Fantasy bus routes
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Haha...who thinks SBST will allow TIBS to use their precious Sengkang parking slots?Originally posted by delonchew:Then your 180 cannot use bendies already. Sengkang Int does not have space for bendies. Anyway, 180 takes less than 1.5 hours to get from Boon Lay to Bt Panjang. Normally, it takes close to 45 mins.
Actually, I do go to Bt Panjang at least 3 times a week and I stay in the east (PSR). This is how I get there.
89 to Sengkang
161 to Woodlands
187/963 to Bt Panjang.
But I agree that there is a severe lack of service from the Northwestern part of Singapore to the eastern parts.
I intended it to be something like svc 965, which means go in and out without stopping, but according to my calculations, it can park at the bends comfortably for short periods if the driver wants to visit the loo. My calculations show that it will take approx 50mins, as it takes ard 30 mins from BNL to BP, and then 161 takes a minimum of 20 mins from Woodlands to Sengkang., and it takes ard 5-10mins from BP to WDL depending on traffic. Hence, assuming that the bendies can speed at 90k like my 2836T, and without catching fire along the way ( laughs ), the minimum time needed is ard 1hr. -
The O405Gs will have lots of problems manouvering inside SK Int. They are limited to 60km/h, and 2836T CANNOT go at 90km/h.Originally posted by TIB1186Z:Haha...who thinks SBST will allow TIBS to use their precious Sengkang parking slots?
I intended it to be something like svc 965, which means go in and out without stopping, but according to my calculations, it can park at the bends comfortably for short periods if the driver wants to visit the loo. My calculations show that it will take approx 50mins, as it takes ard 30 mins from BNL to BP, and then 161 takes a minimum of 20 mins from Woodlands to Sengkang., and it takes ard 5-10mins from BP to WDL depending on traffic. Hence, assuming that the bendies can speed at 90k like my 2836T, and without catching fire along the way ( laughs ), the minimum time needed is ard 1hr. -
Why the funny route?Originally posted by xin1jun2:try ZYX966: it goes via Bt panjang on its way to Marine parade and bedok.
ZYX966: WOODLANDS - BEDOK
via: Woodlands ave 3, BKE, Bt Panjang road, Upp bt timah road, Diary farm road, PIE- JLn toa payoh - toa payoh lor 6 - PIE - Jln eunos, EUnos link - Still road, Marine parade road, amber road, Upp east coast road, bedok south rd....Bedok int
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Amber Road is at the west of MP Rd. Also there is no way cars can turn right from Amber Road to East Coast Rd (IMO) -
er...issit?
ok then the garment had make the road so that cars and buses cd turn right at Amber road to East coast road / mountbatten road junction =x
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provide link to katong for marine parade and Eunos residents. (i know 608 works for Marine parade residents)Originally posted by tranquilice:Why the funny route?
also needed to route 966 to Bedok ebcause i ahd withdrawn ZYX48 (SBS16
and integrated that ZYX48 with ZYX969 .
However if the Woodlanders insist on the current SBS168 route then they can take ZYX116 to jln Kayu camp and transfer to ZYX969.
Because ZYX116 and ZYX969 are through fare buses. one only pays for what distance he took and not 2 bus trips of fares. for example if one insits on SBS168's route then by ZYX116 and ZYX969 he pays for just one trip ($1.50)
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Buses have to go above 60 in order to complete tt route in 20mins,. though not continously, obviously!!!Originally posted by SBS9818A:The O405Gs will have lots of problems manouvering inside SK Int. They are limited to 60km/h, and 2836T CANNOT go at 90km/h.
Hmm...but keep in mind tt the turning circle of a 0405G is less than that of a Volvo B10M, and it is good enuf for 2 buses to travel side by side in SKG.
I was thinking of swapping 172 and 180 berths at BNL, since svc 172 route is quite short and it has a very fast turnover time. This allows 180 drivers to rest at BNL. -
Turning circles do not mean anything. If the interchange was not designed for O405Gs then O405Gs won't materialize.Originally posted by TIB1186Z:Buses have to go above 60 in order to complete tt route in 20mins,. though not continously, obviously!!!
