SBST list of PAC and NAC services
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Below is the list of SBST PAC and NAC services, based on my observances, as at yesterday 22 Nov. SBST FAC services and JIS are not included in the list. Please correct the list if there's any mistakes.
6 (PAC)
11 (NAC)
19 (PAC)
35 (NAC)
37 (PAC)
38 (PAC)
60 (PAC)
74 (PAC)
79 (PAC)
90 (PAC)
91 (PAC)
93 (PAC)
94 (PAC)
95 (PAC)
107 (PAC)
125 (PAC)
151 (PAC)
154 (PAC)
179 (PAC)
182 (PAC)
186 (PAC)
191 (PAC)
192 (PAC)
193 (PAC)
199 (PAC)
200 (PAC)
274 (PAC)
275 (PAC)
354 (NAC)
378 (NAC)
379 (NAC)
403 (PAC) -
Originally posted by tranquilice:Below is the list of SBST PAC and NAC services, based on my observances, as at yesterday 22 Nov. SBST FAC services and JIS are not included in the list. Please correct the list if there's any mistakes.
6 (PAC)
11 (NAC)
19 (PAC)
35 (NAC)
37 (PAC)
38 (PAC)
60 (PAC)
74 (PAC)
79 (PAC)
90 (PAC)
91 (PAC)
93 (PAC)
94 (PAC)
95 (PAC)
107 (PAC)
125 (PAC)
151 (PAC)
154 (PAC)
179 (PAC)
182 (PAC)
186 (PAC)
191 (PAC)
192 (PAC)
193 (PAC)
199 (PAC)
200 (PAC)
274 (PAC)
275 (PAC)
354 (NAC)
378 (NAC)
379 (NAC)
403 (PAC)
Services 11, 35 uses aircon buses sometimes. Sometimes service 403 is a fully a/c service. -
In addition to what Off_Service stated, Service 35 can be considered a PAC service as every morning it will have a MK3 operating. As for Service 354, it is very much like Service 11. Ie. only one bus operating for a certain timeframe of the day. I've been on an OAC N113 on Service 354 before.Originally posted by tranquilice:Below is the list of SBST PAC and NAC services, based on my observances, as at yesterday 22 Nov. SBST FAC services and JIS are not included in the list. Please correct the list if there's any mistakes.
6 (PAC)
11 (NAC)
19 (PAC)
35 (NAC)
37 (PAC)
38 (PAC)
60 (PAC)
74 (PAC)
79 (PAC)
90 (PAC)
91 (PAC)
93 (PAC)
94 (PAC)
95 (PAC)
107 (PAC)
125 (PAC)
151 (PAC)
154 (PAC)
179 (PAC)
182 (PAC)
186 (PAC)
191 (PAC)
192 (PAC)
193 (PAC)
199 (PAC)
200 (PAC)
274 (PAC)
275 (PAC)
354 (NAC)
378 (NAC)
379 (NAC)
403 (PAC)
Oh yes, add Service 10 to the list as a PAC service too.
Cheers and warm regards -
I think the NAC bus you saw on service 10 is a substitute bus. I do think that the service is now FAC as that bus is not permanent on the service.Originally posted by Superbus:In addition to what Off_Service stated, Service 35 can be considered a PAC service as every morning it will have a MK3 operating. As for Service 354, it is very much like Service 11. Ie. only one bus operating for a certain timeframe of the day. I've been on an OAC N113 on Service 354 before.
Oh yes, add Service 10 to the list as a PAC service too.
Cheers and warm regards -
Is 154 still a PAC service? I don't recall seeing any non-air-con 154s these days...
Anyway, for yesterday, an observation I made was the majority of the 74 fleet was air-conditioned with very few non-air-conditioned ones... Had a lot of 19xx and 26xx series buses more than usual... -
I saw VO 2-axles on this service not long ago.Originally posted by foxtrot1985:Is 154 still a PAC service? I don't recall seeing any non-air-con 154s these days...
Anyway, for yesterday, an observation I made was the majority of the 74 fleet was air-conditioned with very few non-air-conditioned ones... Had a lot of 19xx and 26xx series buses more than usual... -
Sv. 11 occasionally gets a/c buses from HGDEP. Sv. 154 is only partially-aircon occasionally.Originally posted by tranquilice:Below is the list of SBST PAC and NAC services, based on my observances, as at yesterday 22 Nov. SBST FAC services and JIS are not included in the list. Please correct the list if there's any mistakes.
