SBST have said they are going to cause a lot of problems if they withdraw Sv. 80 as it's the only service for Geylang residents to take to town.
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One service currently plying Geylang Rd/Sims Ave can be diverted into Geylang East Central.Originally posted by SBS9818A:SBST have said they are going to cause a lot of problems if they withdraw Sv. 80 as it's the only service for Geylang residents to take to town.
When service 864 was integrated in 1999, passengers along Geylang Rd/Sims Ave (between Aljunied MRT and Paya Lebar MRT) lose their direct link to Hougang Central and Sengkang, they have to walk to Geylang East Central for service 80. -
Sv. 2 could be a possible candidate.Originally posted by tranquilice:One service currently plying Geylang Rd/Sims Ave can be diverted into Geylang East Central.
When service 864 was integrated in 1999, passengers along Geylang Rd/Sims Ave (between Aljunied MRT and Paya Lebar MRT) lose their direct link to Hougang Central and Sengkang, they have to walk to Geylang East Central for service 80. -
Yes, then service 80 may be withdrawn after the link between Geylang East and Chinatown is maintain by proposed service 2.Originally posted by SBS9818A:Sv. 2 could be a possible candidate. -
my proposals. phase 2 haven't thought through quite properly yet.
CIRCLE LINE PHASE I (DBG-MSM-CVC-MLN-NCH-SDM)
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SERVICE 11: Withdrawn. Integrates with SBST 70.
SERVICE 16: Skips Stadium Drive and Stadium Boulevard by travelling via Mountbatten Rd.
SERVICE 36: Unchanged.
SERVICE 56: Withdrawn. Withdrawn route covered by SBST 54 and 88, MRT and NEL.
SERVICE 70: Cut back to operate between Yio Chu Kang Ter and Stadium CCL, looping at Stadium Boulevard via Nicoll Highway, Stadium Drive, Stadium Boulevard, Mountbatten Rd and Guillemard Rd for link to Stadium CCL Station.
SERVICE 75: Cut back to operate between Bt Panjang Int and Robinson Rd (AIA Bldg) in "towards city" direction, then parking at Shenton Way Ter. Operates between Shenton Way Ter and Bt Panjang Int in "from city" direction via Palmer Rd, Anson Rd, Cecil St, (Church St, Finlayson Green), Raffles Quay, Shenton Way and Cantonment Link/Rd.
SERVICE 77: Unchanged.
SERVICE 97: Cut back to operate between Jurong East Int and HarbourFront Int. Withdrawn route covered by Tanjong Pagar and Raffles Place MRT stations, and Convention Centre and Millenia CCL stations.
SERVICE 106: Amended to operate between Bt Batok Int and Dhoby Ghaut MRT (loop at Bencoolen St).
SERVICE 107: Cut short to operate between Hougang Central Int and Bugis MRT, looping via Beach Rd (Nicoll Highway CCL), Rochor Rd, Victoria St (Bugis MRT), Ophir Rd, then Beach Rd.
SERVICE 111: Amended to operate between Ghim Moh Ter and Dhoby Ghaut MRT (loop at Bencoolen St).
SERVICE 133: Unchanged.
SERVICE 162: Withdrawn. Withdrawn route in Bishan North and Sin Ming covered by SBST 410.
SERVICE 171: Amended to ply Temasek Boulevard and Temasek Ave for link to Millenia CCL Station on direction towards Marina Centre.
SERVICE 502: Amended to operate between Boon Lay Int and Dhoby Ghaut MRT (loop at Bencoolen St).
SERVICE 608: Withdrawn. Withdrawn route covered by SBST 10, 31, 36 and 196.
SERVICE 700: Withdrawn. Withdrawn route covered by TIBS 960, MRT and CCL.
SERVICE 960: Cut short to operate between Woodlands Reg Int and Queen St Ter.
CIRCLE LINE PHASE II (OAP-TKT-PYL-MPS-UPL)
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SERVICE 16: Cut short to operate between Bt Merah Int and Dhoby Ghaut MRT (loop at Bencoolen St). Withdrawn route covered by SBST 14 (Joo Chiat Rd), 36 (Marine Parade) and CCL.
SERVICE 30: Cut short to operate between Boon Lay Int and Geylang Lor 1 Ter via Old Airport Rd, Tg Katong Rd, Sims Ave/Geylang Rd and Geylang Lor 1 Ter.
