do u all think tibs bus have longer waiting time thn sbstra
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Before Tibs took over control of Bt Panjang, the frequencies of its services are super long. Passengers can wait up to half an hour.Originally posted by alantanchunshyan:i do not really know how tibs operate bus service.it seems their bus is always caught up in jam.but surely it happens many times in the past and tibs should have taken extra care by putting extra bus in route that will caught up in jam and the long waiting time will not hae occured. -
but maybe at that time when the sbs is operating ,the passenger not so many.but now there are so many passenger like in the case of 970 during peak hours,tibs should at least provide enough bus.Originally posted by tranquilice:Before Tibs took over control of Bt Panjang, the frequencies of its services are super long. Passengers can wait up to half an hour. -
At Yishun, the customary poster was put up to advise pax to take alternatives instead of 171 cos of traffic congestion.Originally posted by service_238:On Saturday, there was a huge jam along Somerset Rd at around 6pm. It was so huge that my bus got struck there for at least 15 min. as a result some buses had the same service.
TIBS is always mis-using those posters to explain their long waiting time, and i kenna it b4 for my svc 806 when pax complained that they have to wait 20mins last yr.........how to have traffic congestion in a short feeder service ? Turned out tt they are saving cost and only using 1 miserable 0405. Why can't they just buy more buses? They normally introduce new ones and phasing out an equal number of older ones simultaneously -
yeh i share your same view.tibs have not may have enough bus for all the routes they operated.i did feedback to tibs asking them when they are ready to buy new bus fleets but to my disappointed,they do not have at the persent moment.i personally think that they must have earned a lot of profit after sbs at that time handed choa chu kang and bukit batok bus service to tibs.also the miserable 700 plus bus fleets will not be able to handle unexpected large volumes of passenagers .hope tibs will really consider buying a lot more bus fleets like waht sbstransit did so there would be enough to meet passenager demand.Originally posted by TIB1186Z:At Yishun, the customary poster was put up to advise pax to take alternatives instead of 171 cos of traffic congestion.
TIBS is always mis-using those posters to explain their long waiting time, and i kenna it b4 for my svc 806 when pax complained that they have to wait 20mins last yr.........how to have traffic congestion in a short feeder service ? Turned out tt they are saving cost and only using 1 miserable 0405. Why can't they just buy more buses? They normally introduce new ones and phasing out an equal number of older ones simultaneously -
Not everytime the posters are hoaxes. There was once there was some kind of pipe laying construction going on at Yishun Ave 5 (towards Yishun MRT) and even though the number of buses on services 811, 856 and 859 are somehow the same, the waiting time was terrible. Seen 2 or 3 service 859 buses reaching Yishun in a matter of 10 to 15 mins.Originally posted by TIB1186Z:At Yishun, the customary poster was put up to advise pax to take alternatives instead of 171 cos of traffic congestion.
TIBS is always mis-using those posters to explain their long waiting time, and i kenna it b4 for my svc 806 when pax complained that they have to wait 20mins last yr.........how to have traffic congestion in a short feeder service ? Turned out tt they are saving cost and only using 1 miserable 0405. Why can't they just buy more buses? They normally introduce new ones and phasing out an equal number of older ones simultaneously -
Now Bendy Buses are deployed on service 700.Originally posted by alantanchunshyan:yeh i share your same view.tibs have not may have enough bus for all the routes they operated.i did feedback to tibs asking them when they are ready to buy new bus fleets but to my disappointed,they do not have at the persent moment.i personally think that they must have earned a lot of profit after sbs at that time handed choa chu kang and bukit batok bus service to tibs.also the miserable 700 plus bus fleets will not be able to handle unexpected large volumes of passenagers .hope tibs will really consider buying a lot more bus fleets like waht sbstransit did so there would be enough to meet passenager demand. -
[quote]Originally posted by off_service:
Now Bendy Buses are deployed on service 700.[/quote
but the frequency can be further improved from 10 to around 6-9mins as bukit panjang does not have mrt and relay on bus .by the way i also think tibs should buy new buses like sbstransit to improve on its effecienty and improve its waiting time.
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actually, i think the 700 bendies were formerly from 106. cos they cut back on buses after gg to marina. anyway i thot that tibs have about 20 spare buses according to some sources. So how can it be that they are not enuf buses.