6 (PAC)
11 (NAC)
19 (PAC)
35 (NAC)
37 (PAC)
38 (PAC)
60 (PAC)
74 (PAC)
79 (PAC)
90 (PAC)
91 (PAC)
93 (PAC)
94 (PAC)
95 (PAC)
107 (PAC)
125 (PAC)
151 (PAC)
154 (PAC)
179 (PAC)
182 (PAC)
186 (PAC)
191 (PAC)
192 (PAC)
193 (PAC)
199 (PAC)
200 (PAC)
274 (PAC)
275 (PAC)
354 (NAC)
378 (NAC)
379 (NAC)
403 (PAC) -
Still, if an NAC bus appeared, even as a sub bus on a supposedly FAC service, shouldn't it be considered a PAC service? I mean, if it is really an FAC service, SBST would have deployed an aircon bus instead of the NAC bus right?Originally posted by tranquilice:I think the NAC bus you saw on service 10 is a substitute bus. I do think that the service is now FAC as that bus is not permanent on the service.
After the VOs was taken out of service from Service 10, it's been only a few times anyone of us had sighted an NAC Scania on it. So I will still consider it as a PAC service.
Cheers and warm regards -
Sometimes SBS 3626B (repainted NAC N113CRB) makes appearances on Sv. 10Originally posted by Superbus:Still, if an NAC bus appeared, even as a sub bus on a supposedly FAC service, shouldn't it be considered a PAC service? I mean, if it is really an FAC service, SBST would have deployed an aircon bus instead of the NAC bus right?
After the VOs was taken out of service from Service 10, it's been only a few times anyone of us had sighted an NAC Scania on it. So I will still consider it as a PAC service.
Cheers and warm regards -
I agree with you. And SBST should deploy all aircon buses to make it a real FAC service. Same goes to services 38 and 60.Originally posted by Superbus:Still, if an NAC bus appeared, even as a sub bus on a supposedly FAC service, shouldn't it be considered a PAC service? I mean, if it is really an FAC service, SBST would have deployed an aircon bus instead of the NAC bus right?
After the VOs was taken out of service from Service 10, it's been only a few times anyone of us had sighted an NAC Scania on it. So I will still consider it as a PAC service.
Cheers and warm regards -
I agree with you. And SBST should deploy all aircon buses to make it a real FAC service. Same goes to services 38 and 60.Originally posted by Superbus:Still, if an NAC bus appeared, even as a sub bus on a supposedly FAC service, shouldn't it be considered a PAC service? I mean, if it is really an FAC service, SBST would have deployed an aircon bus instead of the NAC bus right?
After the VOs was taken out of service from Service 10, it's been only a few times anyone of us had sighted an NAC Scania on it. So I will still consider it as a PAC service.
Cheers and warm regards -
What abt service 90 on Wkdays? There are hardly any AC buses during off peak and 1 AC bus on peak hours, rego 3720. However, 3720 is sent to 238 during Off Peak. Is this resonable to a SV which is PAC but zero AC buses available.
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Service 238 do not use SBS 3720 L during off peak hours. The bus they used is 3722G (Safra Ad). I guess what the PAC is trying to mean is that in all operation hours from Monday to Sunday, there're times where the buses are AC while some are NAC. More AC buses are deployed on weekends and during the RSAF Paya Lebar Open House.Originally posted by th1988:What abt service 90 on Wkdays? There are hardly any AC buses during off peak and 1 AC bus on peak hours, rego 3720. However, 3720 is sent to 238 during Off Peak. Is this resonable to a SV which is PAC but zero AC buses available. -
No, PAC means that 90 has to have at least 1 AC buses on the WHOLE operations DAILY and not just on Sat and Sun/PH or RSAF Open House. This is what I heard from SBS Corporate Communications Centre at Braddell Depot - where 90 is placed.
Anyway, SBS CCC has not been caring abt 90's overloaded trips. W/o trial, they told me that 90 has no demand, are they unreasonable? -
If many of us bus fans give up writing feedbacks to them because they are unreasonable and do nothing, it should apply also! They simply don't care!Originally posted by th1988:No, PAC means that 90 has to have at least 1 AC buses on the WHOLE operations DAILY and not just on Sat and Sun/PH or RSAF Open House. This is what I heard from SBS Corporate Communications Centre at Braddell Depot - where 90 is placed.
Anyway, SBS CCC has not been caring abt 90's overloaded trips. W/o trial, they told me that 90 has no demand, are they unreasonable?