Who pay for those bus guides in Bus Stops?
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Recently many (Adshell) bus stops have bus guides posted on one of the advertising panel.
It's good to have these bus guides, they are very informative. However who pay for these bus guides? Adshell, LTA or bus companies?
How much they spent on these bus guides? Imagine revenue loss by Adshell as one of their advertising panels are now replace with bus guides.
Or LTA pity Adshell and buy the advertising space from Adshell?
If bus companies paying for the bus guides, then as a commuter, I would rather bus companies not to spend on such 'Added Services'. Ultimately bus commuters pay for such 'Added services'.
Whoever comes out with such bus guides have thought about the maintenance issues? Bus companines will now think thrice to amend/add a service.
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[quote]Originally posted by iamgoondu:
............Whoever comes out with such bus guides have thought about the maintenance issues? .........
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I don't know how much the bus companies think about these maintenance issues. Even the info on their websites is not up to date - and thats supposed to be much easier to maintain -
I doubt LTA/bus companies/Adshell have the intention of puting up bus guides at those bus stops in the first place.
One have to go near to the panel to look at the route details, and the panel was blocked by the bench located right infront of the panel.
I supposed (and hoped so) LTA pays for the advertising space (from the revenues it received from Adshell).
And I believe bus companies would pay for whatever maintenance required (like add/edit or remove) a service.
I sincerely hope we people would followed truly the drive to cutwaste! No matter how many suggestions we put up to Cutwaste panel, our rate is not able to catch up with those with the inkling to spend, to spend and to spend. -
Perhaps it is cheaper to print the Bus Guide and distribute for free to each and every household in Singapore.
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But if you look carefully, only those bus stops by Adshel that were built earlier comes with the glass panels for the guides. The newer ones (built in 2003) does not come with them.
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???Originally posted by off_service:But if you look carefully, only those bus stops by Adshel that were built earlier comes with the glass panels for the guides. The newer ones (built in 2003) does not come with them.
I refer to those newer ones (bulit in 2003). These bus stops (along Holland Road, Commonwealth Ave, Clementi Road...) now have bus guides in one of the 2 advertising panels. Almost all Adshell busstops with those 2 advertising panels now have one of them taken up by bus guides.
You probably have yet to notice those bus guides. -
All the bus stops in Sembawang by Adshel doesn't have the glass panelsOriginally posted by iamgoondu:???
I refer to those newer ones (bulit in 2003). These bus stops (along Holland Road, Commonwealth Ave, Clementi Road...) now have bus guides in one of the 2 advertising panels. Almost all Adshell busstops with those 2 advertising panels now have one of them taken up by bus guides.
You probably have yet to notice those bus guides.
Don't tell me neighbourhood towns should be deprived of the useful information. -
Some do. Bishan St 22 BS opposite Catholic High, although old, has Adshel panels for advertisements. Instead its unused.Originally posted by off_service:But if you look carefully, only those bus stops by Adshel that were built earlier comes with the glass panels for the guides. The newer ones (built in 2003) does not come with them. -
Probably they realized that those neighbourhood bustops will not have many services running through.Originally posted by off_service:All the bus stops in Sembawang by Adshel doesn't have the glass panels Don't tell me neighbourhood towns should be deprived of the useful information. 
Anyway all busstops (4 of them) along Holland Ave (with only 4 services) have detailed bus route information on those 4 services. It is good to have but it is ok to do without them too. -
the new bus guides in these Adshell bus stops provide essential information like First Bus Arrival Time and Last Bus Arrival Time for all buses calling at the bus stops.
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i dare say the tax on smokers. haha
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Bukit Batok also neighbourhood, they have those glass panels for guides.Originally posted by iamgoondu:Probably they realized that those neighbourhood bustops will not have many services running through.
Anyway all busstops (4 of them) along Holland Ave (with only 4 services) have detailed bus route information on those 4 services. It is good to have but it is ok to do without them too. -
??Originally posted by dumbdumb!:i dare say the tax on smokers. haha 
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True. Yishun bus stops are progressively upgraded from 2002-2003, and all have the advertising panels, including the relatively smaller stop that i depend on.
However, I have yet to see anything on the panels yet xcept the offical warning from the LTA against illegal posts. -
Yah.....they installed in 2002 and then its left there. If im not wrong, the pair of bus stops has the glass panels. Dunno why they want to install them. Perhaps as a desperate attempt to "modernise" the bus stop?Originally posted by SBS9818A:Some do. Bishan St 22 BS opposite Catholic High, although old, has Adshel panels for advertisements. Instead its unused.
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And they paste a notice saying "Paste no bills" when its obviously meant for that purpose.Originally posted by TIB1186Z:Yah.....they installed in 2002 and then its left there. If im not wrong, the pair of bus stops has the glass panels. Dunno why they want to install them. Perhaps as a desperate attempt to "modernise" the bus stop? -
Seems like noone has the answer as to who pay for the bus guides. Hopefully the monies is not from the smokers, else the smokers will have to pay more and more each year.
Maintenance for these bus guides is not cheap. It's not cheap if the bus guides incur recurring monthly charges for renting of those advertising panels.