SERVICE 63: Amended to operate between Rumah Tinggi and Museum CCL via Hill St, Stamford Rd, (Selegie Rd), Bras Basah Rd (Museum CCL) and Victoria St.
SERVICE 70: Amended to operate between Yio Chu Kang Ter and Eunos Int via Sims Ave/Changi Rd. Withdrawn route covered mainly by CCL; Guillemard Rd covered by SBST 7 and 197 at Paya Lebar MRT Interchange.
SERVICE 80: Cut short to operate between Sengkang Int and Geylang Lor 1 (Loop). Withdrawn route covered by SBST 2, 63, 145, MRT and NEL.
SERVICE 93: Withdrawn. Withdrawn route covered by SBST 28, 153, 157 and NEL. -
Phrase 1:Originally posted by ^tamago^:CIRCLE LINE PHASE I (DBG-MSM-CVC-MLN-NCH-SDM)
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SERVICE 56: Withdrawn. Withdrawn route covered by SBST 54 and 88, MRT and NEL.
SERVICE 97: Cut back to operate between Jurong East Int and HarbourFront Int. Withdrawn route covered by Tanjong Pagar and Raffles Place MRT stations, and Convention Centre and Millenia CCL stations.
SERVICE 106: Amended to operate between Bt Batok Int and Dhoby Ghaut MRT (loop at Bencoolen St).
SERVICE 107: Cut short to operate between Hougang Central Int and Bugis MRT, looping via Beach Rd (Nicoll Highway CCL), Rochor Rd, Victoria St (Bugis MRT), Ophir Rd, then Beach Rd.
SERVICE 111: Amended to operate between Ghim Moh Ter and Dhoby Ghaut MRT (loop at Bencoolen St).
SERVICE 162: Withdrawn. Withdrawn route in Bishan North and Sin Ming covered by SBST 410.
SERVICE 502: Amended to operate between Boon Lay Int and Dhoby Ghaut MRT (loop at Bencoolen St).
SERVICE 960: Cut short to operate between Woodlands Reg Int and Queen St Ter.
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SERVICE 16: Cut short to operate between Bt Merah Int and Dhoby Ghaut MRT (loop at Bencoolen St). Withdrawn route covered by SBST 14 (Joo Chiat Rd), 36 (Marine Parade) and CCL.
SERVICE 30: Cut short to operate between Boon Lay Int and Geylang Lor 1 Ter via Old Airport Rd, Tg Katong Rd, Sims Ave/Geylang Rd and Geylang Lor 1 Ter.
SERVICE 63: Amended to operate between Rumah Tinggi and Museum CCL via Hill St, Stamford Rd, (Selegie Rd), Bras Basah Rd (Museum CCL) and Victoria St.
SERVICE 70: Amended to operate between Yio Chu Kang Ter and Eunos Int via Sims Ave/Changi Rd. Withdrawn route covered mainly by CCL; Guillemard Rd covered by SBST 7 and 197 at Paya Lebar MRT Interchange.
SERVICE 80: Cut short to operate between Sengkang Int and Geylang Lor 1 (Loop). Withdrawn route covered by SBST 2, 63, 145, MRT and NEL.
Service 56: It's the only bus that plies Middle Rd & Bishan St 13. It provides direct links between Bishan St 13 & Toa Payoh Central.
Service 97: It can't be amended. There's links between Buona Vista/Alexandra Rd & Raffles Place. It may probably be amended to loop at Finlayson Green.
Service 106, 111, 502: I don't think it will be amended. Too bad there's no Dhoby Ghaut Bus Interchange. If there is, these services can terminate there.
If amendment is to be made, I'd suggest looping at Handy Rd/Orchard Rd/Penang Rd Junction.
Service 107: I don't think it'll be amended, especially after Service 82 has been withdrawn from the Beach Rd & Shenton Way area.
Service 162: This service gives direct links between Sin Ming/Bishan North Estates & Orchard Rd Area.
Service 960: So far, Queen St Terminal is a Johor-Bound Terminal, especially Svc 171 & 390 has been withdrawn from the Terminal. I don't think any local services will terminate there.
Phrase 2:
Service 16: This service covers links between Tiong Bahru/Orchard Area & Dunman/Joo Chiat Areas.
