Something to ask
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I have further more qns
Is it possible for 19 to be a full day sv?
Is 69 very frequent
Is 83 demand v high
Is 93 demand high
Is 171 suituable to use bendies during academic terms?
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354 also full aircon fleet (but 2 buses at most) on weekends. Sometimes Mk3, sometimes Scanias.Originally posted by service_238:Similarly to 35, 90 also has full aircon fleet of MBO405 buses on weekends. -
1. Not sureOriginally posted by th1988:I have further more qns
Is it possible for 19 to be a full day sv?
Is 69 very frequent
Is 83 demand v high
Is 93 demand high
Is 171 suituable to use bendies during academic terms?
Does 285 have DD now?
2. Yes
3 / 4. Rather
5. Yes, however, taken out for some unknown reasons.
6. No. -
Originally posted by th1988:My meaning is, it is like your 5 day NAC, 2 day FAC to make it PAC theory just to say that sv is still PAC.
Also they claimed that ASD are depoyed throughout the day on wkdays.
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1. Not possible and not viable.Originally posted by th1988:I have further more qns
Is it possible for 19 to be a full day sv?
Is 69 very frequent
Is 83 demand v high
Is 93 demand high
Is 171 suituable to use bendies during academic terms?
Does 285 have DD now?
2. Yes during peak hours. Not really during off-peak hours.
3. Yes but not to full capacity. Its almost full seating capacity thruout daylight hours on weekends.
4. Not that high considering its frequency,
5. Might be possible.
6. Dont think so. -
Looks like I have too many qns to ask
1) Is it possible for 3 to serve up to last train at Pasir Ris to Punggol?
2) Is demand for 22 average?
3) Can 38 use ADDs?
4) Does 56 need ADDs on entire op?
7) Is 145 a canidate fo ADDs (Ignore the short trees at Henderson Road as I want to know the real demand)
Are the ADDs of 153 from the gone 85? Seems to have brunching during off peak and empty buses.
9) Can 175 use bendies as of high demand?
10) Can ADDs be on 192/ 193 when VO 2x are converted?
11) I think 238 needs long buses are there are often brunching on Sat as demand does not really need too many buses
12) Does 252 possible to use ADDs when VO 2x are converted?
13) 410 demand looks high, but if you notice frequency if 10 mins! IMO
14) Can 511 be back as it does not go with the NEL?
15) 605 frequency is now 15 mins, does it mean SMRT is withdrawning it?
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Originally posted by th1988:
Looks like I have too many qns to ask
1) Is it possible for 3 to serve up to last train at Pasir Ris to Punggol?
Why? You mean a last bus from Pasir Ris for Punggol residents?
2) Is demand for 22 average?
3) Can 38 use ADDs?
Can.
4) Does 56 need ADDs on entire op?
7) Is 145 a canidate fo ADDs (Ignore the short trees at Henderson Road as I want to know the real demand)
Yes! Are the ADDs of 153 from the gone 85? Seems to have brunching during off peak and empty buses.
9) Can 175 use bendies as of high demand?
How to U-turn at the LCK Rd end? (I dunno whether it's possible)
10) Can ADDs be on 192/ 193 when VO 2x are converted?
I have been waiting for years already!
11) I think 238 needs long buses are there are often brunching on Sat as demand does not really need too many buses
DD will do.
12) Does 252 possible to use ADDs when VO 2x are converted?
Yes, in fact most Jurong ind services.
13) 410 demand looks high, but if you notice frequency if 10 mins! IMO
14) Can 511 be back as it does not go with the NEL?
No, transport minister said already.
15) 605 frequency is now 15 mins, does it mean SMRT is withdrawning it?
We shall wait and see.
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From my visit to LCK Road End on 5th January 2004, there is no way for a Bendy to do a u-turn or even a n-point turn there, unless it reverses into PCG LCK compound.Originally posted by th1988:Looks like I have too many qns to ask
9) Can 175 use bendies as of high demand?
But along the runway LCK Road, there is sufficient space for the bus to do a 3-point turn, if not a u-turn. So maybe if a short service 175 ever appears, Bendys may appear on them. -
1. Not possible. There will be low demand for that. In fact it serves to last train at PNG and PSR towards TAM.Originally posted by th1988:Looks like I have too many qns to ask
1) Is it possible for 3 to serve up to last train at Pasir Ris to Punggol?
2) Is demand for 22 average?
3) Can 38 use ADDs?
4) Does 56 need ADDs on entire op?
5) Is 145 a canidate fo ADDs (Ignore the short trees at Henderson Road as I want to know the real demand)
6) Are the ADDs of 153 from the gone 85? Seems to have brunching during off peak and empty buses.
7) Can 175 use bendies as of high demand? Can ADDs be on 192/ 193 when VO 2x are converted?
9) I think 238 needs long buses are there are often brunching on Sat as demand does not really need too many buses
10) Does 252 possible to use ADDs when VO 2x are converted?
