Are Express Svcs Really Useless Now?
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Many Express svcs have been withdrawn or amended in the past few years... Correct me if I am wrong and give comments abt express svcs
501: Originally plying between Hougang Ctrl and Suntec City. Extended to Sengkang to serve the residents of SK. Withdrawn in 2003 during NEL Rationalisation
502: Originally plying between Hougang Ctrl and Boon Lay. Extended to Sengkang to serve the residents in SK. Amended to ply between Boon Lay and Marina Ctr in 2003 during NEL Rationalisation.
503: Plying between Tampines and Marina Ctr... Extended to Pasir Ris and renumbered as 505 in 1999.
505: Extension of 503 and renumbered. Amended to ply to WTC / Bt Merah. This svc was amended in 2001 to ply between Pasir Ris and Moulmein Rd and renumbered as 518.
506: Originally and now plying between Jurong East and Bedok... In 2001, this svc was extended to Changi Airport but cut short to Bedok again in 2002.
507: Plying between Boon Lay and Marina Ctr... still serving as original route.
508: Plying between Sengkang and Outram/Robinson Rd... Withdrawn when 501 and 502 serve Sengkang.
511: Introduced after 501 extended to Sengkang. Alternative service to Marina Ctr
512: Introduced after 502 extended to Sengkang. Alternative service to Outram Rd/Robinson Rd
518: Renumbered after amendment of 505. Plying between Pasir Ris and Moulmein Rd
520: One of the early introduced Express services. Originally plying between Yishun and Chinatown. Withdrawn in 2003 due to poor demand.
521: Originally plying between Bt Panjang and WTC. Extended to Woodlands and renumbered as 963 and no longer an express svc. -
bulls eye. but i dont really agree with the comment on svc 520. i took it on the PM peak on a few occasions and it was always 80% full. most ppl boarded along new bridge rd/KKH and alighted at yishun ring rd. maybe there were other reasons for its withdrawal?
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Shortening the route of 502 was the biggest boo boo. Put it back where it used to belong.
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not relli "express" imo.....journey damn long....routing through many places/estates......
jus bcos they go by expressways so it's called "express service"? -
They should time the journey and show the results to passengers. -
I agree. Express, my foot. They just want to charge more money. Sv. 502 now doesn't ply any expressways. Maybe SBST would convert them to normal services?Originally posted by FireIce:not relli "express" imo.....journey damn long....routing through many places/estates......
jus bcos they go by expressways so it's called "express service"? -
yes 518 is indeed a long winded route. perhaps shd number it as turnk service.
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Excuse of withdrawal of 520: 851 has almost the same route except that it does not ply on expressways... 851 is usually about 85% packed in peak hours ever since...Originally posted by gynobcard:bulls eye. but i dont really agree with the comment on svc 520. i took it on the PM peak on a few occasions and it was always 80% full. most ppl boarded along new bridge rd/KKH and alighted at yishun ring rd. maybe there were other reasons for its withdrawal? -
All corrections and additions in Blue.Originally posted by freakybuses:Many Express svcs have been withdrawn or amended in the past few years... Correct me if I am wrong and give comments abt express svcs
501: Originally plying between Hougang Ctrl and Suntec City. Extended to Sengkang to serve the residents of SK. Withdrawn in 2003 during NEL Rationalisation
502: Originally plying between Hougang Ctrl and Boon Lay. Extended to Sengkang to serve the residents in SK. Amended to ply between Boon Lay and Marina Ctr in 2003 during NEL Rationalisation.
503: Plying between Tampines and Marina Ctr... Extended to Pasir Ris and renumbered as 505 in 1999.
505: Extension of 503 and renumbered. Amended to ply to WTC / Bt Merah. This svc was amended in 2001 to ply between Pasir Ris and Moulmein Rd and renumbered as 518.
506: Originally and now plying between Jurong East and Bedok... In 2001, this svc was extended to Changi Airport but cut short to Bedok again in 2002 due to Changi Line.
