Waited for 45 minutes for TIBS 61
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This evening I had waited for 45 minutes for TIBS 61.
I waited for TIBS61 outside Sri Marimann Temple (South Bridge Road) at 1820h. The bus arrived at 1908h.
During the wait, 2 no of SBST 197, 2 no of SBST 166, 2 no of CSS 608 and even 2 no of SBST 145 had passed.
Frequency for TIBS 61 is 12-14 minutes, a waiting time of 45 minutes is simply unbearable, unacceptable.
One commuter asked the bus driver, why such a long wait? And the driver answered apolegetically "Flood causing a heavy jam."
Is there a flood at that hour? Anyway I had sent a complaint to TIBS and PTC (sent email to [email protected], I got this from their website, seems like [email protected] is more likely), let's hope that PTC will closely monitor TIBS61 in their upcoming audit. -
Well yes... some parts of Singapore are flooded becos of today's rain. Lots of vehicles have to travel on the roads slowly and therefore a jam would come in. If you have look through the TIBS Svc Guide that is put on the racks of the buses, it's clearly stated that "Adverse Traffic and Weather Conditions, and even passenger activities may affect the frequency of the service and journey time." This does apply to SBST bus services as well. Therefore, don't grumble if buses come in at a higher frequency. I've ever waited Sv 105 for 1 hour and 15 mins during a day, whereby there was adverse traffic and weather condition.Originally posted by iamgoondu:This evening I had waited for 45 minutes for TIBS 61.
I waited for TIBS61 outside Sri Marimann Temple (South Bridge Road) at 1820h. The bus arrived at 1908h.
During the wait, 2 no of SBST 197, 2 no of SBST 166, 2 no of CSS 608 and even 2 no of SBST 145 had passed.
Frequency for TIBS 61 is 12-14 minutes, a waiting time of 45 minutes is simply unbearable, unacceptable.
One commuter asked the bus driver, why such a long wait? And the driver answered apolegetically "Flood causing a heavy jam."
Is there a flood at that hour? Anyway I had sent a complaint to TIBS and PTC (sent email to [email protected], I got this from their website, seems like [email protected] is more likely), let's hope that PTC will closely monitor TIBS61 in their upcoming audit. -
1 hr 15min?! I'd rather take some other services by then... hahaha...Originally posted by SBS9816E:Well yes... some parts of Singapore are flooded becos of today's rain. Lots of vehicles have to travel on the roads slowly and therefore a jam would come in. If you have look through the TIBS Svc Guide that is put on the racks of the buses, it's clearly stated that "Adverse Traffic and Weather Conditions, and even passenger activities may affect the frequency of the service and journey time." This does apply to SBST bus services as well. Therefore, don't grumble if buses come in at a higher frequency. I've ever waited Sv 105 for 1 hour and 15 mins during a day, whereby there was adverse traffic and weather condition. -
I would not have waited for 1h 15min, my max would be 45 minutes. However it is possible that there is no alternative services.Originally posted by service_238:1 hr 15min?! I'd rather take some other services by then... hahaha...
Perhaps it's time for PTC to fulfil their role, to establish a communication systems between bus captains and HQ officer. The bus captains may update of road conditions and bus load via walkie talkie to their HQ officer. The HQ officer may then relay the information to other bus captains.
For instance, bus captain of CSS608 if have a walkie talkie may receive information from HQ, and inform commuters at busstops of adverse road conditions which may affect TIBS61...
GPS??? Just another blood sucking machine ..
World Class Transportation System? I ..... -
There was indeed a flood and don't forget the great Jln Eunos jam during that period.
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Indeed there is a flood, however can we just brush it off? I meant shouldn't they establish a kind of communication systems that allows downsteam commuters to know that bus will allow late.....Originally posted by SBS9818A:There was indeed a flood and don't forget the great Jln Eunos jam during that period.
And should they despatch some buses at some convenient points? Why SBST 197, SBST 166, SBST 145 and CSS608 not affected at all??? -
Because the other services you mentioned wasn't stuck in the floods, like Service 61.Originally posted by iamgoondu:And should they despatch some buses at some convenient points? Why SBST 197, SBST 166, SBST 145 and CSS608 not affected at all???
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Ya true indeed,Man!Originally posted by Superbus:Because the other services you mentioned wasn't stuck in the floods, like Service 61.