Service 30: This service serves from Boon Lay. If anyone were to notice the dep times, this and Svc 154 departs at 0020 hrs specially for the JIE workers. Some of them could live in Bedok/Eunos/Old Airport Area.
Service 63: What will happen to Ubi Estate residents if your amendment were to be made? It was integrated in 2002/3 with Svc 382.
Service 70: Direct Links between Paya Lebar/Guillemard Rd & Shenton Way is lost.
Service 80: Direct Links between Geylang East Estate & Tg Pagar/HBF is cut off. However, it could be a possibilty that it may be amended.
These are just my comments. I don't think the CCL Rationalisation Exercise will be that great
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probably a hard balance to strike between inconvenience and non-duplication. here's the routes residents can take after my rationalisation. that said, u can take it that it's my view. hehe. i was hoping for more proposals=)
Phase 1:
SERVICE 56
[It's the only bus that plies Middle Rd & Bishan St 13.]
Middle Rd stretch is short and can be covered by services plying Beach Rd, North Bridge Rd, Victoria St and Bencoolen St.
(1) SBST 410: Bishan St 13 to Bishan Int -> MRT: Bishan to Novena -> TIBS 980: Novena MRT to Middle Rd.
[It provides direct links between Bishan St 13 & Toa Payoh Central.]
(2) SBST 410: Bishan St 13 to Bishan Int -> SBST 88: Bishan MRT to Toa Payoh Central
(3) SBST 410: Bishan St 13 to Bishan Int -> MRT: Bishan to Toa Payoh.
SERVICE 97
[It can't be amended. There's links between Buona Vista/Alexandra Rd & Raffles Place. It may probably be amended to loop at Finlayson Green.]
(1) SBST 100: Alexandra Rd to Raffles Place
SERVICE 107
[I don't think it'll be amended, especially after Service 82 has been withdrawn from the Beach Rd & Shenton Way area.]
Change to Weekday Service to Shenton Way only?
SERVICE 162
[This service gives direct links between Sin Ming/Bishan North Estates & Orchard Rd Area.]
(1) SBST 410: Sin Ming/Bishan St 22 to Bishan Int -> MRT: Bishan to Orchard
(2) SBST 410: Sin Ming/Bishan St 22 to Upp Thomson Rd -> TIBS 167/SBST 132/CSS 605: Upp Thomson Rd to Orchard Rd
SERVICE 960
[So far, Queen St Terminal is a Johor-Bound Terminal, especially Svc 171 & 390 has been withdrawn from the Terminal. I don't think any local services will terminate there.]
I was thinking if it'll be too long for the drivers if TIBS 960 becomes a loop service to Bugis MRT (a second TIBS 966?). But demand for TIBS 960 at Bugis is very very high.
Phase 2:
SERVICE 16
[This service covers links between Tiong Bahru/Orchard Area & Dunman/Joo Chiat Areas.]
Stretch of Joo Chiat Rd between Marine Parade Rd & Dunman Rd is short.
(1) SBST 33: Tiong Bahru to Dunman/Joo Chiat Rds.
(2) SBST 14: Orchard Rd to East Coast Rd near Joo Chiat Rd.
(3) MRT: Orchard to Old Airport Rd -> SBST 33: Old Airport Rd to Dunman Rd
SERVICE 30
[This service serves from Boon Lay. If anyone were to notice the dep times, this and Svc 154 departs at 0020 hrs specially for the JIE workers. Some of them could live in Bedok/Eunos/Old Airport Area.]
Then keep it unchanged=)
SERVICE 63
[What will happen to Ubi Estate residents if your amendment were to be made? It was integrated in 2002/3 with Svc 382. ]
Right. Probably introduce a new service from Eunos Int to loop at MacPherson Estate via Ubi Estate and MacPherson CCL Station or keeping it unchanged=)
SERVICE 70
[Direct Links between Paya Lebar/Guillemard Rd & Shenton Way is lost.]
(1) MRT: Upp Paya Lebar/MacPherson to Raffles Place
(2) WALK: Guillemard Rd to Old Airport Rd -> MRT: Old Airport Rd to Raffles Place
(3). SBST 7/197: Guillemard Rd to Kallang -> MRT: Kallang to Raffles Place
(4) WALK: Guillemard Rd to Old Airport Rd -> SBST 10: Old Airport Rd to Collyer Quay/Raffles Quay/Shenton Way
SERVICE 80
[Direct Links between Geylang East Estate & Tg Pagar/HBF is cut off. However, it could be a possibilty that it may be amended.]