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Not necessary. TIB 1024H (WLDEP bus) cameos on Sv. 700 quite frequently. TIBS are getting a batch of new Scanias (L94UB?) so the bus woes should be somewhat solved. They will be for Sv. 167, from one of my sources.Originally posted by rancour5:actually, i think the 700 bendies were formerly from 106. cos they cut back on buses after gg to marina. anyway i thot that tibs have about 20 spare buses according to some sources. So how can it be that they are not enuf buses. -
there is great improvement for 167,856 and 980 frequency from 20 mins to 13-15mins yesterday night.even after 10pm,the frequency is maintained at 13-15mins.but will it continue to operate at the 13-15mins every night ,have to wait and see.anyone konws the sudden improvement for 167,856 and 980 frequency at night?
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I'm suprised at the change as well. Maybe TIBS decided to put in more buses on the 3 services?Originally posted by alantanchunshyan:there is great improvement for 167,856 and 980 frequency from 20 mins to 13-15mins yesterday night.even after 10pm,the frequency is maintained at 13-15mins.but will it continue to operate at the 13-15mins every night ,have to wait and see.anyone konws the sudden improvement for 167,856 and 980 frequency at night? -
i think what u are right .usually,at around 8:30pm afterwards,a few bus will go back to respective terminals naming admiralty rd west terminal and sembawang road end terminal and will go back to depot.these few days it seem most buses will continue to take passengers to bukit merah and gelyang lor1 instead of heading back to respective depots .hence there are more buses operating from these two services.for 856 ,its seems the same thing by exending the operating hours of those buses that will usually head back to depot after the trip to either interchange at around 8:30pm onwards.Originally posted by SBS9818A:I'm suprised at the change as well. Maybe TIBS decided to put in more buses on the 3 services? -
Perhaps Tibs received alot of feedbacks from workers and residents. Somehow the frequency of services 856 and 980 gets slower after 10.30pm or 11pm compared to before 10.30pm. Or is it just my illusion?Originally posted by alantanchunshyan:i think what u are right .usually,at around 8:30pm afterwards,a few bus will go back to respective terminals naming admiralty rd west terminal and sembawang road end terminal and will go back to depot.these few days it seem most buses will continue to take passengers to bukit merah and gelyang lor1 instead of heading back to respective depots .hence there are more buses operating from these two services.for 856 ,its seems the same thing by exending the operating hours of those buses that will usually head back to depot after the trip to either interchange at around 8:30pm onwards. -
i find that at night time,the frequency gradually increases .this is due to the buses returning to depot.as buses goes back to depot,one bus frequency becomes two buses frequencices and as more and more buses of the same services going back to depots,the frequnecy increase even further.Originally posted by off_service:Perhaps Tibs received alot of feedbacks from workers and residents. Somehow the frequency of services 856 and 980 gets slower after 10.30pm or 11pm compared to before 10.30pm. Or is it just my illusion? -
the simple answer to this is that SBS simply does not have that manpower enough to put traffic polix at every bus stop .Originally posted by ibtrdia:I never did understand why SBS and TIBS do not do a commuter traffic profile so that they can manage the crowds.
It's annoying that you have been waiting for half and hour and the bus is the single type one and it's full of passenger instead of a double decker. You wait for another 20 minutes, another single deck bus.
That's my 50 cents and it'll be a dollar soon.
however svc 95 does have its monitorer at Bouna vista bus stop during peak. cna immediately deploy an extra 95 bus parking at bouna vista ter or AYBP if need to. i think the moiniter person has walkie talkie to communicate too.
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I remembered in 2002 when Svc 232 and 237 integrated, there're a lot of people taking Svc 238 home in the evening peak. This caused a lot of overloaded buses and the frequency gets higher sometimes. Hence, an SBST inspector was deployed at the Svc 238 berth to make sure that the bus is either not FULLY overloaded or it has adequate number of people in the bus before it leaves the int.