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So it seems the flood affected a pretty small area huh??! Only TIBS 61 affected.
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IN Singapore, wait long long if u want to have a communication system and despatch of emergency buses like these. Singaporeans are so typical that they love to follow instructions STRICTLY. So strictly that there's no room for flexibility. I sometimes find it sickening.Originally posted by iamgoondu:Indeed there is a flood, however can we just brush it off? I meant shouldn't they establish a kind of communication systems that allows downsteam commuters to know that bus will allow late.....
And should they despatch some buses at some convenient points? Why SBST 197, SBST 166, SBST 145 and CSS608 not affected at all???
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Well, I do not know if you watched the news and read the papers. Geylang/Paya Lebar/Telok Kurau/Tanjong Katong areas were the worst hit on Thursday, worst flooding in 36 years. Too bad I don't have a scanner. If not, I can show the picture where the Habit bus was pushed by 10 students from a nearby school when the bus was stuck at Jalan Turi.Originally posted by iamgoondu:So it seems the flood affected a pretty small area huh??! Only TIBS 61 affected.
Many other services were affected by the floods, not just Service 61. It's just too bad that it 'seemed' Service 61 was the 'worst' hit service due to the floods and massive jams at Geylang.
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I am very well aware of the jams, cars being soaked in water in car parks, and worst hit area is CISCO building near Eunos.....
What I want to bring up here is 'Shouldn't we have a communication system to inform downstream commuters of a massive jams, and to despatch buses at some convenient points???'
Doesn't TIBS HQ aware of the massive jams at Eunos? Doesn't their officers aware of their buses being locked up in waters and jams??? Doesn't the officers feel a need to despatch buses from other routes???
When LRT breakdown, SMRT had a backup plan, recall TIBS buses to ply on LRT route.
Bukit TImah is a flood prone area, and the schools there even have back up plans to pick up their students if there is a flood during examinations period.
Back up!!! Doesn't our bus companies has any back up plan if there is a massive jams????
Our meteorlogical office had predicted another thunderstorm on 21-22 March, are our bus companies prepared for another massivve jams???
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Sigh... so much for 'world class transportation system'
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Of course they are aware, but why send buses when they know traffic will definitely be clogged!Originally posted by iamgoondu:I am very well aware of the jams, cars being soaked in water in car parks, and worst hit area is CISCO building near Eunos.....
What I want to bring up here is 'Shouldn't we have a communication system to inform downstream commuters of a massive jams, and to despatch buses at some convenient points???'
Doesn't TIBS HQ aware of the massive jams at Eunos? Doesn't their officers aware of their buses being locked up in waters and jams??? Doesn't the officers feel a need to despatch buses from other routes???
When LRT breakdown, SMRT had a backup plan, recall TIBS buses to ply on LRT route.
Bukit TImah is a flood prone area, and the schools there even have back up plans to pick up their students if there is a flood during examinations period.
Back up!!! Doesn't our bus companies has any back up plan if there is a massive jams????
Our meteorlogical office had predicted another thunderstorm on 21-22 March, are our bus companies prepared for another massivve jams???
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Please... I meant send buses from a convenient and alternative routes...Originally posted by SBS9818A:Of course they are aware, but why send buses when they know traffic will definitely be clogged!
You meant send additional support buses to Eunos interchange and start plying from there???
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It's not convenient for TIBS to send in a bus halfway through the route. This isn't morning operations, after all.Originally posted by iamgoondu:Please... I meant send buses from a convenient and alternative routes...
You meant send additional support buses to Eunos interchange and start plying from there???
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Why the long waiting times? Very easy... Sometimes things like a casualty on the bus or an accident can explain why. Since the driver cant make it in time to the int/terminal, so the driver would have to start from a convenient place that he is from and it matches with the timesheet. This sentence was freshly given to me by SBS 9817 C's driver this morning.
There was a casualty in the bus. A late-50s lady had nose bleed and her knee fractured after the bus halted because of a car that has cut into his lane without signalling. When he alighted all the passengers at the next stop, he told me about this as i was looking at his timesheet
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So it is more convenient to ignore the long waiting times suffered by commuters.Originally posted by SBS9818A:It's not convenient for TIBS to send in a bus halfway through the route. This isn't morning operations, after all.
Why not convenient??? Why TIBS can't despatch a bus from Suntec terminal to start plying from City Hall station??? There is high demand for TIBS 61 from City Hall to Bukit Batok.
