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Yes, 90 was a recylcled no and it was FAC when it was started.
Why FAC? It is because at that time PTC strictly go by a rule. For services less than 12 mins MUST be PAC, and 13 mins and above MUST be FAC. -
Please stop ranting about the PTC rules about PAC/FAC services or services 8 and 90. It's just getting on everyone's nerves.Originally posted by th1988:Yes, 90 was a recylcled no and it was FAC when it was started.
Why FAC? It is because at that time PTC strictly go by a rule. For services less than 12 mins MUST be PAC, and 13 mins and above MUST be FAC.
I would advise you to wait for SBST to make changes and improvements before you keep complaining. Even if you keep complaining to PTC, LTA, SBST or even us, it would be hard SBST to make changes within a short period of time. You should know rescheduling and deployment of buses takes skills and experience and is most time consuming.
I would like to tell you to be patient and leave it as what it is now. I like to stress this again: SBS Transit would take actions to improve their services when the time is right. -
Off_service, did you saw the word AT THAT TIME?
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Are universities (NUS or NTU) allow to run their own shuttle linking their school compound with MRT stations?Originally posted by SBS9818A:Correct. SBST will want as much dividends as possible so I think they would leave it to NUS to set up their own shuttle.
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Are universities (NUS or NTU) allow to run their own shuttle linking their school compound with MRT stations?Originally posted by SBS9818A:Correct. SBST will want as much dividends as possible so I think they would leave it to NUS to set up their own shuttle.
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Yes, the current service 90 which is introduced in 1993 is using a recycled number.Originally posted by iamgoondu:I believe Service 90 had a much longer history than that. I remembered taking Service 90 from Commonwealth Ave to Jalan Bukit Merah in the early 80's. (If I can remembered correctly.) The service was probably withdrawn/integrated when the E-W line starts running. It was one of the many buses like 209, 186, 144, 148, 2, 103... that were withdrawn, amended or integrated.
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I agree that the link between Kent Ridge and Dover is the most direct, however I think that amending an existing service to ply via Dover station to serve NUS (Kent Ridge Cres area) is not possible at the moment.Originally posted by iamgoondu:The reasons were pretty obvious:
a. The link between Dover MRT and Kent Ridge Int is more direct and than that between Kent Ridge and BV or Clementi.
b. Moreover, there are fewer jams between Dover MRT and Clementi Road than Clementi MRT to Clementi Road.
c. What's more the students travelling to Kent Ridge from the East need not have to travel to Clementi to make transfer, they need only to alight at Dover which was one stop earlier. BV though was 2 stops away from Kent Ridge and was served by 95, was not really popular for those study in Engineering faculty (near Kent Ridge Interchange), as the journey was pretty long as compared from Dover to Kent Ridge or Clementi to Kent Ridge.
d. NUS provides Free Shuttle Service between University Cultural Centre between Dover and Kent Ridge when there are performances, only reflects the more direct connection it has had over Clementi MRT and Kent Ridge.
e. A link between Dover and Kent Ridge would benefit students, though it might not be likewise for SBST. Since SBST had monopoly over 95 and 96. I would rather prefer TIBS to take up the challenge.
How do you think?
Tibs can take up the challenge, but if it wants to, the service has to starts from its area of control. -
Can you enlighten me on area of control? What's the area of control for TIBS? Area of control refers to the interchanges the company operates? Does it mean TIBS has no access to other bus interchanges/terminal other than those it currently operates like Yishun, Bukit Batok....Originally posted by tranquilice:I agree that the link between Kent Ridge and Dover is the most direct, however I think that amending an existing service to ply via Dover station to serve NUS (Kent Ridge Cres area) is not possible at the moment.
Tibs can take up the challenge, but if it wants to, the service has to starts from its area of control.
If TIBS was to operates a bus service from Buona Vista, will the maintenance charges for operating from that terminal for a service be HIGHER, LOWER or SAME as any bus service operates from Bukit Batok?
If higher, will it put commuters in the West at a disadvantaged? As TIBS will definitely choose to operate/terminate at its Area of Control, and that leave us with little route variety.
