which bus models (sbs,tibs,css)will be phased out

• cck_190

  2 May 04, 22:48

  Originally posted by freakybuses:
  Maybe SBST will buy these bus models:
  
  [b]Mercedes Benz Citaro Ü
  Mercedes Benz Conneto H
  

  Maybe Tibs will buy the Citaro, not SBS. SBS depends more on Volvo for their buses...they have some sort of partnership
• iveco

  3 May 04, 11:10

  Originally posted by SBS9818A:

  Wait long long. With SBST dependency on Volvo it looks like they'll have Volvos for the rest of their operations.

  Tibs have high dependency on Mercs. They could bring them in after they have disposed of their SB220s and CRLs.
• SBS9818A

  3 May 04, 20:45

  Originally posted by iveco:

  Tibs have high dependency on Mercs. They could bring them in after they have disposed of their SB220s and CRLs.

  Maybe not. TIBS tend to buy buses that suit their needs. It's just that the O405Gs happen to fill this requirement.
• sneezelam

  16 Jun 04, 07:01

  Originally posted by SBS9818A:

  Of course I know HK uses the MAN 24.310, but there are no 2-axle versions from what I know of.

  It is easy to guess the answer out.
  How can a bus with a full loading of 24tonnes can fit with ONLY 2 axles?
  If that's happened, the axles must be VERY STRONG enough to support.
• leeJZ

  16 Jun 04, 08:30

  Originally posted by SBS9818A:

  Maybe not. TIBS tend to buy buses that suit their needs. It's just that the O405Gs happen to fill this requirement.

  Then maybe Volvos fit SBST's requirements?
• SBS9818A

  16 Jun 04, 10:11

  Originally posted by leeJZ:

  Then maybe Volvos fit SBST's requirements?

  In my opinion, no. Many drivers have said they prefer O405s to B10Ms. IMO, the O405 offers a much better ride for drivers and pax. Plus with the additional standing room, can make more money if full. I really don't understand what SBST is doing sometimes.
• leeJZ

  16 Jun 04, 10:41

  Originally posted by SBS9818A:

  In my opinion, no. Many drivers have said they prefer O405s to B10Ms. IMO, the O405 offers a much better ride for drivers and pax. Plus with the additional standing room, can make more money if full. I really don't understand what SBST is doing sometimes.

  Then cant they remove seats in the Volvos?
• SBS9818A

  16 Jun 04, 10:44

  Originally posted by leeJZ:

  Then cant they remove seats in the Volvos?

  If you opened your eyes wider and paid more attention, you would notice that the seats on B10M are always elevated from aisle height. Explain to me then, how can they have extra standing room?
• iveco

  16 Jun 04, 10:45

  Originally posted by sneezelam:

  It is easy to guess the answer out.
  How can a bus with a full loading of 24tonnes can fit with ONLY 2 axles?
  If that's happened, the axles must be VERY STRONG enough to support.

  The era of 2x DD buses is passe. This is the age of ADDs, which means 3x DD buses. It is good to see the 24-310s alongside the VSOs and Tridents.
• leeJZ

  16 Jun 04, 10:46

  Originally posted by SBS9818A:

  If you opened your eyes wider and paid more attention, you would notice that the seats on B10M are always elevated from aisle height. Explain to me then, how can they have extra standing room?

  ok...
  
  but dont you think SBST chose Volvos for a reason? Maybe they always give discounts?
• service_238

  16 Jun 04, 11:24

  Originally posted by leeJZ:

  ok...
  
  but dont you think SBST chose Volvos for a reason? Maybe they always give discounts?

  They have corporate links which each other.
• SBS9818A

  16 Jun 04, 11:50

  Originally posted by leeJZ:

  ok...
  
  but dont you think SBST chose Volvos for a reason? Maybe they always give discounts?

  No such things as discount. Discount would amount to corruption. SBST buy Volvo because their parent company is the sole Volvo Bus distributor in SG.
• leeJZ

  16 Jun 04, 12:10

  Originally posted by SBS9818A:

  No such things as discount. Discount would amount to corruption. SBST buy Volvo because their parent company is the sole Volvo Bus distributor in SG.

  OK that is the reason then...why do you still say you dont understand why SBST buys Volvo?
• SBS9818A

  16 Jun 04, 12:17

  [quote]Originally posted by leeJZ:
  
  
  OK that is the reason then...why do you still say you dont understand why SBST buys Volvo?[/quote
  
  I don't understand because Volvo doesn't really suit its needs.
• sneezelam

  16 Jun 04, 13:06

  Originally posted by iveco:

  The era of 2x DD buses is passe. This is the age of ADDs, which means 3x DD buses. It is good to see the 24-310s alongside the VSOs and Tridents.

  The era for 2x DD is just passed in Hong Kong and Singapore, but not UK XDDDD, however, as I know, those MAN and Neoplan in Hong Kong are always overheated......So....they are really not good as what you think.
  
  For those Neoplan Centroliners, they are excellent Super BASS Sound makers.......BAD!
• SBS9818A

  16 Jun 04, 19:30

  Originally posted by sneezelam:

  The era for 2x DD is just passed in Hong Kong and Singapore, but not UK XDDDD, however, as I know, those MAN and Neoplan in Hong Kong are always overheated......So....they are really not good as what you think.
  
  For those Neoplan Centroliners, they are excellent Super BASS Sound makers.......BAD!

  Overheated due to too much insulation or stress from urban driving?
• sneezelam

  16 Jun 04, 21:12

  Originally posted by SBS9818A:

  Overheated due to too much insulation or stress from urban driving?

  I have no idea. Since I am not an expert. But I do think that's not a reason, as those Neoplan Centroliner s are mainly serving Expressway routes.
• iveco

  2 Jul 04, 23:34

  Originally posted by sneezelam:

  I have no idea. Since I am not an expert. But I do think that's not a reason, as those Neoplan Centroliner s are mainly serving Expressway routes.

  Does that mean all MAN buses are prone to overheating?
  
  If that is the case, is it why SBS only has one MAN 16-240?
  
  Are 18-280s used on Malaysian roads safe, then?