Perm Bus List of Svcs 171, 80x, 81x, 851-853
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taken from Yishun Int toilet alley, bus schedule (school term):
171: 496K, 497H, 498E, 501D, 504X, 505T, 507M, 508K, 528C, 577K, 622M, 623K, 756K, 757H, 781L, 820H, 961J
800: 1048P, 1059H, 1114G, 1200R, 1207Y
804: 575R, 615J, 812G, 814B, 816X, 818R, 1163P(?), 1218R(?), 1232Z(?)
806: 575R, 784D, 812G, 816X, 1160Y, 1163P, 1164L, 1176C, 1200R
811: 1198P, 1220H, 1221E, 1223A, 1237K, 1238H, 1239E, 1240A, 1241Y
812: 777A, 1053Z, 1058K, 1060C, 1136T, 1218R, 1220H, 1231B, 1232Z, 1237K
851: 473B, 572Z, 614L, 617D, 737R, 762S, 773K, 780P, 782J, 783G, 798P, 801M, 813D, 976S, 1012S, 1017D, 1018B, 1020T, 1021R, 1023K, 1057M, 1081S, 1098U, 1112L, 1113J, 1137R, 1138M, 1147L
852: 912B, 934M, 1007H, 1008E, 1009C, 1010Y, 1011U, 1013P, 1014L
853: 377X, 573X, 618B, 750B, 752X, 776C, 913Z, 922Y, 923U, 924S, 925P, 930Z, 944J, 945G, 946D, 1003T, 1005M, 1016G
School term schedules commence on Monday, 29th Dec '03.
[rego-to-svc]
473B=851*
496K=171*
497H=171*
498E=171*
501D=171*
504X=171*
505T=171*
507M=171*
508K=171*
528C=171*
572Z=851*
573X=853*
575R=804*,806*
577K=171*
614L=851*
615J=804*
617D=851*
618B=853*
622M=171*
623K=171*
737R=851*
750B=853*
752X=853*
756K=171*
757H=171*
762S=851*
773K=851*
775E=AM+;67,851 [775E was sub on Svc 67 on Mon, 22nd Dec and sub on Svc 851 on Tue, 23rd Dec]
776C=853*
777A=812*
780P=851*
781L=171*
782J=851*
783G=851*
784D=806*
798P=851*
801M=851*
812G=804*,806*
813D=851*
814B=804*
816X=804*,806*
818R=804*
820H=171*
912B=852*
913Z=853*
922Y=853*
923U=853*
924S=853*
925P=853*
930Z=853*
934M=852*
944J=853*
945G=853*
946D=853*
976S=851*
1003T=853*
1005M=853*
1007H=852*
1008E=852*
1009C=852*
1010Y=852*
1011U=852*
1012S=851*
1013P=852*
1014L=852*
(1015J=169*)
1016G=853*
1017D=851*
1018B=851*
1020T=851*
1021R=851*
1023K=851*
1048P=800*
1053Z=812*
1057M=851*
1058K=812*
1059H=800*
1060C=812*
1081S=851*
1098U=851*
1112L=851*
1113J=851*
1114G=800*
1136T=812*
1137R=851*
1138M=851*
1147L=851*
1160Y=806*
1163P=804*,806*
1164L=806*
1176C=806*
1173K=106
1185B=960
1198P=811*
1200R=800*,806*
1207Y=800*
1218R=804*,812*
1220H=811*,812*
1221E=811*
1223A=811*
1231B=812*
1232Z=804*,812*
1237K=811*,812*
1238H=811*
1239E=811*
1240A=811*
1241Y=811*
* indicates permanent bus
+ indicates run-around bus
Also, it is confirmed buses using YIDEP are 804, 812, 853 and 854.. -
Nice insight!
I guess i would like to pay a visit to the Yishun Int toilet alley. lol -
now actually i think they removed Svc 854 onwards' schedules cos they replaced it with Christmas rough schedules (with CHC duties and without) and most probably next is New Year so u can only see wat i saw.. it's a gd place for early info on TIBS like route familarisation on new routes (857 i saw there well before announcement).. too bad i forgot to check it out before 966 came out..