11) 410 demand looks high, but if you notice frequency if 10 mins! IMO
12) Can 511 be back as it does not go with the NEL?
13) 605 frequency is now 15 mins, does it mean SMRT is withdrawning it?
That's all but I have more qns to ask
2. Yes quite average. Might have high demands in the eastern area during peak hours.
3. Can but i think SBST dont find it worthwhile.
4. Not really. However, ADDs on 56 are able to boost pax at unusual times of the day.
5. 100% Yes
6. No.
7. No.
8. I dont think SBST will do that.
9. Yes it does need. but not ADDs.
10. I dont think SBST will do that.
11. Just increase the frequency
12. Wait long long.
13. Yes in due course. I'll give it till end 2005 for it to be withdrawn. -
3 for serving PSR St 71 as last bus to PGL is at 0005
As for answers, pls answer by not "Wait long long" as I just want to know are they suitable and not are whether are going to be inplemented or not. -
1. By the time buses return to depot it'd be very late.Originally posted by th1988:Looks like I have too many qns to ask
1) Is it possible for 3 to serve up to last train at Pasir Ris to Punggol?
2) Is demand for 22 average?
3) Can 38 use ADDs?
4) Does 56 need ADDs on entire op?
7) Is 145 a canidate fo ADDs (Ignore the short trees at Henderson Road as I want to know the real demand) Are the ADDs of 153 from the gone 85? Seems to have brunching during off peak and empty buses.
9) Can 175 use bendies as of high demand?
10) Can ADDs be on 192/ 193 when VO 2x are converted?
11) I think 238 needs long buses are there are often brunching on Sat as demand does not really need too many buses
12) Does 252 possible to use ADDs when VO 2x are converted?
13) 410 demand looks high, but if you notice frequency if 10 mins! IMO
14) Can 511 be back as it does not go with the NEL?
15) 605 frequency is now 15 mins, does it mean SMRT is withdrawning it?
That's all but I have more qns to ask
2. Sv. 22 is one of the few services plying Kaki Bukit area.
3. Yes.
4. You obviously haven't taken Sv. 56 before and experienced its high loads.
5. Yes.
6. Many Sv. 153 DDs were originals of the service. Exceptions are 9651M and 9660L.
7. Sv. 175 high demand? You must be joking.
8. The 2-axle VOs WILL NOT and CANNOT be converted.
9. SBST are not buying any more super-long or articulated buses.
10. Same as Q8.
11. Sv. 410 has high loads and average frequency of 7 minutes.
12. No
13. Possibly. -
The demands of sv 175 will be rather high during peak hours and very high during weekends when the NSF book in/out of their camps. Towards LCK, the DAFs are normally fully packed but don't really need bendies during weekends.Originally posted by SBS9818A:1. By the time buses return to depot it'd be very late.
2. Sv. 22 is one of the few services plying Kaki Bukit area.
3. Yes.
4. You obviously haven't taken Sv. 56 before and experienced its high loads.
5. Yes.
6. Many Sv. 153 DDs were originals of the service. Exceptions are 9651M and 9660L.
7. Sv. 175 high demand? You must be joking.
8. The 2-axle VOs WILL NOT and CANNOT be converted.
9. SBST are not buying any more super-long or articulated buses.
10. Same as Q8.
11. Sv. 410 has high loads and average frequency of 7 minutes.
12. No
13. Possibly. -
But if you look at 56, the frequency is 12 mins!
So if it is 9 mins, ADDs are not needed after all. -
Even if its 9 minutes the single-decks are struggling to cope with loads.Originally posted by th1988:But if you look at 56, the frequency is 12 mins!
So if it is 9 mins, ADDs are not needed after all. -
Not really if you use calculation
If there are 90 pax, then there are 7.5 pax waiting per min. 9 mins will have 68 pax. Lesser by even 3 mins per trip helps. -
Further more questions,
1) Does 9 terminate at Changi Airport Cargo for the last few trips?
2) Is the demand for 39 high now?
3) Does 66 need ADDs?
4) Can 100 use ADDs?
5) Can 135 use ADDs?
6) Can 139 use ADDs during peak hrs?
7) How is the demand for 177? Miserable? Are there still overloading on 193 after 182 is enchanced?
9) Does 192, 193, JIS need ADDs after VO 2x are replaced?
10) 231 can use mini bus right?
11) 608 frequency adjusted as well, same fate as 605 as demand is high?
12) Can 925 be PAC IF Tibs has NAC buses?
13) Can 856 and 981 intergrate with 856 being 7-8 mins? -
1. No it doesntOriginally posted by th1988:Further more questions,
1) Does 9 terminate at Changi Airport Cargo for the last few trips?
2) Is the demand for 39 high now?
3) Does 66 need ADDs?
4) Can 100 use ADDs?
5) Can 135 use ADDs?