That was in 2002 and early-mid 2003. The frequency during peak hours now is 4 minutes and the passenger load is not over 100%
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Yes, Sv. 238 is notorious for overloading. This year things have improved markedly, how many buses does Sv. 238 have currently?Originally posted by service_238:I remembered in 2002 when Svc 232 and 237 integrated, there're a lot of people taking Svc 238 home in the evening peak. This caused a lot of overloaded buses and the frequency gets higher sometimes. Hence, an SBST inspector was deployed at the Svc 238 berth to make sure that the bus is either not FULLY overloaded or it has adequate number of people in the bus before it leaves the int.
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Originally posted by SBS9818A:Yes, Sv. 238 is notorious for overloading. This year things have improved markedly, how many buses does Sv. 238 have currently?
5 Buses bet 0515 - 0542 8 Buses during Morning Peak 7 Buses during Daytime Off Peak 9 Buses during Evening Peak 6 Buses bet 1944 - 2223 5 Buses bet 2228 - 2353 4 Buses bet 2353 - 0045 -
OK. The journey time is about 30 minutes, plus 7 minutes rest break, so just nice for a 4 minute frequency.Originally posted by service_238: 5 Buses bet 0515 - 0542 8 Buses during Morning Peak 7 Buses during Daytime Off Peak 9 Buses during Evening Peak 6 Buses bet 1944 - 2223 5 Buses bet 2228 - 2353 4 Buses bet 2353 - 0045 -
I have some of the driver's timetables. Journey Time varies from 23 min to 30 min. Rest Times varies from 5 min to 10 min (except 25min meal breaks)Originally posted by SBS9818A:OK. The journey time is about 30 minutes, plus 7 minutes rest break, so just nice for a 4 minute frequency.
Evening Peak freq is 4 min, journey time is 28 min. The only reason why SBST deploys a 9th bus is because one of the buses is having a meal break between 1818 - 1842. The 9th bus is deployed at around 1818 hrs.
Note: The 9th Bus is the crossover bus from Svc 26.
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Oh I see, so only 8 buses will operate at any one time.Originally posted by service_238:I have some of the driver's timetables. Journey Time varies from 23 min to 30 min. Rest Times varies from 5 min to 10 min (except 25min meal breaks)
Evening Peak freq is 4 min, journey time is 28 min. The only reason why SBST deploys a 9th bus is because one of the buses is having a meal break between 1818 - 1842. The 9th bus is deployed at around 1818 hrs.
Note: The 9th Bus is the crossover bus from Svc 26.
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That's only when that bus is having its meal break. The others had their meal breaks before 1800. After the meal break, that bus goes back into operation and 9 buses are operating from 1842 - 1923. After that one of the buses in the peak hour shift returns to BRAM for the day, leaving 8. At 1946, another peak hour bus returns, leaving 7. At 1952, the 9th bus aka crossover bus returns to the depot for the night, leaving 6 Buses in operation after that.Originally posted by SBS9818A:Oh I see, so only 8 buses will operate at any one time.
I have the full weekday schedule of Svc 238. If you'd like to know more about its timing + timetable, I can send them to you. -
[quote]Originally posted by service_238:
That's only when that bus is having its meal break. The others had their meal breaks before 1800. After the meal break, that bus goes back into operation and 9 buses are operating from 1842 - 1923. After that one of the buses in the peak hour shift returns to BRAM for the day, leaving 8. At 1946, another peak hour bus returns, leaving 7. At 1952, the 9th bus aka crossover bus returns to the depot for the night, leaving 6 Buses in operation after that.
I have the full weekday schedule of Svc 238. If you'd like to know more about its timing + timetable, I can send them to you.[/quote
Yes please do. How did you get the timesheets? I thought drivers can't give them out freely? -
Simple. Sit behind the driver's seat and copy the timesheet using a handphone. If you're lucky, the timesheet is displayed on the pane above the driver. If not, it's on the dashboard where it's very hard to take down the timings. In addition to that, I've analysed the timings of the buses for 11 hours in late November.Originally posted by SBS9818A:Yes please do. How did you get the timesheets? I thought drivers can't give them out freely? -
Haha I thought you literally took the sheet of paper off. I would love to do so but my pencilbox is too heavy.Originally posted by service_238:Simple. Sit behind the driver's seat and copy the timesheet using a handphone. If you're lucky, the timesheet is displayed on the pane above the driver. If not, it's on the dashboard where it's very hard to take down the timings. In addition to that, I've analysed the timings of the buses for 11 hours in late November.