Every savings count,
It estimates that it can save $200 a year for every 50m stretch of dimmer lighting.
unfortunately the savings may not be sufficient to maintain those bus guides. -
I think the transport companies pay for the bus guides.Originally posted by iamgoondu:Seems like noone has the answer as to who pay for the bus guides. Hopefully the monies is not from the smokers, else the smokers will have to pay more and more each year.
Maintenance for these bus guides is not cheap. It's not cheap if the bus guides incur recurring monthly charges for renting of those advertising panels.
Every savings count,
It estimates that it can save $200 a year for every 50m stretch of dimmer lighting.
unfortunately the savings may not be sufficient to maintain those bus guides. -
I doubt bus companies pay for the bus guides. Rather LTA is more probable. That's how our BUS SUBSIDY are being SPENT, I believe.Originally posted by SBS9818A:I think the transport companies pay for the bus guides. -
The guides could be paid for by ad revenue.Originally posted by iamgoondu:I doubt bus companies pay for the bus guides. Rather LTA is more probable. That's how our BUS SUBSIDY are being SPENT, I believe. -
The "notice boards", (2 off 1mx1m frames at the back of the shelter) are paid for by Adshel. They were part of the DBO contract with LTA. The left hand noticeboard is for Town council to use and the right hand is for LTA Transit Link to place the bus timetable.
Transitlink have commenced the rollout of the timetables island wide. Approx 50% of the 3000 Adshel sites have noticeboards, this number and the locations were determined by LTA prior to tender based on number of services. LTA can be contacted to install more if deemed required. Contrary to some of the posts, LTA do not pay Adshel for the display of posters in the noticeboards. Only the Adpanel 1.8x1.2m display at the end of the shelter is used for advertising.
Hope this helps.
PS. LTA Road Projects and Maintenance look after all bus shelters in Singapore and the control of both Adshel ,JCD and other contractors. The bus operators have no jurastriction or payments to look after the bus shelters or associated street furniture. -
Thanks for the clarifications. Do you work with Adshel?Originally posted by Adshel:The "notice boards", (2 off 1mx1m frames at the back of the shelter) are paid for by Adshel. They were part of the DBO contract with LTA. The left hand noticeboard is for Town council to use and the right hand is for LTA Transit Link to place the bus timetable.
Transitlink have commenced the rollout of the timetables island wide. Approx 50% of the 3000 Adshel sites have noticeboards, this number and the locations were determined by LTA prior to tender based on number of services. LTA can be contacted to install more if deemed required. Contrary to some of the posts, LTA do not pay Adshel for the display of posters in the noticeboards. Only the Adpanel 1.8x1.2m display at the end of the shelter is used for advertising.
Hope this helps.
PS. LTA Road Projects and Maintenance look after all bus shelters in Singapore and the control of both Adshel ,JCD and other contractors. The bus operators have no jurastriction or payments to look after the bus shelters or associated street furniture.
Anyway, what is jurastriction? Or do you mean jurisdiction?
Cheers and warm regards -
Thanks for the clarifications. It's indeed helpful. I'm sorry for those unnecessary speculations.Originally posted by Adshel:The "notice boards", (2 off 1mx1m frames at the back of the shelter) are paid for by Adshel. They were part of the DBO contract with LTA. The left hand noticeboard is for Town council to use and the right hand is for LTA Transit Link to place the bus timetable.
Transitlink have commenced the rollout of the timetables island wide. Approx 50% of the 3000 Adshel sites have noticeboards, this number and the locations were determined by LTA prior to tender based on number of services. LTA can be contacted to install more if deemed required. Contrary to some of the posts, LTA do not pay Adshel for the display of posters in the noticeboards. Only the Adpanel 1.8x1.2m display at the end of the shelter is used for advertising.
Hope this helps.
PS. LTA Road Projects and Maintenance look after all bus shelters in Singapore and the control of both Adshel ,JCD and other contractors. The bus operators have no jurastriction or payments to look after the bus shelters or associated street furniture. -
Thanks 4 the info. At least now we know who pays for the guides.Anyway, are you an Adshel worker?Originally posted by Adshel:The "notice boards", (2 off 1mx1m frames at the back of the shelter) are paid for by Adshel. They were part of the DBO contract with LTA. The left hand noticeboard is for Town council to use and the right hand is for LTA Transit Link to place the bus timetable.
Transitlink have commenced the rollout of the timetables island wide. Approx 50% of the 3000 Adshel sites have noticeboards, this number and the locations were determined by LTA prior to tender based on number of services. LTA can be contacted to install more if deemed required. Contrary to some of the posts, LTA do not pay Adshel for the display of posters in the noticeboards. Only the Adpanel 1.8x1.2m display at the end of the shelter is used for advertising.
Hope this helps.
PS. LTA Road Projects and Maintenance look after all bus shelters in Singapore and the control of both Adshel ,JCD and other contractors. The bus operators have no jurastriction or payments to look after the bus shelters or associated street furniture. -
Yes I am an employee of Adshel.
I apologise for the spelling mistake in my initial reply.