If TIBS has no spare buses, then PTC should require all bus companies to have a fleet of standby buses for unforseen circumstances.
Do you know that commuters in Commonwealth Drive are served only by TIBS 61???? Any for myself I prefer TIBS61 for it stops at Holland Ave. -
All companies have their constraints and ways of doing things. If let's say the buses are stuck at this place due to a jam, deploying all the buses they have onto the affected service has no use at all as all will be stuck.Originally posted by iamgoondu:So it is more convenient to ignore the long waiting times suffered by commuters.
Why not convenient??? Why TIBS can't despatch a bus from Suntec terminal to start plying from City Hall station??? There is high demand for TIBS 61 from City Hall to Bukit Batok.
If TIBS has no spare buses, then PTC should require all bus companies to have a fleet of standby buses for unforseen circumstances.
Do you know that commuters in Commonwealth Drive are served only by TIBS 61???? Any for myself I prefer TIBS61 for it stops at Holland Ave.
There's no use crying split milk over this. Be content with the current bus service. We might not see buses on the road next time. -
Please... i am not asking them to deploy buses right where it break down....And I am not requesting them to dispatch another bus when the earlier bus breakdown, the next bus will probably arrive in 15 minutes right??? Waiting for 30 minutes may not be too bad. For that particular incident, where the flood affected Eunos area and affected TIBS61, they could deploy buses from City Hall and start plying from there....Originally posted by off_service:All companies have their constraints and ways of doing things. If let's say the buses are stuck at this place due to a jam, deploying all the buses they have onto the affected service has no use at all as all will be stuck.
There's no use crying split milk over this. Be content with the current bus service. We might not see buses on the road next time.
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Do the 2 bus companies have such plan?
For example, let say there is a huge traffic jam in Orchard area, and service 7 buses (towards Bedok) are stuck in the jam, does SBST has plan to deploy empty service 7 buses that start service from Victoria St (for example) to Bedok? -
TIBS don't have spare buses! It is indeed more convenient to ignore passengers. Be thankful that we have a somewhat decent bus service. In the US people wait up to an hour for buses!Originally posted by iamgoondu:So it is more convenient to ignore the long waiting times suffered by commuters.
Why not convenient??? Why TIBS can't despatch a bus from Suntec terminal to start plying from City Hall station??? There is high demand for TIBS 61 from City Hall to Bukit Batok.
If TIBS has no spare buses, then PTC should require all bus companies to have a fleet of standby buses for unforseen circumstances.
Do you know that commuters in Commonwealth Drive are served only by TIBS 61???? Any for myself I prefer TIBS61 for it stops at Holland Ave. -
Not forgetting in Kuala Lumpur and Johor Bahru where i've experienced waiting 1hr 25mins/1hr 30mins respectively for the public buses .Originally posted by SBS9818A:TIBS don't have spare buses! It is indeed more convenient to ignore passengers. Be thankful that we have a somewhat decent bus service. In the US people wait up to an hour for buses! -
Not forgetting in Kuala Lumpur and Johor Bahru where i've experienced waiting 1hr 25mins/1hr 30mins respectively for the public buses .Originally posted by SBS9818A:TIBS don't have spare buses! It is indeed more convenient to ignore passengers. Be thankful that we have a somewhat decent bus service. In the US people wait up to an hour for buses! -
If I have not been to Texas, Austin, I would accept your words. However that's not true!!!Originally posted by SBS9818A:In the US people wait up to an hour for buses!
In Austin, all public buses have bus arrival time stated in all bus stops! Though most buses have an average of frequency of 30 minutes, they are very punctual (+/- 2 minute).
What's more, a monthly pass of USD15, allows you unlimited rides in all buses!!! And all buses have 2 bicycle racks at the front and back of buses, for commuters to ride with their bicycles.
Moreover, when buses are packed halfway through, the bus captains will radio their HQ, and HQ will dispatch another empty bus to continue the former route! I am really impressed.
Of course I have to admit, in Austin their sales tax is 7%. And 0.5% (if I remember correctly), are used to subsidise bus companies.
In Singapore, though SBST200 had stated bus arrival time in all bus stops, the bus arrival time may still be irregular (+/- 10 minutes).
It's irresponsible to say that the American waited up to an hour for buses. At least it's not true for Texas, Austin. If you work for bus companies, do spend a study trip in Austin!