Hmm...but keep in mind tt the turning circle of a 0405G is less than that of a Volvo B10M, and it is good enuf for 2 buses to travel side by side in SKG.
I was thinking of swapping 172 and 180 berths at BNL, since svc 172 route is quite short and it has a very fast turnover time. This allows 180 drivers to rest at BNL. -
huh huh huh?Originally posted by SBS9818A:Turning circles do not mean anything. If the interchange was not designed for O405Gs then O405Gs won't materialize.
u sure?
it means a lot. if the bus can do turns better than a Volvo B10M or whateva in a confined space means the bus will go to that interchange. i mean look at WTC int. wd u ever expect a bendybus to do a 3 point there? no?
too bad 188 does 3 point parking.
look at SK int. even tho there are no place for bendybus to park. there is the fact that TIBS buses loop at SK int not park. and any bus can fit into a bus berth in ANY int..agree?
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What is 3-point parking? If it means the same as a 3-point turn, then I want to point out that 188 and 963 drivers normally park or reverse in 1 whole sequence. They don't go in, then reverse then go in again (and vice versa for reversing).Originally posted by xin1jun2:huh huh huh?
u sure?
it means a lot. if the bus can do turns better than a Volvo B10M or whateva in a confined space means the bus will go to that interchange. i mean look at WTC int. wd u ever expect a bendybus to do a 3 point there? no?
too bad 188 does 3 point parking.
look at SK int. even tho there are no place for bendybus to park. there is the fact that TIBS buses loop at SK int not park. and any bus can fit into a bus berth in ANY int..agree?
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Ok...that lets call it...half 3 point point parking =x
or is it called 2 point turn parking?
and no i dun drive
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Service ZYX58
once the Paya lebar and kaki bukit viaducts are up and running. i will introduce ZYX58.
ZYX58: BISHAN - PASIR RIS
via: BISHAN INT - bishna st 14, 13, 11, Bishan road, Braddel road, bartley road, Paya lebar viaduct - express - Kaiki bukit viaduct - express - tampines ave 10 - express - Tampines ave 1, 4 (Tampines MRT) , 7 - loyang ave, Pasir ris Drive 1 , Central - PASIR RIS INT
hehehhe darryl, service 238: what u think?
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SBS Service 1 from Changi Village - Jurong East via City...providing Jurong/Changi residents with fast connection to Singapore proper....
Changi Village Terminal - Changi Rd - Wittring Rd - Tangmere Rd - Cranwell Rd - Loyang Ave - TPE - Upper Changi Rd East - PIE - ECP - Rochor Rd - North Bridge Rd - Brasah Rd - Esplande Drive - Raffles Quay - Shenton Way - Keppel Rd - AYE - Clementi Ave - Commonwealth Ave - Boon Lay Way - Jurong East St 11 - Jurong East Town Hall Rd - Science Center Rd - Jurong Town Hall Rd - Jurong East Ave 1 - Jurong East St 21 - Jurong East St 11 - Toh Guan Rd - Jurong East Central - Jurong East Interchange
SBS Service 34 from Pasir Ris to HarbourFront via Tampines/PIE/City...providing Pasir Ris/Tampines residents with fast way to city plus doing a Sv 28 style loop at Tampines
...maybe need to downgrade/remove Sv 518 now 
Pasir Ris Interchange - Pasir Ris Dr 3 - Old Tampines Rd - Tampines Ave 7 - Tampines St 45 - Tampines Ave 9 - Tampines St 41 - Tampines Ave 4 - Tampines Ave 5 - Tampines St 71 - Tampines Ave 6 - Tampines Ave 1 - Tampines Ave 2 - Simei Ave - PIE - Bendemeer Rd - Lavender St - Crawford St - Nicoll Highway - Stamford Rd - Hill St - New Bridge Rd - Jalan Bukit Merah - Lower Delta Rd - Kampong Bahru Rd - Telok Blangah Rd - HarbourFront Interchange
Amended Service 28, Now does Pasir Ris - Toa Payoh...