(1) SBST 80: Geylang East Central to Kallang -> MRT: Kallang to Tg Pagar/HarbourFront
(2) WALK: Geylang East Central to Paya Lebar -> MRT: Kallang to Lavender/Bugis/City Hall -> SBST 145: Tg Pagar Rd/HarbourFront -
Taken from "Land Transport Guide of Singapore, 2001-2002" by LTA from National Reference Library. A quick note of quotes:
Design of crossings at Marina Line:
- 'X' common (or diamond) crossings at DBG-MSM, NCH-BLV (like those at CGA)
- stacked tunnels from MLN to NCH
- a swing nose crossing from BLV-bound platform to DBG-bound at BLV (SNCs are found anywhere else)
- middle over-run tunnel at BLV-OAP
"Trains will be stabled in the over-run tunnels and platforms at Dhoby Ghaut station and at the Boulevard crossover sidings where light maintenance will be carried out."
i wonder what will happen if a major overhaul is needed.. especially when the new trains are delivered it could have manufacturing faults (gearbox fragments incident on new black bodied Kawasaki trains in 2000).. mobile car lifting in the tunnels? that could damage the tunnels or at the least add wear and tear..
"Apart from Dhoby Ghaut station at the western end of the Marina Line, three future interchanges have been planned at the Convention Centre, Millenia and Nicoll Highway stations. The latter two stations will have double transfer platforms with four tracks to facilitate interchange with future lines. Museum station will be a very deep cut-and-cover station with the platform located at some 30 metres below the road surface and the bored tunnels along Bras Basah Rd will cross underneath the existing East-West Line tunnels. Boulevard station.. will be a unique shallow station with the station's ticketing concourse located at ground level with extensive linkways to the National Stadium."
Convention Centre station is an interchange station? to which line? and with no double platforms?
and Nicoll Highway station interchanges with which line? Bt Timah Line? or Downtown Extension Line goes to terminate at NCH via MLN?
32 metres (depth of MSM station) is about that of Raffles Place's..!
".. provisions have been made in the Civil contracts to allow future developments above the Marina Line tunnels at designated land sale sites. At the Boulevard station site, a portion of Stadium Boulevard will be expunged and a revised road network planned to integrate the station and better serve the needs of the developments in the area."
"The 22kV power supply required for Marina Line operations will initially be from PowerGrid with the intake at Boulevard station. When the depot is completed, the Marina Line power supply will be from a 66kV intake substation located at the depot, with the 22kV intake at Boulevard station possibly retained as a backup." -
Lovely insights!Originally posted by ^tamago^:Taken from "Land Transport Guide of Singapore, 2001-2002" by LTA from National Reference Library. A quick note of quotes:
Design of crossovers at Marina Line:
- 'X' common crossovers at DBG-MSM, NCH-BLV (like those at CGA)
- stacked tunnels from MLN to NCH
- single-nosed crossover from BLV-bound to DBG-bound at BLV (found anywhere else)
- central over-run tunnel at BLV-OAP Do u have any idea of explaning what does single-nosed crossover and central over-run tunnel means? Thanks! -
Sorry, it's swing nose crossing (SNC), not single nose crossing, though it's also logical to call it single nose crossing..
Definition of Swing Nose Crossing: A set of points incorporating a moving blade in the Common Crossing that is moved according to the lie of the points. This eliminates the `gap' in the running rails and makes for a smoother ride and reduces wear.
This type of crossing is found almost everywhere in the MRT network.. The central 'V' shape rail can actually swing to both ends (it is movable).. So imagine the 'V' as a different colour (red?) from the main rails in ur head.. Now the 'V' rail can swing towards the straight track or the curved track so that the train will follow the direction 'V' is swung towards.. for live anmation, visit Jurong East middle platform and wait at the side towards Marina Bay.. the crossing changes every few minutes (when train jus left and before train arrives at platform) and then u see the corresponding movement of the trains when they pass through the crossing..
Common (or diamond) crossings are only found at Changi Airport Terminal Station where the trains change track to go to either platform.. it is the same as 2 SNCs placed together, meeting in the midddle and passing through each other at 90 degrees.. when the trains pass through the intersection it is particularly loud.. try noticing it the next time u go there..