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Where is the toilet alley located? which berth of office Is it next to ?
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next to alighting berths, 171, 812 (St 61), NR1 and former 811 end-on berth and also the "mama" shop.. the only toilet in Yishun Interchange..
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Hmm, must go there and snoop around one day. Sv. 854 O405G fleet is quite predictable, TIB 1019Z - TIB 1023K all on the service. AFAIK TIB 775E is a CAC notorious for its lousy aircon, and isn't it perm on Sv. 171, after jumping ship from Sv. 67?
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dun think so eh.. maybe it runs about.. but this bus has a schedule on Svc 851 to adhere to.. and maybe it's 757H on Svc 171 tat u saw since it was ard on Svc 171 for a long long time already..
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Definitely not 757H, if I'm not wrong is 775E. Kenna transferred to Sv. 851 so quickly? Hmm, at least its off Sv. 67, or else SBS9819Y would be very very angry.Originally posted by ^tamago^:dun think so eh.. maybe it runs about.. but this bus has a schedule on Svc 851 to adhere to.. and maybe it's 757H on Svc 171 tat u saw since it was ard on Svc 171 for a long long time already..
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maybe i go check when it serves on Svc 851.. maybe it has more off days on 851's schedule... seems like this bus quite "bo eng", running around AMDEP svcs..
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Will be a bit tough, but you must remember this bus has a non-existant a/c unit fitted.Originally posted by ^tamago^:maybe i go check when it serves on Svc 851.. maybe it has more off days on 851's schedule... seems like this bus quite "bo eng", running around AMDEP svcs.. -
no no.. check at the toilet alley wat time and day it serves Svc 851.. not board and check when it is on Svc 851.. dun worry i got forewarning liao.. hehe..
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TIB775E is confirmed not to be permanent on Svc 851.. it was mixed up cos i did saw TIB775E at 19:40 opposite Anderson JC towards Yishun yesterday (Tue, 23rd Dec).. looks like it's a run-around bus of AMDEP, occasionally serving Svcs 67 and 851..
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Yes, TIB 775E was and never is perm on Sv. 851, Sv. 171 seems more likely.Originally posted by ^tamago^:TIB775E is confirmed not to be permanent on Svc 851.. it was mixed up cos i did saw TIB775E at 19:40 opposite Anderson JC towards Yishun yesterday (Tue, 23rd Dec).. looks like it's a run-around bus of AMDEP, occasionally serving Svcs 67 and 851.. -
Sorry ^tamago^ but i find ur list very hard to believe, but i give u the benefit of the doubt as i havent went to the toilet alley recently.
Firstly, it is IMPOSSIBLE for svc 806 with 15mins route time to get 6 buses, and service 804 with 30mins route time to get 9 buses. Whats more, 575 , 812 , 816 are perm on 804 now and will still be
Next alot of ur svc 171 buses hopped over to the other yishun trunk services, but considering the fact tt 171 0405 OACs have the route posters, TIBS would not shuffle them too much unless they got too much $$ to spare on advertising. 171 also have too few perm buses to begin with, as its fleet is rather stable, esp the 0405s.
It is also unlikely for 852 to be a full Lance fleet, however much you may like it to be. As far as possible, for AMKDEP in concern, they like to mix some models in for trunk services so as to increase reliability. It would be extremely hard for TIBS to make a svc fully Lance, like there were times where most of the fleet was grounded after the 1004K incident for emergency checks.
Lastly, i will like to clear up the air abt bendies on 804. These bendies follow the 804A route and only enter service in ONE direction twds the interchange from blk 356, yishunn ring rd,....AND...the buses are normally 1164 and 1176, NOT 1163 as most of u all believe. -
welll i find the list OK and most of the regos fit in well into my rego lists.
at any rate naturally i was suspicious of some of the regos...just took down what i thought was right.
and fyi where are hte merc of 852 regos> i thought there were more. and the 852 list has the cameos included hence u saw many lances..=P
ZYX -
Yes, the list includes cameos. TIB1186Z, don't worry, Sv. 852 will get more and more UK LancesOriginally posted by xin1jun2:welll i find the list OK and most of the regos fit in well into my rego lists.
at any rate naturally i was suspicious of some of the regos...just took down what i thought was right.
and fyi where are hte merc of 852 regos> i thought there were more. and the 852 list has the cameos included hence u saw many lances..=P
ZYX
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ZYX, if 575 and 812 and 816 are perm on ur list for svc 806, i have to say tt ur list is wrong as they appear only on cameo basis.