Pasir Ris Interchange - Pasir Ris Dr 3 - Pasir Ris Dr 6 - Pasir Ris Dr 1 - Loyang Ave - Tampines Ave 7 - Tampines St 45 - Tampines Ave 9 - Tampines St 41 - Tampines Ave 7 - Tampines Ave 2 - PIE - Paya Lebar Rd - Upper Paya Leabr Rd - Bartley Rd - Braddell Rd - Toa Payoh Lor 6 - Toa Payoh Lor 4 - Toa Payoh Lor 6 - Toa Payoh Interchange -
Not bad.. Can be operated from TPY instead lolz..Originally posted by xin1jun2:Service ZYX58
once the Paya lebar and kaki bukit viaducts are up and running. i will introduce ZYX58.
ZYX58: BISHAN - PASIR RIS
via: BISHAN INT - bishna st 14, 13, 11, Bishan road, Braddel road, bartley road, Paya lebar viaduct - express - Kaiki bukit viaduct - express - tampines ave 10 - express - Tampines ave 1, 4 (Tampines MRT) , 7 - loyang ave, Pasir ris Drive 1 , Central - PASIR RIS INT
hehehhe darryl, service 238: what u think?
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As for now, CBS aka COp Bus Service will implement a route for trial in the near future after settling some online crap thing called the JAE. -
I'm puzzled,
In the first place, where at the entrance/ exit of Bartley Road Extn? Does Airport Road has it? -
Just my 2 cents worth. No offence intended.Originally posted by leeJZ:SBS Service 1 from Changi Village - Jurong East via City...providing Jurong/Changi residents with fast connection to Singapore proper....
Changi Village Terminal - Changi Rd - Wittring Rd - Tangmere Rd - Cranwell Rd - Loyang Ave - TPE - Upper Changi Rd East - PIE - ECP - Rochor Rd - North Bridge Rd - Brasah Rd - Esplande Drive - Raffles Quay - Shenton Way - Keppel Rd - AYE - Clementi Ave - Commonwealth Ave - Boon Lay Way - Jurong East St 11 - Jurong East Town Hall Rd - Science Center Rd - Jurong Town Hall Rd - Jurong East Ave 1 - Jurong East St 21 - Jurong East St 11 - Toh Guan Rd - Jurong East Central - Jurong East Interchange
SBS Service 34 from Pasir Ris to HarbourFront via Tampines/PIE/City...providing Pasir Ris/Tampines residents with fast way to city plus doing a Sv 28 style loop at Tampines ...maybe need to downgrade/remove Sv 518 now
Pasir Ris Interchange - Pasir Ris Dr 3 - Old Tampines Rd - Tampines Ave 7 - Tampines St 45 - Tampines Ave 9 - Tampines St 41 - Tampines Ave 4 - Tampines Ave 5 - Tampines St 71 - Tampines Ave 6 - Tampines Ave 1 - Tampines Ave 2 - Simei Ave - PIE - Bendemeer Rd - Lavender St - Crawford St - Nicoll Highway - Stamford Rd - Hill St - New Bridge Rd - Jalan Bukit Merah - Lower Delta Rd - Kampong Bahru Rd - Telok Blangah Rd - HarbourFront Interchange
Amended Service 28, Now does Pasir Ris - Toa Payoh...
Pasir Ris Interchange - Pasir Ris Dr 3 - Pasir Ris Dr 6 - Pasir Ris Dr 1 - Loyang Ave - Tampines Ave 7 - Tampines St 45 - Tampines Ave 9 - Tampines St 41 - Tampines Ave 7 - Tampines Ave 2 - PIE - Paya Lebar Rd - Upper Paya Leabr Rd - Bartley Rd - Braddell Rd - Toa Payoh Lor 6 - Toa Payoh Lor 4 - Toa Payoh Lor 6 - Toa Payoh Interchange
1. Note the areas in red. Those are within SAF boundaries (aka Changi Camp) so I dont think SBS buses will be allowed inside. Furthermore, there are no bus stops constructed inside the camp area.