6) Can 139 use ADDs during peak hrs?
7) How is the demand for 177? Miserable? Are there still overloading on 193 after 182 is enchanced?
9) Does 192, 193, JIS need ADDs after VO 2x are replaced?
10) 231 can use mini bus right?
11) 608 frequency adjusted as well, same fate as 605 as demand is high?
12) Can 925 be PAC IF Tibs has NAC buses?
13) Can 856 and 981 intergrate with 856 being 7-8 mins?
2. Yes but not to the extent of full passenger capacity.
3. No. If it does the frequency will be longer. SBST would rather deploy ADDs on other 'worthwhile' services.
4 and 5. I dont think especially at the Upp Aljunied Rd area.
6. No. And since its run by SBST it never will. 139 had LO 3x before.
7 and 8. I dont know.
9. I dont think SBST will do that
10. Not really.. 231 also caters to student demand along its route.
11. is it? if that's the case it'll be withdrawn by the end of next year
12. I dont think TIBS will. Dont forget PTC's regulations of having FAC services in time to come.
13. Maybe. I'm not sure about its demand up north.
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No offence intended.
But, SBS should care for all services otherthan worth while services like 238, 242, 291, 334. This has caused some services to have less than min standards. -
Commuting patterns are hard to calculate. 4pm today having 50 pax doesn't mean tomorrow 4pm will be having 50 pax.Originally posted by th1988:Not really if you use calculation
If there are 90 pax, then there are 7.5 pax waiting per min. 9 mins will have 68 pax. Lesser by even 3 mins per trip helps.
So your "lesser by 3 mins" theory I don't buy it.
Also, you must see if SBST had to resources to cope with the change. Having shorter frequency means more buses are needed. -
Originally posted by th1988:
Further more questions,
1) Does 9 terminate at Changi Airport Cargo for the last few trips?
>> No
2) Is the demand for 39 high now?
>> Yes
3) Does 66 need ADDs?
>> Yes, but road does not permit
4) Can 100 use ADDs?
>> Not sure
5) Can 135 use ADDs?
>> Preferably yes, SD can just barely cope.
6) Can 139 use ADDs during peak hrs?
>> The LO 3 axles were taken off.
7) How is the demand for 177? Miserable?
>> VERY high Are there still overloading on 193 after 182 is enchanced?
>> Not sure
9) Does 192, 193, JIS need ADDs after VO 2x are replaced?
>> Not sure
10) 231 can use mini bus right?
>> Not sure
11) 608 frequency adjusted as well, same fate as 605 as demand is high?
>> Not sure
12) Can 925 be PAC IF Tibs has NAC buses?
>> No. Like what you said, services with frequency >13 mins are to be FAC
13) Can 856 and 981 intergrate with 856 being 7-8 mins?
>> I think sv 981 ply roads sv 856 doesn't serve. -
For 39, are there standing pax?
969 have lesser pax now?
66, cannot use ADD at Dunearn Rd (Swiss Cottage) right? -
So what explains why I saw 3624G and many other NAC Scanias on 90 on one particular SaturdayOriginally posted by service_238:Similarly to 35, 90 also has full aircon fleet of MBO405 buses on weekends.
And do remember 90 has one CAC Scania called 3720L
0042E and 0072T(the last OAC N113CRB bulit) are the normal cameo on 90 on Saturdays and Sundays. -
981 and 856 are very high demand services during rush hours so PLEASE dont merge them cos another reason is TIBS want to maximize the use of the UDsOriginally posted by th1988:Further more questions,
1) Does 9 terminate at Changi Airport Cargo for the last few trips?
2) Is the demand for 39 high now?
3) Does 66 need ADDs?
4) Can 100 use ADDs?
5) Can 135 use ADDs?
6) Can 139 use ADDs during peak hrs?
7) How is the demand for 177? Miserable? Are there still overloading on 193 after 182 is enchanced?
9) Does 192, 193, JIS need ADDs after VO 2x are replaced?
10) 231 can use mini bus right?
11) 608 frequency adjusted as well, same fate as 605 as demand is high?
12) Can 925 be PAC IF Tibs has NAC buses?
13) Can 856 and 981 intergrate with 856 being 7-8 mins?
And if you are not sure go check it out your self, dont stick to the area around your house/workplace/places where you pass by to and from your house and workplace) -
72T on 157 today.. means it did run cameo on 90 today.Originally posted by Scania:So what explains why I saw 3624G and many other NAC Scanias on 90 on one particular Saturday
And do remember 90 has one CAC Scania called 3720L
0042E and 0072T(the last N113CRB bulit) are the normal cameo on 90 on Saturdays and Sundays.
90 AC buses usually get from SP, 26, 145 and maybe 142 -
I dont meant they run every weekend but they run sometimesOriginally posted by service_238:72T on 157 today.. means it did run cameo on 90 today.
90 AC buses usually get from SP, 26, 145 and maybe 142