Swing Nose Crossing at bottom left, Common Crossing at top right
A middle overrun tunnel/track is simply an additional third tunnel/track in between two tunnels/tracks connected by crossovers.. they can hold a train temporaily while it reverse or jus park there awaiting instructions.. they can be found between these stations: Yishun - Sembawang (track), Farrer Park - Little India (tunnel), Woodleigh - Potong Pasir (tunnel). -
Oh.. didnt know those kind of crossings are known as SNGs. :p Thanks for the explanation.Originally posted by ^tamago^:Sorry, it's swing nose crossing (SNG), not single nose crossing, though it's also logical to call it single nose crossing..
A middlel overrun tunnel/track is simply an additional third tunnel/track in between two tunnels/tracks connected by crossovers.. they can hold a train temporaily while it reverse or jus park there awaiting instructions.. they can be found between these stations: Yishun - Sembawang (track), Farrer Park - Little India (tunnel), Woodleigh - Potong Pasir (tunnel).
There's one SNG between Braddell & Toa Payoh Stations and another one between YCK & AMK Stations. They were used in the very 1st phrase of the MRT system when trains started running between YCK and TPY.
As for middle over-run track, there's one more at Woodlands - Marsiling (Viaduct), one more at Outram Park - Tiong Bahru (Tunnel) and one more at AMK - YCK (Viaduct). -
yup.. thanks for informing me that Outram Park there has middle overrun tunnels too.. and also Woodlands - Marsiling and Bishan - Ang Mo Kio - Yio Chu Kang .. aniwaes, we might not have any chance to go to this, but beyond HarbourFront Terminal there's also a middle overrun tunnel..
and sorry it's SNC.. how i knew it was from a report some years ago in the ST about SMRT's decision to use a CC at Changi Airport Terminal Station cos they felt it produced less noise than SNCs but they arrived with a different conclusion when they planned the SMRT network in the 1980s so they went ahead with all SNCs for efficiency's sake when maintaining the tracks and now we are full of SNCs everywhere.. aniwaes it's quite useless since CGA station is underground? heh..
shall try not to reply too late cos easy to make mistakes when u r not so alert..
the second last station from terminals always get at least one SNC (LKS has 2) in case of track faults with track switching equipment at crossovers.. i was thinking if Newton is a bit far away for trains to U-turn when Marina Bay's SNCs have track faults..
and also, there's a tunnel light that will always be switched on midway between Dhoby Ghaut and Somerset in both directions.. it is believed that there is a door connecting the two tunnels but why only this section? and behind Somerset's northbound tunnel there's a hugh empty space (look at the station's load diagram there).. i wonder what is it for? i mean, only Somerset has it.. could it be linked to the Istana or Oxley Rd where LKY stays? whee...=P -
Exclusive link to PM's place from MRT track ah? Could the empty space be some huge bomb shelter or basement of shopping center?Originally posted by ^tamago^:yup.. thanks for informing me that Outram Park there has middle overrun tunnels too.. and also Woodlands - Marsiling and Bishan - Ang Mo Kio - Yio Chu Kang .. aniwaes, we might not have any chance to go to this, but beyond HarbourFront Terminal there's also a middle overrun tunnel..
and sorry it's SNC.. how i knew it was from a report some years ago in the ST about SMRT's decision to use a CC at Changi Airport Terminal Station cos they felt it produced less noise than SNCs but they arrived with a different conclusion when they planned the SMRT network in the 1980s so they went ahead with all SNCs for efficiency's sake when maintaining the tracks and now we are full of SNCs everywhere.. aniwaes it's quite useless since CGA station is underground? heh..
shall try not to reply too late cos easy to make mistakes when u r not so alert..
the second last station from terminals always get at least one SNC (LKS has 2) in case of track faults with track switching equipment at crossovers.. i was thinking if Newton is a bit far away for trains to U-turn when Marina Bay's SNCs have track faults..
and also, there's a tunnel light that will always be switched on midway between Dhoby Ghaut and Somerset in both directions.. it is believed that there is a door connecting the two tunnels but why only this section? and behind Somerset's northbound tunnel there's a hugh empty space (look at the station's load diagram there).. i wonder what is it for? i mean, only Somerset has it.. could it be linked to the Istana or Oxley Rd where LKY stays? whee...=P -
well.. it's likely it's a extra area for Civil Defence shelter.. but that light in the middle of the track that is always on.. heh.. strange..
