Double Decker Buses on Service 174
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Ya, avoid 9095 because you can't see the view of Old Jurong Rd from the front thanks to the Army's contravision ad.Originally posted by xin1jun2:the load factor on 174 is very heavy. esp the superbus i took first time was packed liek sardines.
the 2nd time i took it with darryl and the rest the bus was not so packed.
meanwhile 174 has 5 Lo3x on it...SBS9004, SBS9038, 9042, 9080 and that silly fronted ad one.....9095. 9095 all of us shd avoid since u cant see much outside with that paste on ad (not electrostatically) on the front coach like upper deck window.
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SBS 9004 departed at 1401 hrs from BNL Int. (14th Dec)
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SBST is damm chip skate. Just saving money for these few words.Originally posted by SBS9818A:SAVE MONEY! Same for Sv. 107 and Sv. 62, but HOW much can they possibly save by not printing letters. -
For 107, it has only the number itself due to the alternative rt 107x during sundays and PHs.
Now a days, most SBS new ADD services have just the no itself might be due to its usefulness.
Imagine this, you see lets say 78, you might not be sure of the rt even it says "Jurong East 78 Clementi (Loop)" as where it plys, so you might ask the service captain after all or check the side plate which is more comprehensive. -
Not necessary. Sv. 62 and Sv. 174 have only the numbers, no texts. It would have been better to put text so commuters won't be so confused.Originally posted by th1988:For 107, it has only the number itself due to the alternative rt 107x during sundays and PHs.
Now a days, most SBS new ADD services have just the no itself might be due to its usefulness.
Imagine this, you see lets say 78, you might not be sure of the rt even it says "Jurong East 78 Clementi (Loop)" as where it plys, so you might ask the service captain after all or check the side plate which is more comprehensive. -
If they are using the cloth destination sign or the rollers like those in HK it would be better. Of course, EDS would be the best but it is expensive.Originally posted by SBS9818A:Not necessary. Sv. 62 and Sv. 174 have only the numbers, no texts. It would have been better to put text so commuters won't be so confused. -
Service 64 does require double deckers. Not so for service 165 during off peak hours. I really hope some double decks from service 165 would go over to service 74 when school term starts.Originally posted by PT21:
Yes, service 174 deserve superbus.
Just now i was taking service 174 back from work at new bridge rd Ter, at orchard Rd, service 174 is fully pack with communter. I was on SBS 9095T. So service 174 should deserve it, not other service like service 64 and 165, they does not deserve the superbuses especially the Trident. Understand! small kids...
I agree with you, service 165 doesn't need Tridents. I am still thinking why did SBST took out the Trident from service 74 after the "publicity period". -
Sv. 165 Trident is quite a nice sight, but it goes empty most of the time. I rather see it on Sv. 74, but will be a very rare cameo.Originally posted by off_service:Service 64 does require double deckers. Not so for service 165 during off peak hours. I really hope some double decks from service 165 would go over to service 74 when school term starts.
I agree with you, service 165 doesn't need Tridents. I am still thinking why did SBST took out the Trident from service 74 after the "publicity period". -
Actually there was a night late last year when I saw 2 Tridents bunched together on service 74 as well... Quite a waste of resources considering both buses are TridentsOriginally posted by off_service:I agree with you, service 165 doesn't need Tridents. I am still thinking why did SBST took out the Trident from service 74 after the "publicity period". -
Sv. 74 is notorious for bunching as SBST overestimated the loads especially during holidays and at night.Originally posted by foxtrot1985:Actually there was a night late last year when I saw 2 Tridents bunched together on service 74 as well... Quite a waste of resources considering both buses are Tridents -
actually i don't think it's SBS Transit that overestimates the load. It's more of a case of 74 having such high demand that SBS Transit are forced to have 74 operating at very short frequencies. With short frequencies, the chance of buses bunching is very high since an earlier bus which may be unlucky with traffic lights may be slowed down slightly which may be enough to bunch with the buses behind. And once 74 buses bunch together, the driver and passengers on subsequent buses have a terrible time.
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But the notorious bunching only happens during off-peak hours and school holidays. During school dismissal times the buses will be full of pax and it would be quite tough for them to clump. Yes, once Sv. 74 buses clump together, the ones behind would go very slowly.Originally posted by foxtrot1985:actually i don't think it's SBS Transit that overestimates the load. It's more of a case of 74 having such high demand that SBS Transit are forced to have 74 operating at very short frequencies. With short frequencies, the chance of buses bunching is very high since an earlier bus which may be unlucky with traffic lights may be slowed down slightly which may be enough to bunch with the buses behind. And once 74 buses bunch together, the driver and passengers on subsequent buses have a terrible time.
There was once during a school day, in the afternoon along HG Ave 2, I saw THREE Sv. 74 buses coming together (2 2-axle VOs, one B10M Mk II) and the combined capacity would fit into one 2-axle VO just nicely. -
3 is not very rare. I saw 6 bunched together at AMK MRT years ago and my friend saw 8 bunched at KAP last year (think both peak hours and towards HG. the latter due to a traffic jam.)Originally posted by SBS9818A:But the notorious bunching only happens during off-peak hours and school holidays. During school dismissal times the buses will be full of pax and it would be quite tough for them to clump. Yes, once Sv. 74 buses clump together, the ones behind would go very slowly.
There was once during a school day, in the afternoon along HG Ave 2, I saw THREE Sv. 74 buses coming together (2 2-axle VOs, one B10M Mk II) and the combined capacity would fit into one 2-axle VO just nicely. -
EIGHT Sv. 74 buses in a row? EIGHT Sv. 170 buses may seem more likely! SBST should do something to adjust the frequency, many times the buses are half empty! KAP? Where's that?Originally posted by foxtrot1985:3 is not very rare. I saw 6 bunched together at AMK MRT years ago and my friend saw 8 bunched at KAP last year (think both peak hours and towards HG. the latter due to a traffic jam.) -
King Albert Park.Originally posted by SBS9818A:KAP? Where's that?