Why is it NOT POSSIBLE to operate amend existing route like 32 or 111 at this time? Few will be affected and many will be benefited however. -
The bottom line is SBST are more interested in making money.Originally posted by iamgoondu:Can you enlighten me on area of control? What's the area of control for TIBS? Area of control refers to the interchanges the company operates? Does it mean TIBS has no access to other bus interchanges/terminal other than those it currently operates like Yishun, Bukit Batok....
If TIBS was to operates a bus service from Buona Vista, will the maintenance charges for operating from that terminal for a service be HIGHER, LOWER or SAME as any bus service operates from Bukit Batok?
If higher, will it put commuters in the West at a disadvantaged? As TIBS will definitely choose to operate/terminate at its Area of Control, and that leave us with little route variety.
Why is it NOT POSSIBLE to operate amend existing route like 32 or 111 at this time? Few will be affected and many will be benefited however. -
Area of control is the area where a bus company is allocated by the government to operate its bus services. Areas of control of Tibs include Yishun, Sembawang, Woodlands, Choa Chu Kang, Lim Chu Kang, Bukit Panjang and Bukit Batok.Originally posted by iamgoondu:Can you enlighten me on area of control? What's the area of control for TIBS? Area of control refers to the interchanges the company operates? Does it mean TIBS has no access to other bus interchanges/terminal other than those it currently operates like Yishun, Bukit Batok....
If TIBS was to operates a bus service from Buona Vista, will the maintenance charges for operating from that terminal for a service be HIGHER, LOWER or SAME as any bus service operates from Bukit Batok?
If higher, will it put commuters in the West at a disadvantaged? As TIBS will definitely choose to operate/terminate at its Area of Control, and that leave us with little route variety.
Why is it NOT POSSIBLE to operate amend existing route like 32 or 111 at this time? Few will be affected and many will be benefited however.
Tibs services do have access to SBST interchanges such as Boon Lay, Clementi, Sengkang, Ang Mo Kio, Bukit Merah, Bedok, Eunos, Tampines, and SBST terminals. These services make up of original-Tibs and former-SBST services.
As for Tibs operating bus service from Buona Vista, that's will be Tibs and PTC decision.
Service 32 is already a long route, so extending it to Kent Ridge may not be possible. Service 111 does serve the Ghim Moh residents to C'wealth Ave and Orchard Rd. -
Still you are going round and round over the same topic.Originally posted by th1988:Off_service, did you saw the word AT THAT TIME? -
Off_service, my complain is a tict for tat to SBS.
As I complaint abt non-deployment of ASDs, no reply was made abt this matter and a reply back did no help either. So w/o any choice, I had just to report it to LTA, since SBS repeatly refused to reply me.
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Then th1988...why dun u complain if the bus is actually a partial air-con but operates a total fleet of air-conditioned buses?
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Th1988 : When will you stop complaining? What will make you at ease?
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PAC sv but majority AC buses is good for you (anybody), as PTC wants SBS to improve on their ASD/ ADD allocations and not just the minimum. Otherwise where will the improve come from?
As for ease of mind, it will be untill SBS learns to listen to passengers and to reply all their qns and not until someone have to chase you again and again, then why open CRC? Also Public Tpt company never win a award of having a good public relations. -
I think it may be due to shortage of NAC buses, that's why PAC services have majority of AC buses?Originally posted by th1988:PAC sv but majority AC buses is good for you (anybody), as PTC wants SBS to improve on their ASD/ ADD allocations and not just the minimum. Otherwise where will the improve come from?
As for ease of mind, it will be untill SBS learns to listen to passengers and to reply all their qns and not until someone have to chase you again and again, then why open CRC? Also Public Tpt company never win a award of having a good public relations. -
They have to satisfy the masses, not ONLY one deranged passenger like you. It seems that you think the whole world revolves around you, and you only.Originally posted by th1988:PAC sv but majority AC buses is good for you (anybody), as PTC wants SBS to improve on their ASD/ ADD allocations and not just the minimum. Otherwise where will the improve come from?
As for ease of mind, it will be untill SBS learns to listen to passengers and to reply all their qns and not until someone have to chase you again and again, then why open CRC? Also Public Tpt company never win a award of having a good public relations. -
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Then a PAC operating as a NAC service is detrimental to the public lar...in other words?