aniwaes, jus to point out, actually SNCs are everywhere in the MRT system.. as long as a train can change tracks, it is a SNC.. so for example, Yishun - Khatib has 2 SNCs.. not jus in a configuration like that of TPY-BDL and YCK-AMK.. only exception is that CGA uses a CC.. -
As a resident in Buona Vista, I am concerned if CCL will be in my neighbourhood too.Originally posted by tranquilice:Copied from an earlier topic (Future MRT Lines)
My assumptions for Stages 4 & 5: Lornie Rd > Eng Neo Ave > Sixth Ave > Ghim Moh > Buona Vista > NUH > South Buona Vista Rd > Pasir Panjang Rd > PSA Building > HarbourFront > Keppel Rd > Marina BayFront > Millennia (Stage 1 station), thus forming the Circle Line.
Here's my prediction:
HarbourFront->Telok Blangah->PSA Building(Alexandra Road)->Pasir Panjang Road->South Buona Vista (Science Park 2)-> NUH->One North(Insead)->Buona Vista (interchange for CCL and EW)-> Holland Village -> Farrer Road -> Adam Road-> Lornie Road -> Macritchie -> Shunfu.
I would not think it will go by Sixth Ave, I can't imagine MRT tunnels crossing underneaths those Private houses. Moreover, the HDB estate in Farrer Road command higher passenger loads. And there are more development site in Holland than in Ghim Moh.
Unless they are having the station in existing RJC site in Ghim Moh.
MP for Buona Vista (Holland) is Mr Lim Swee Say and MP for Ulu Pandan (Ghim Moh/Farrer) is Mr Vivian Balakristnan, just wondering which MP has greater influence in having the MRT station built in their ward.
Seeing many soil errorsion test in many sites in Holland, more likely the station would be in Holland V rather than Ghim Moh. -
perhaps that shall go my bus 74, 165 and 156 too. anyway that's still many years away.Originally posted by xin1jun2:circle line ratz?
my goodness i cant imagine losing my 93 to this circle line (goodbye 155?)
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I don't think 74 will be affected. It mostly serves students from many different schools.Originally posted by iamgoondu:perhaps that shall go my bus 74, 165 and 156 too. anyway that's still many years away.
165 could be affected for its MacRitchie-Clementi part of its route.
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Possibly Sv. 156 cut short to Bishan, anything goes especially with SBST.Originally posted by foxtrot1985:I don't think 74 will be affected. It mostly serves students from many different schools.
165 could be affected for its MacRitchie-Clementi part of its route.
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Remember Dover station? With CCL, Service 74 will be redundant. Of course that would only happen if both MRT and buses are operated by same operator.Originally posted by foxtrot1985:I don't think 74 will be affected. It mostly serves students from many different schools.
165 could be affected for its MacRitchie-Clementi part of its route.
156 could be affected for its Sengkang-MacRitchie part of its route
Why would SBST remove their buses to benefit SMRT?
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Scroll up to the earlier part of this topic... There has been many suggestions on this.Originally posted by iamgoondu:Remember Dover station? With CCL, Service 74 will be redundant. Of course that would only happen if both MRT and buses are operated by same operator.
Why would SBST remove their buses to benefit SMRT?
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Look at Sv. 106, TIBS were forced to remove it but they weren't too happy, and rules are rules, so..Originally posted by iamgoondu:Remember Dover station? With CCL, Service 74 will be redundant. Of course that would only happen if both MRT and buses are operated by same operator.
Why would SBST remove their buses to benefit SMRT?
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IMO They will still keep 74. Many students take 74 from AMK and Hougang to Whitley Sec (along Marymount Rd), Nanyang Pri, Nanyang Girls' High Sch, The Chinese High Sch, Hwa Chong JC, National JC, Raffles' Girls Pri Sch (all along Bt Timah Rd), Ngee Ann Poly, Singapore Poly, ACS(I) and ACJC. I'm sure that if it were withdrawn, many students and their parents will protest strongly against it. Try taking 74 during peak hours when school reopens next year from Hougang and the bus will be packed for most of the whole journey.Originally posted by iamgoondu:Remember Dover station? With CCL, Service 74 will be redundant. Of course that would only happen if both MRT and buses are operated by same operator. -
Here's a compliation of all Crossings on the North South MRT Line.Originally posted by ^tamago^:Design of crossings at Marina Line:
- 'X' common (or diamond) crossings at DBG-MSM, NCH-BLV (like those at CGA)
- stacked tunnels from MLN to NCH
- a swing nose crossing from BLV-bound platform to DBG-bound at BLV (SNCs are found anywhere else)
- middle over-run tunnel at BLV-OAP
(Opp) means in the opposite direction.
