Bus Interchanges & Terminals In 1985
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I checked with my father and yes, Service 9 turned right into Upper Changi Road at the split junction. Interestingly, the "Upp Changi Rd" between Simei Rd and Upp Changi Rd East can still be seen up to this day.Originally posted by delonchew:Ok, I am basing my findings on the 1983, 1984 and 1988 street directories.
In 1984, there were 2 roads, Upper Changi Road and Upper Changi Road East which are linked together at one point. There is a split just after Somapah Road, near Changkat Changi Primary School there. There is also no presence of Simei Road at that time. Only Sunbird Ave existed then. See the image below.
I assume that Service 9 entered the right side of the split roads, thus Upper Changi Road between Bedok and Changi Point. Either that, or it turns right at Somapah Road (note the small road between Upper Changi Road and Upper Changi Road East with an arrow) and left again at Upper Changi Road (similar to current Service 2). However, this is just my presumption.
For further information. By 1988, this split road and the small Somapah Road were gone, to be replaced by current day Simei Rd which is still under construction then (shown as u/c inside the 1988 directory).
Cheers and warm regards -
Thanks for sloving my query.Originally posted by delonchew:Ok, I am basing my findings on the 1983, 1984 and 1988 street directories.
In 1984, there were 2 roads, Upper Changi Road and Upper Changi Road East which are linked together at one point. There is a split just after Somapah Road, near Changkat Changi Primary School there. There is also no presence of Simei Road at that time. Only Sunbird Ave existed then. See the image below.
I assume that Service 9 entered the right side of the split roads, thus Upper Changi Road between Bedok and Changi Point. Either that, or it turns right at Somapah Road (note the small road between Upper Changi Road and Upper Changi Road East with an arrow) and left again at Upper Changi Road (similar to current Service 2). However, this is just my presumption.
For further information. By 1988, this split road and the small Somapah Road were gone, to be replaced by current day Simei Rd which is still under construction then (shown as u/c inside the 1988 directory).
Note that Somapah terminal is not indicated on the map shown above. I remember that service 9 turned right into a small road after Somapah termianl, so the highest possibilty is that it used Somapah Rd, also it may used Gulega Rd but the chance is low.
At the split road junction, is it considered turning left or going straight when proceeding from Upp Changi Rd to Upp Changi Rd East? -
Thanks for taking the troubles to type the routes out.Originally posted by The_Bus_Guide:Alamak! So many! But for you all, The Bus Guide obliges! Info based on Bus Guide 1985, although 141, 151 and 186 is slightly different in Bus Guide 1980. Here we go!
75 Clementi - Empress Pl (loop)
Clementi Inter, Clementi Ave 3, C'wealth Ave West, Clementi Ave 2, Ulu Pandan Rd, Holland Rd, Napier Rd, Grange Rd, Irwell Bank Rd, Kim Seng Rd, Outram Rd, Cantonment Rd, Keppel Rd , Anson Rd, Robinson Rd, Empress Pl, St Andrew's Rd, Beach Rd, Bras Basah Rd, Nicoll Highway, Connaught Dr, Fullerton Rd, Collyer Quay, Raffles Quay, Shenton Way, Keppel Rd, Cantonment Link, Cantonment Rd, Outram Rd, Tiong Bahru Rd, Zion Rd, Hoot Kiam Rd, Grange Rd, Napier Rd, Holland Rd, Ulu Pandan Rd, Clementi Rd, C'wealth Ave West, Clementi Ave 3 and Clementi Inter.
141 Toa Payoh - Cecil St (loop) OMO 60c
Toa Payoh Inter, Lor 2 Toa Payoh, Jln Toa Payoh, Thomson Rd, Newton Rd, Clemenceau Ave, Orchard Rd, Bras Basah Rd, Nicoll Highway, Connaught Dr, Fullerton Rd, Collyer Quay, Raffles Quay, Shenton Way, Keppel Rd, Anson Rd, Cecil St, Collyer Quay, Fullerton Rd, Empress Pl, St Andrew's Rd, Coleman St, Armenian St, Stamford Rd, Dhoby Ghaut, Selegie Rd, Bt Timah Rd, Kg Java Rd, Thomson Rd, Jln Toa Payoh, Lor 2 Toa Payoh, Lor 6 Toa Payoh,Toa Payoh Inter.
151 Toa Payoh - New Bridge Rd (loop)
Toa Payoh Inter, Toa Payoh Lor 2, Jln Toa Payoh, Whitley Rd, Stevens Rd, Scotts Rd, Paterson Rd, Paterson Hill, Irwell Bank Rd, Kim Seng Rd, Outram Rd, Cantonment Rd, Neil Rd, New Bridge Rd, Outram Rd, Tiong Bahru Rd, Zion Rd, Hoot Kiam Rd, Paterson Hill, Paterson Rd, Scotts Rd, Stevens Rd, Whitley Rd, Jln Toa Payoh, Toa Payoh Lor 2, Lor 6 and Toa Payoh Inter.
For service 141, wonder why the bus ply Clemeanceau Ave in only one direction.
For service 151, I think this was faster to get from Toa Payoh to Outram Park than service 143. -
Note that present service 145 covers the route of service 186 between C'wealth Ave and Keppel Rd, when service 145 was amended from Kent Ridge to Buona Vista.Originally posted by The_Bus_Guide:186 Clementi - Prince Edward
Clementi Inter, Clementi Ave 3, C'wealth Ave West, C'wealth Ave, Alexandra Rd, Tiong Bahru Rd, Henderson Rd, Telok Blangah Rd, Keppel Rd, Anson Rd, Prince Edward Rd and Prince Edward Ter.