2 Minor points - Brasah Road? Clementi Ave? Jurong East Town Hall Road?
3. I don't understand why with the introduction of 34, there must be a downgrade/removal of 518. Firstly, the route covered by 34 does not match those covered by 518 in any way. Furthermore, 518 provides access for people in Pasir Ris to Marina Centre, not Harbourfront.
4. Crawford Street goes beneath Nicoll Highway and there is no direct link for traffic to go from Crawford St to Nicoll Highway. -
check www.lta.gov.sg under Road Projects.Originally posted by th1988:I'm puzzled,
In the first place, where at the entrance/ exit of Bartley Road Extn? Does Airport Road has it? -
Thnx for the comments. I just pulled them off from StreetDirectory.Com so it might not be too accurate.Originally posted by delonchew:Just my 2 cents worth. No offence intended.
1. Note the areas in red. Those are within SAF boundaries (aka Changi Camp) so I dont think SBS buses will be allowed inside. Furthermore, there are no bus stops constructed inside the camp area.
2 Minor points - Brasah Road? Clementi Ave? Jurong East Town Hall Road?
3. I don't understand why with the introduction of 34, there must be a downgrade/removal of 518. Firstly, the route covered by 34 does not match those covered by 518 in any way. Furthermore, 518 provides access for people in Pasir Ris to Marina Centre, not Harbourfront.
4. Crawford Street goes beneath Nicoll Highway and there is no direct link for traffic to go from Crawford St to Nicoll Highway. -
Ok here are new routes..
SERVICE 1
Changi Village Terminal - Loyang Ave - TPE - Upper Changi Rd East - PIE - ECP - Rochor Rd - North Bridge Rd - Bras Basah Rd - Esplande Drive - Raffles Quay - Shenton Way - Keppel Rd - AYE - Clementi Rd - Commonwealth Ave - Boon Lay Way - Jurong East St 11 - Jurong Town Hall Rd - Science Center Rd - Jurong Town Hall Rd - Jurong East Ave 1 - Jurong East St 21 - Jurong East St 11 - Toh Guan Rd - Jurong East Central - Jurong East Interchange
SERVICE 34
Pasir Ris Interchange - Pasir Ris Dr 3 - Old Tampines Rd - Tampines Ave 7 - Tampines St 45 - Tampines Ave 9 - Tampines St 41 - Tampines Ave 4 - Tampines Ave 5 - Tampines St 71 - Tampines Ave 6 - Tampines Ave 1 - Tampines Ave 2 - Simei Ave - PIE - Bendemeer Rd - Lavender St - Victoria St - Bras Basah Rd - Esplande Dr - Cross St - New Bridge Rd - Jalan Bukit Merah - Lower Delta Rd - Kampong Bahru Rd - Telok Blangah Rd - HarbourFront Interchange -
Originally posted by leeJZ:
It should be C'wealth Ave West.
Ok here are new routes..
SERVICE 1
Changi Village Terminal - Loyang Ave - TPE - Upper Changi Rd East - PIE - ECP - Rochor Rd - North Bridge Rd - [b] Bras Basah Rd - Esplande Drive - Raffles Quay - Shenton Way - Keppel Rd - AYE - Clementi Rd - Commonwealth Ave - Boon Lay Way - Jurong East St 11 - Jurong Town Hall Rd - Science Center Rd - Jurong Town Hall Rd - Jurong East Ave 1 - Jurong East St 21 - Jurong East St 11 - Toh Guan Rd - Jurong East Central - Jurong East Interchange [/b]
Why the long winding route? How do Jurong East St 21 connects with Jurong East St 11?
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Originally posted by leeJZ:
Those highlighted in red are wrong road connections or missing roads.
SERVICE 34
Pasir Ris Interchange - Pasir Ris Dr 3 - Old Tampines Rd - Tampines Ave 7 - Tampines St 45 - Tampines Ave 9 - Tampines St 41 - Tampines Ave 4 - Tampines Ave 5 - Tampines St 71 - Tampines Ave 6 - Tampines Ave 1 - Tampines Ave 2 - Simei Ave - PIE - Bendemeer Rd - Lavender St - [b]Victoria St - Bras Basah Rd - Esplande Dr - Cross St - New Bridge Rd - Jalan Bukit Merah - Lower Delta Rd - Kampong Bahru Rd - Telok Blangah Rd - HarbourFront Interchange
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My fantasy bus route? Hmmm.... Let me think....
