Do you want SBST & TIBS to merge?
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If you do, why?
If you don't, also why? -
better not... roads will become so dull when seeing the bus of the same colours around s'pore....Originally posted by cck_190:If you do, why?
If you don't, also why? -
But the island caqn be spread into 2 parts such as xxx west & xxx east.The liveries can be changedOriginally posted by freakybuses:better not... roads will become so dull when seeing the bus of the same colours around s'pore.... -
No...with the many MRT lines springing up, more bus services will be chopped if they were one company.
What I'd like is that there is a 3rd company, and the system of giving interchanges to one company to control abolished and have all out competition
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No,I'm grateful with the current 2 companies,But better if the buses are fitted with variable kinds of bodies especially to SBST buses.
Rather than the common Alexander,Duple Metsec and Volgren bodies
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More companies, more competitions.
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If they do merge. They had better bring back 502 to its normal route from hougang to orchard before the NEL screwed up everything.
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Sengkang.Originally posted by ditzy:If they do merge. They had better bring back 502 to its normal route from hougang to orchard before the NEL screwed up everything. -
I rather it skipped the sengkang portion, drive thru hougang ave 2, hit YCK rd and head straight for CTE.Originally posted by tranquilice:Sengkang. -
Express 502 did have demand in Sengkang before amendment.Originally posted by ditzy:I rather it skipped the sengkang portion, drive thru hougang ave 2, hit YCK rd and head straight for CTE. -
No point. I'd rather have more bus companies.
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btw, comfort is coming upOriginally posted by SBS9818A:No point. I'd rather have more bus companies. -
There's no competition of any kind now IMO.
SBST and TIBS ain't allowed freely into each other's area of control.
SBST and TIBS services are withdrawn or amended to avoid duplication with the rail lines ( commonly known as waste of resources ).
Now tell me, where's the TRUE competition? -
Agreed! Where is it?Originally posted by off_service:There's no competition of any kind now IMO.
SBST and TIBS ain't allowed freely into each other's area of control.
SBST and TIBS services are withdrawn or amended to avoid duplication with the rail lines ( commonly known as waste of resources ).
Now tell me, where's the TRUE competition?
If they want REAL competition, buses should be allowed to duplicate rail lines, the bus companies should be allowed to roam wherever they want! -
eg. of a route duplicating MRT lines:Originally posted by cck_190:Agreed! Where is it?
If they want REAL competition, buses should be allowed to duplicate rail lines, the bus companies should be allowed to roam wherever they want!
SBS Svc EW (Changi Airport - Boon Lay)
Changi Airport PTB 1/2 Basement - Airport Boulevard - (PIE) - Upp Changi Rd East - New Upp Changi Rd - Changi Rd - Geylang Rd - Kallang Rd - Crawford St - North Bridge Rd - Church St - Raffles Quay - Shenton Way - (Keppel Rd) - Cantonment Link - Cantonment Rd - Outram Rd - Tiong Bahru Rd - Leng Kee Rd - Commonwealth Ave - Commonwealth Ave West - Boon Lay Way - Boon Lay Int
Return via
Boon Lay Way - Commonwealth Ave West - Commonwealth Ave - Leng Kee Rd - Tiong Bahru Rd - Outram Rd - Cantonment Rd - (Keppel Rd) - Anson Rd - Robinson Rd - Collyer Quay - Battery Rd - Eu Tong Sen St - Hill St - Victoria St - Kallang Rd - Sims Ave - Sims Ave East - New Upp Changi Rd - Upp Changi Rd East - (PIE) - Airport Boulevard - Changi Airport PTB 1/2 Basement
Compare the time taken by the route with the MRT and u will find out why the duplicated route needs to be withdrawn.[/b] -
Originally posted by freakybuses:
More like they are forcing pax on the MRT because it's much faster. Now that's NOT real competition. Real competition is only present if the route is ALLOWED to be maintained!