SBS9818A, the other UK Lances are fully booked up on other svcs liao...so this is the max number. BTW, 518 , 490 and 436 are perm on 852 since the day when 852 is fully controlled by AMK
Next, i have a very good look at the Yishun toilet ally tdy, and this list is NON-existant. There is NO briefing for svc 852 drivers on the 28, just a cursory reminder to check the office for schedule.
PLS POST CORRECT, EXISTANT information on this forum, and do not try to make up any other info tt is not published. Your co-operation is most welcome. Thanks -
well, u might wan to visit it one day since you are quite familiar with YI and should pass by it quite often.. the list are permanent buses on the routes, but there could be exceptions because:
1. there could be one or more of the perm buses is/are down so a mid-term sub is taking its place.
2. drivers, though fixed to a route, rotate their duties so they drive different buses every week.
3. feeder svcs at YI do have special (S) shifts covering only the peak hours in the morning and afternoon. this is also known as "swing" or "split-shift" to some forumers. 804's duties codes are usually 804S20x.
4. trunk route drivers do go for an additional run on feeder services sometimes as part of their duty so there will be more buses going around during the peak hour on feeder svcs.
5. TIBS buses do not follow simple AM, PM and S shifts.. there is also the "three-quarter" (TQ) shift from 8am to 8pm which is enough to cover the demand during off-peak and peak day hours.
6. not all buses are on the service all the while even though it is considered to be permanent. they are mostly on the service 6 days a week or sometimes 5 days so there are enough spare buses to go around in the depot. after all, machines need rest too.
the list comes in the form of work calendar.. look out again the next time you go down.. at the opposite board of the work calendars is the notices.. there is one indicating schedule change implementation on 29th dec '03.. i will go down to check if it is removed, though it should not be so before 29th dec 03.. as for O405s on Svc 852, they have permanent duties on svc 852 on weekends usually.. for exact shift details might have to wait for the new work calendar to be up..
as for Svc 852, the O405s are perm for holiday schedule.. for normal schedule, usually DAF and Lances take its place.. now some DAFs are starting to come back to Svc 852, but major changes are in place from monday, 29th dec when holiday schedule ceases.. -
since when 573 and 618 perm on sv 853?! Also.. are u certain that 945 is so permanent on sv 853? It does run around ya know!
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I personally DO NOT believe AMKDEP has any DAFs, and Sv. 852 has been 100% AMKDEP fleet since early Nov.Originally posted by ^tamago^:well, u might wan to visit it one day since you are quite familiar with YI and should pass by it quite often.. the list are permanent buses on the routes, but there could be exceptions because:
1. there could be one or more of the perm buses is/are down so a mid-term sub is taking its place.
2. drivers, though fixed to a route, rotate their duties so they drive different buses every week.
3. feeder svcs at YI do have special (S) shifts covering only the peak hours in the morning and afternoon. this is also known as "swing" or "split-shift" to some forumers. 804's duties codes are usually 804S20x.
4. trunk route drivers do go for an additional run on feeder services sometimes as part of their duty so there will be more buses going around during the peak hour on feeder svcs.
5. TIBS buses do not follow simple AM, PM and S shifts.. there is also the "three-quarter" (TQ) shift from 8am to 8pm which is enough to cover the demand during off-peak and peak day hours.