Prince Edward Ter, Prince Edward Rd, Shenton Way, Keppel Rd, Telok Blangah Rd, Henderson Rd, Tiong Bahru Rd, Alexandra Rd, C'wealth Ave, C'wealth Ave West, Clementi Ave 3 and Clementi Inter.
209 Clementi - Crawford St
Clementi Inter, Clementi Ave 3, C'wealth Ave West, C'wealth Ave, Alexandra Rd, Tiong Bahru Rd, Outram Rd, New Bridge Rd, Hill St, Victoria St, Jln Sultan, Beach Rd and Crawford St.
Crawford St, Nth Nridge Rd, Sth Bridge Rd, Neil Rd, New Bridge Rd, Outram Rd, Tiong Bahru Rd, Alexandra Rd, C'wealth Ave, C'wealth Ave West, Clementi Ave 3 and Clementi Inter.
I also known of a private service 186 that ply the same route as SBS service 186 in the 1990s. -
But I believed that it used Somapah Rd instead. (see my previous post)Originally posted by Superbus:I checked with my father and yes, Service 9 turned right into Upper Changi Road at the split junction. Interestingly, the "Upp Changi Rd" between Simei Rd and Upp Changi Rd East can still be seen up to this day.
Cheers and warm regards -
No problem. Hope it could be of some help to your queries.Originally posted by tranquilice:Thanks for sloving my query.
Note that Somapah terminal is not indicated on the map shown above. I remember that service 9 turned right into a small road after Somapah termianl, so the highest possibilty is that it used Somapah Rd, also it may used Gulega Rd but the chance is low.
At the split road junction, is it considered turning left or going straight when proceeding from Upp Changi Rd to Upp Changi Rd East?
As I don't know the road conditions then, I am thus not very sure of what was the exact route that 9 could have taken. But, I am more inclined to think that the route that 9 took at this split road was exactly what Superbus had mentioned, that it took the right side leading to Upper Changi Road. However, I believe you are not wrong in stating that 9 turned right after Somapah Terminal. Note that Somapah Terminal was not mentioned in this '84 directory. Now look at this image below.
This was taken out of a '88 street directory of the same area. I must apologise as I only have the '88 version and none of those between '84 and '88. Now, Somapah Terminal is present but the split roads is gone. This is replaced by a road that is similar to current day Simei Road (look at the u/c). So, I assume that this is the point where 9 turned right and left again to take the route that is similar to current day 2.
To your other question, I believe that the split road here is similar to the one in Scotts Road. This is, however, my presumption only. -
Yes, I also wondered why Somapah terminal is not indicated in the 1984 directory, since it started operations in around 1981 (?)Originally posted by delonchew:No problem. Hope it could be of some help to your queries.
As I don't know the road conditions then, I am thus not very sure of what was the exact route that 9 could have taken. But, I am more inclined to think that the route that 9 took at this split road was exactly what Superbus had mentioned, that it took the right side leading to Upper Changi Road. However, I believe you are not wrong in stating that 9 turned right after Somapah Terminal. Note that Somapah Terminal was not mentioned in this '84 directory. Now look at this image below.
This was taken out of a '88 street directory of the same area. I must apologise as I only have the '88 version and none of those between '84 and '88. Now, Somapah Terminal is present but the split roads is gone. This is replaced by a road that is similar to current day Simei Road (look at the u/c). So, I assume that this is the point where 9 turned right and left again to take the route that is similar to current day 2.
To your other question, I believe that the split road here is similar to the one in Scotts Road. This is, however, my presumption only.
So for now, there are 2 route possibilites that service 9 plied, that is, the split road at Upp Changi Rd/Upp Changi Rd East and Somapah Rd connecting Upp Changi Rd and Upp Changi Rd East. -
For those interested to see how Chai Chee Terminal looks like, there is a small shot of it showing the boarding facilities (with service 18 in the foreground) on the cover of the 1979 Bedok New Bus Plan book. The book is being displayed in the TIBS shop at Yishun Interchange.
The boarding facilities reminds me of current Clementi Interchange. -
Is the place as cramped as Clementi Int?Originally posted by Yusry:For those interested to see how Chai Chee Terminal looks like, there is a small shot of it showing the boarding facilities (with service 18 in the foreground) on the cover of the 1979 Bedok New Bus Plan book. The book is being displayed in the TIBS shop at Yishun Interchange.
The boarding facilities reminds me of current Clementi Interchange. -
Yes it does look a little like the Clementi Interchange. Quite cramped in my opinion.Originally posted by Yusry:For those interested to see how Chai Chee Terminal looks like, there is a small shot of it showing the boarding facilities (with service 18 in the foreground) on the cover of the 1979 Bedok New Bus Plan book. The book is being displayed in the TIBS shop at Yishun Interchange.
The boarding facilities reminds me of current Clementi Interchange.
I used to pester my mum to bring me to Chai Chee market to eat fishball noodles behind Chai Chee Terminal because I used to stay there. Hehehe. -
And look at buses at the same time right?Originally posted by delonchew:Yes it does look a little like the Clementi Interchange. Quite cramped in my opinion.
I used to pester my mum to bring me to Chai Chee market to eat fishball noodles behind Chai Chee Terminal because I used to stay there. Hehehe.