eg. of a route duplicating MRT lines:
[b]SBS Svc EW (Changi Airport - Boon Lay)
Changi Airport PTB 1/2 Basement - Airport Boulevard - (PIE) - Upp Changi Rd East - New Upp Changi Rd - Changi Rd - Geylang Rd - Kallang Rd - Crawford St - North Bridge Rd - Church St - Raffles Quay - Shenton Way - (Keppel Rd) - Cantonment Link - Cantonment Rd - Outram Rd - Tiong Bahru Rd - Leng Kee Rd - Commonwealth Ave - Commonwealth Ave West - Boon Lay Way - Boon Lay Int
Return via
Boon Lay Way - Commonwealth Ave West - Commonwealth Ave - Leng Kee Rd - Tiong Bahru Rd - Outram Rd - Cantonment Rd - (Keppel Rd) - Anson Rd - Robinson Rd - Collyer Quay - Battery Rd - Eu Tong Sen St - Hill St - Victoria St - Kallang Rd - Sims Ave - Sims Ave East - New Upp Changi Rd - Upp Changi Rd East - (PIE) - Airport Boulevard - Changi Airport PTB 1/2 Basement
Compare the time taken by the route with the MRT and u will find out why the duplicated route needs to be withdrawn.[/b][/b] -
yes there's no real competition on sg.. so it is better for them to merge.. they can have one less excuse they can use for fare increase....also the admin and management will also be cut by alot if they merge... and hopely they will pass all this saving to usOriginally posted by off_service:There's no competition of any kind now IMO.
SBST and TIBS ain't allowed freely into each other's area of control.
SBST and TIBS services are withdrawn or amended to avoid duplication with the rail lines ( commonly known as waste of resources ).
Now tell me, where's the TRUE competition? -
however, if merger really happens, many services will be withdrawn or amended... eg. 854 which duplicates the route of svc 25 from Bedok all the way to Hougang... and that's 3/4 of svc 25... another eg is svc 157 & 852... last time it was due to too much route duplication tt 852 has to be cut short to Bt Batok instead of Boon Lay as 852 & 157 had the same route from Lornie Rd all the way to Boon Lay... if the 2 major bus operators were to merge, the routes may be merged...but svcs 851, 852 & 853 have the same route in AMK except that 853 turns to AMK Ave 3 after AMK Ave 6... so another sacrifice.... most probably 852 may be gone instead of merging.Originally posted by I-like-flings(m):yes there's no real competition on sg.. so it is better for them to merge.. they can have one less excuse they can use for fare increase....also the admin and management will also be cut by alot if they merge... and hopely they will pass all this saving to us -
Services 157 and 852 have same route between Lornie Rd and Boon Lay?Originally posted by freakybuses:however, if merger really happens, many services will be withdrawn or amended... eg. 854 which duplicates the route of svc 25 from Bedok all the way to Hougang... and that's 3/4 of svc 25... another eg is svc 157 & 852... last time it was due to too much route duplication tt 852 has to be cut short to Bt Batok instead of Boon Lay as 852 & 157 had the same route from Lornie Rd all the way to Boon Lay... if the 2 major bus operators were to merge, the routes may be merged...but svcs 851, 852 & 853 have the same route in AMK except that 853 turns to AMK Ave 3 after AMK Ave 6... so another sacrifice.... most probably 852 may be gone instead of merging.
Service 852 faced withdrawal in 1996. -
Sv. 852 faced withdrawal due to poor demand and to appease pax, they cut it to Bukit Batok.Originally posted by tranquilice:Services 157 and 852 have same route between Lornie Rd and Boon Lay?
Service 852 faced withdrawal in 1996. -
What is pax?Originally posted by SBS9818A:Sv. 852 faced withdrawal due to poor demand and to appease pax, they cut it to Bukit Batok.
So it TIBS852 running at a loss? It there is duplication and PTC allows TIBS to remove TIBS852, why TIBS still insists on running at a loss?
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yes.. then we can see.. bendy superbuses.. hahaOriginally posted by cck_190:If you do, why?
If you don't, also why?
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Pax = PassengersOriginally posted by iamgoondu:What is pax?
Cheers and warm regards -
Service 852 is more like school-bus service.Originally posted by iamgoondu:What is pax?
So it TIBS852 running at a loss? It there is duplication and PTC allows TIBS to remove TIBS852, why TIBS still insists on running at a loss? -
Yes. Except for school release hours / peak hours, the number of passengers per bus normally will not exceed 10.Originally posted by tranquilice:Service 852 is more like school-bus service.