I.E If (Opp) JUR-Bound to MRB Bound, it means that facing in the opposite direction on the track of JUR-Bound, there is a crossover from that track that intersect with (Same direction) MRB Bound track.
SNG:
From BNL-bound to MRB-Bound @JUR-BBT, nearer to JUR From JUR-bound to PSR-Bound @JUR-BBT, nearer to JUR 1 set of crossovers (2 SNG) @BGB-CCK, nearer to CCK. From (Opp) JUR-bound to MRB-Bound @YWT-KRJ, nearer to YWT. From MRB-Bound to (Opp) JUR-Bound @YWT-KRJ, nearer to KRJ. From (Opp) JUR-Bound to MRB-Bound @WDL-ADM, nearer to WDL. From (Opp) JUR-Bound to MRB-Bound @ADM-SBW, nearer to ADM. From (Opp) JUR-Bound to MRB-Bound @SBW-YIS, nearer to SBW. 1 set of crossovers (2 SNG) @YIS-KTB, nearer to YIS. From (Opp) JUR-Bound to MRB-Bound @YCK-AMK, nearer to YCK. From BSH Depot-Bound to MRB-Bound @AMK-BSH, nearer to AMK. 1 set of crossovers (2 SNG) between JUR-Bound and middle track @AMK-BSH, nearer to AMK. From MRB-Bound to BSH Depot-Bound @AMK-BSH, outside BSH Depot. 1 set of crossovers (2 SNG) between 2 BSH Depot-Bound tracks, outside BSH Depot. From (Opp) JUR-Bound to MRB-Bound @BDL-TAP, nearer to TAP. From (Opp) JUR-Bound to MRB-Bound @NEW-ORC, nearer to NEW. From MRB-Bound to BNL-Bound @CTH-RFP, nearer to RFP. From PSR-Bound to JUR-Bound @CTH-RFP, nearer to RFP. 1 set of crossovers (2 SNG) @RFP-MRB, nearer to MRB.
Total SNG: 24
Middle Over-Run Track: MSL-WDL, nearer to WDL SBW-YIS, nearer to YIS YCK-AMK, nearer to AMK AMK-BSH, nearer to BSH (Note: The over-run doesnt have crossover from middle track towards JUR-Bound and from middle track towards MRB-Bound)
Total Over-Runs: 4
Splitting of tracks: Outside JUR Outside BSH Depot
Stacked Tunnels: Between City Hall & Raffles Place, including Station platforms.
Correct me if there's any mistakes
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TIBS were removed to Service 106? I hope not!Originally posted by SBS9818A:Look at Sv. 106, TIBS were forced to remove it but they weren't too happy, and rules are rules, so..
I did submit a feedback to TIBS to sound my unhappiness in cut back to Service 106. Till now, I still can't understand why TIBS cut back Service 106 to Suntec, here were my logic:
a. The ex-route of Service 106 was the only TIBS services that provide linkage between Orchard to Serangoon via Bencoolen St.
b. With Service 111 being cut back to Suntec, why TIBS 106 needs follow suit? I paid $1.33 from Commonwealth Ave West to Tekka if I take Service 147, I paid $1.13 from the same bus stop to Tekka. Till now I still prefer to make a bus transfer along Orchard Road, each time I make my trip to Sim Lim Square.
c. Service 77 has already provided the linkage between Orchard and Suntec. Why compete with own TIBS route for passenger?
d. Suddenly, Holland Road becomes so unconnected, we have TIBS 106, 75 and 77 running about same route to Suntec.
e. I had suggested to TIBS to amend Service 106 to loop at Bencoolen, rather then terminating at Suntec. Unfoutnately, they refused.
f. If they are being forced to terminate at Suntec, they should fight against it for the sake of shareholders (not passengers), shareholders deserve higher ROI.