6. not all buses are on the service all the while even though it is considered to be permanent. they are mostly on the service 6 days a week or sometimes 5 days so there are enough spare buses to go around in the depot. after all, machines need rest too.
as for Svc 852, the O405s are perm for holiday schedule.. for normal schedule, usually DAF and Lances take its place.. now some DAFs are starting to come back to Svc 852, but major changes are in place from monday, 29th dec when holiday schedule ceases.. -
if Svc 852 is AMDEP since early Nov, this is too recent for me to notice it, but usually DAFs serve on Svc 852 during school terms.. and this change is after the last school term so i will have no info on this.. i'm jus quoting the work calendar posted on the toilet alley.. anyway i did see one DAF on Svc 852 a few days ago..
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Hello, are ya certain about it?! Sv 852 is no longer with KJDEP and therefore no DAFs can be seen on it! Unless you would tell me that AMKDEP has spaces for DAFs to park.Originally posted by ^tamago^:if Svc 852 is AMDEP since early Nov, this is too recent for me to notice it, but usually DAFs serve on Svc 852 during school terms.. and this change is after the last school term so i will have no info on this.. i'm jus quoting the work calendar posted on the toilet alley.. anyway i did see one DAF on Svc 852 a few days ago.. -
DAF on Sv. 852 days ago? You sure you saw correctly or not?Originally posted by ^tamago^:if Svc 852 is AMDEP since early Nov, this is too recent for me to notice it, but usually DAFs serve on Svc 852 during school terms.. and this change is after the last school term so i will have no info on this.. i'm jus quoting the work calendar posted on the toilet alley.. anyway i did see one DAF on Svc 852 a few days ago.. -
When did DAFs appeared in AMK these days? TIBS closing down KJDEP ?Originally posted by ^tamago^:well, u might wan to visit it one day since you are quite familiar with YI and should pass by it quite often.. the list are permanent buses on the routes, but there could be exceptions because:
1. there could be one or more of the perm buses is/are down so a mid-term sub is taking its place.
2. drivers, though fixed to a route, rotate their duties so they drive different buses every week.
3. feeder svcs at YI do have special (S) shifts covering only the peak hours in the morning and afternoon. this is also known as "swing" or "split-shift" to some forumers. 804's duties codes are usually 804S20x.
4. trunk route drivers do go for an additional run on feeder services sometimes as part of their duty so there will be more buses going around during the peak hour on feeder svcs.
5. TIBS buses do not follow simple AM, PM and S shifts.. there is also the "three-quarter" (TQ) shift from 8am to 8pm which is enough to cover the demand during off-peak and peak day hours.
6. not all buses are on the service all the while even though it is considered to be permanent. they are mostly on the service 6 days a week or sometimes 5 days so there are enough spare buses to go around in the depot. after all, machines need rest too.
as for Svc 852, the O405s are perm for holiday schedule.. for normal schedule, usually DAF and Lances take its place.. now some DAFs are starting to come back to Svc 852, but major changes are in place from monday, 29th dec when holiday schedule ceases..
TIBS drivers are FIXED to a BUS, NOT the other way round. this is normally how TIBS operate their bus services. They are not fixed to a route, like some Lances cross over to 969 sometimes with an 855 driver. Rather, they cross routes like AMK's cameo king , TIB819M
BTW, U shd visit Yisun more often. In the case for svc 804 and 806, the split shift is from 12pm to 3pm, NOT during the peak hours or the Bendy on 804 will get stuck in the U-turn, and the 806 12m bus will probably explode.
Feeder service drivers go on trunk, NOT trunk on feeder for god's sake. Svc 806 bendies with their drivers regularly go over to svc 854 during the non-peak. Even if they do, they cross over for the whole day.
Next, the code for trunk drivers AND feeder is 8??AMXX or 8??PMXX.....i must really compliment u for ur vivid imagination and perhaps ur under-corrected eyesight
It is true tt the buses need rest, but once in two months wont really warrant it as perm, won't it?
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as i said i'm jus quoting the work calendar.. anyway if it is not so permanent i need to check if it is on the S shift or it has more than 2 days off on this service since i copied every rego i saw.. but when i say permanent here means the bus has a duty and schedule on this service that it needs to serve so:
1. it may have duties on other services that i am not aware of
2. it may be chartered out to other services on its rest day due to bus shortage
i didn't copy the shift and day of each bus since it is too much info to copy..