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The problem is you write the problem to them and they reply other matters only or just use the overused phrase, AS AND WHEN AC BUSES ARRIVE WE WILL REPLACE THEM, never doing investigation.
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i believe your argument is a solid one, however, Services 95 and 96 are already serving the area and the pax load of Svc 95 has not really been maxed out to have SBST consider another trunk service into NUS/NUH.. try asking for a day service from Kent Ridge Terminal to Commonwealth Ave West Dover MRT (Loop).. this would make your idea more susceptible to SBST..Originally posted by iamgoondu:The reasons were pretty obvious:
a. The link between Dover MRT and Kent Ridge Int is more direct and than that between Kent Ridge and BV or Clementi.
b. Moreover, there are fewer jams between Dover MRT and Clementi Road than Clementi MRT to Clementi Road.
c. What's more the students travelling to Kent Ridge from the East need not have to travel to Clementi to make transfer, they need only to alight at Dover which was one stop earlier. BV though was 2 stops away from Kent Ridge and was served by 95, was not really popular for those study in Engineering faculty (near Kent Ridge Interchange), as the journey was pretty long as compared from Dover to Kent Ridge or Clementi to Kent Ridge.
d. NUS provides Free Shuttle Service between University Cultural Centre between Dover and Kent Ridge when there are performances, only reflects the more direct connection it has had over Clementi MRT and Kent Ridge.
e. A link between Dover and Kent Ridge would benefit students, though it might not be likewise for SBST. Since SBST had monopoly over 95 and 96. I would rather prefer TIBS to take up the challenge.
How do you think?
the route most likely would be: Kent Ridge Terminal, (Clementi Rd), Kent Ridge Cres, Clementi Rd, Commonwealth Ave West, Dover Ave, Dover Rd, Clementi Rd, Kent Ridge Cres, (Clementi Rd) and Kent Ridge Terminal.
wat should we call the service? 90-99 are used.. haha.. -
We can call 9xx, TIBS might be more driven in implementing such service.Originally posted by ^tamago^:wat should we call the service? 90-99 are used.. haha..
I am selfish, I would like that service 9xx to ply along Commonwealth Ave. -
72 has frequency of less than 12 mins and yet it is FAC. SBS Transit has its reason for keeping some bus services PAC and mainly it's because of either seasonal demands (e.g. 354) or high frequency (which requires a huge fleet of buses such that there are insufficient AC buses to cover the entire fleet).Originally posted by th1988:Yes, 90 was a recylcled no and it was FAC when it was started.
Why FAC? It is because at that time PTC strictly go by a rule. For services less than 12 mins MUST be PAC, and 13 mins and above MUST be FAC. -
Aiyo..this thing ah..sian man..tell you what th1988..SBST somehow replied the same thing to almost everyone who emailed them, and that includes most of us here! So I beg you.. pleaseeeeee stop the "SBST give me BS replies" whining...it's damn sickening you know. I'm not trying to be vulgar here but seeing this thing going on for like what, the past month, is just getting on everyone's nerves, and mine also. And until LTA replied you on your precious complaints against SBST, I would appreciate if you could just hold some peace over here. Please, I beg you!
Cheers and warm regards -
peace th1988Originally posted by Superbus:Aiyo..this thing ah..sian man..tell you what th1988..SBST somehow replied the same thing to almost everyone who emailed them, and that includes most of us here! So I beg you.. pleaseeeeee stop the "SBST give me BS replies" whining...it's damn sickening you know. I'm not trying to be vulgar here but seeing this thing going on for like what, the past month, is just getting on everyone's nerves, and mine also. And until LTA replied you on your precious complaints against SBST, I would appreciate if you could just hold some peace over here. Please, I beg you!
Cheers and warm regards
steadylah brother superbus
p/s th1988 actually no need to complain to ptc nor lta,they are all the same 'shirts' lah,got what i mean?
Actually majority of sbst staffs including myself try as hard to entertain those complains,suggestions or commendations as soon as possible,but we do have a quota and limitations for all that and same goes for the bus captains too.Majority of us try not to commit mistakes suchs as carelessness,impatient nor arguing with passengers,but remember shit happens!I hope that u can clearly understood this.