Woodlands - Temasek Boulevard (Loop)
WDL REG INT, Woodlands Ave 3, BKE, PIE, Whitley Rd, Dunearn Rd, Scotts Rd, Orchard Rd, Bras Basah Rd,Temasek Blvd, Temasek Ave,Raffles Ave,Stamford Road,Orchard Rd, Penang Rd,Somerset Rd, Ochard Turn, Orchard Blvd,Scotts Rd, Bt Timah Rd,Whitley Rd, BKE, PIE, Woodlands Ave 3, WDL REG INT
I also would like the former link between Choa Chu Kang, Bt Batok and Changi Airport to be reinstated provided the route is not circuitous. I believe if the route is well planned, it could generate revenue.
I also would like a sv between Bt Panjang and Toa Payoh. Perhaps the service could pass by CCK first b4 heading towards Toa Payoh.
How bout CCK to Sengkang? or Bt Panjang to Sengkang?
Bt Batok to Sengkang would also be good. Perhaps via Bt Panjang or CCK?
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As for now, CBS aka COp Bus Service is now concentrating on operating services from the eastern-most interchange - PSR. Currently Service 20 is in operation from PSR to KNR (Kent Ridge) Route details refer to earlier posts in this thread.
CBS is currently undergoing a study of a route from Pasir Ris to the central part of Singapore. Although CBS20 has provided that link to Toa Payoh, more links need to establish in order to wipe out SBST and TIBS
CBS20 duplicates SBST95 in one portion but it does not duplicate any current SBST or TIBS route. I think SBST95 will face withdrawal by 14 Mar 2004.
Report of commuter usage of CBS20
Weekday
AM Peak: High volumes of HCJC NJC NYGH TCH students from Tampines to their schools. High Volumes of MJC students from PSR to MJC. Fortunately, 5 min frequency is enough to sustain the loads of working people from Tampines and Pasir Ris to Buona Vista/NUS and vice versa.
AM Off-Peak: Average volumes of commuters from Toa Payoh to Tampines and from Pasir Ris to Tampines. MJC Students use this service frequently to reach Tampines Central in under 12min. Volumes of dismissed students also use this service to go home in the afternoons.
PM Peak: Working personnel use this service to get from Holland V and Bt Timah to Tampines and vice versa.
PM Off-Peak: Low demand of commuter usage. Not more findings recorded.
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Originally posted by service_238:
With such a long journey, not sure if CBS20 can be as frequent and regular as SBST95. I would definitely wish to have CBS20, having have to travel from HV to SSMC daily, it will be of great help.
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well done u have just quoted ZYX>.700 for me. thanksOriginally posted by kuang:My fantasy bus route? Hmmm.... Let me think....
Woodlands - Temasek Boulevard (Loop)
WDL REG INT, Woodlands Ave 3, BKE, PIE, Whitley Rd, Dunearn Rd, Scotts Rd, Orchard Rd, Bras Basah Rd,Temasek Blvd, Temasek Ave,Raffles Ave,Stamford Road,Orchard Rd, Penang Rd,Somerset Rd, Ochard Turn, Orchard Blvd,Scotts Rd, Bt Timah Rd,Whitley Rd, BKE, PIE, Woodlands Ave 3, WDL REG INT
I also would like the former link between Choa Chu Kang, Bt Batok and Changi Airport to be reinstated provided the route is not circuitous. I believe if the route is well planned, it could generate revenue.
I also would like a sv between Bt Panjang and Toa Payoh. Perhaps the service could pass by CCK first b4 heading towards Toa Payoh.
How bout CCK to Sengkang? or Bt Panjang to Sengkang?
Bt Batok to Sengkang would also be good. Perhaps via Bt Panjang or CCK?
Regards
Kai
note that is also ZYX NR>>700 a night rider service.
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