507: Plying between Boon Lay and Shenton Way... still serving as original route.
508: Plying between Sengkang and Outram/Robinson Rd... Withdrawn when 501 and 502 serve Sengkang.
511: Introduced after 501 extended to Sengkang. Alternative service to Shenton Way
512: Introduced after 502 extended to Sengkang. Alternative service to Orchard Rd
518: Renumbered after amendment of 505. Plying between Pasir Ris and Moulmein Rd/Marina Centre
520: One of the early introduced Express services. Originally plying between Yishun and Chinatown. Withdrawn in 2003 due to poor demand.
521: Originally plying between Bt Panjang and WTC. Extended to Woodlands and renumbered as 963 and no longer an express svc. -
Service 521 charged trunk fares during off-peak hours, for a limited period.Originally posted by freakybuses:Many Express svcs have been withdrawn or amended in the past few years... Correct me if I am wrong and give comments abt express svcs
501: Originally plying between Hougang Ctrl and Suntec City. Extended to Sengkang to serve the residents of SK. Withdrawn in 2003 during NEL Rationalisation
502: Originally plying between Hougang Ctrl and Boon Lay. Extended to Sengkang to serve the residents in SK. Amended to ply between Boon Lay and Marina Ctr in 2003 during NEL Rationalisation.
503: Plying between Tampines and Marina Ctr... Extended to Pasir Ris and renumbered as 505 in 1999.
505: Extension of 503 and renumbered. Amended to ply to WTC / Bt Merah. This svc was amended in 2001 to ply between Pasir Ris and Moulmein Rd and renumbered as 518.
506: Originally and now plying between Jurong East and Bedok... In 2001, this svc was extended to Changi Airport but cut short to Bedok again in 2002.
507: Plying between Boon Lay and Marina Ctr... still serving as original route.
508: Plying between Sengkang and Outram/Robinson Rd... Withdrawn when 501 and 502 serve Sengkang.
511: Introduced after 501 extended to Sengkang. Alternative service to Marina Ctr
512: Introduced after 502 extended to Sengkang. Alternative service to Outram Rd/Robinson Rd
518: Renumbered after amendment of 505. Plying between Pasir Ris and Moulmein Rd
520: One of the early introduced Express services. Originally plying between Yishun and Chinatown. Withdrawn in 2003 due to poor demand.
521: Originally plying between Bt Panjang and WTC. Extended to Woodlands and renumbered as 963 and no longer an express svc.
Other corrections:
Service 505 was amended and re-numbered service 518 in September 2000. Service 505 was operational for only one year, from September 1999. -
Sv. 502 is not an express service now but still charges express fares. I'd rather take Sv. 7 from C'menti or Sv. 97 from Jurong East.
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Why not merge 97 with 502 to become new 97? Extend 97 to Boon Lay will solve the problem.Originally posted by SBS9818A:Sv. 502 is not an express service now but still charges express fares. I'd rather take Sv. 7 from C'menti or Sv. 97 from Jurong East. -
BOON LAY?! Boon lay is already crowded as it is.. Making a service with excellent demand would make it even worse as more buses of the new 97 would have to park there.Originally posted by sbs&tibs:Why not merge 97 with 502 to become new 97? Extend 97 to Boon Lay will solve the problem.
502 is a moderate demand service and doesnt require many buses to park at BNL. -
Now that is what I had in mind.Originally posted by sbs&tibs:Why not merge 97 with 502 to become new 97? Extend 97 to Boon Lay will solve the problem. -
yupz....502 route was halved......shd revise and perhaps downgrade it to normal service...........
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Agree with youOriginally posted by FireIce:yupz....502 route was halved......shd revise and perhaps downgrade it to normal service........... -
The only express service that is half useful is Sv 507. At least it goes quite a lot on express. But MRT is still cheaper and you dont have to wait as long.
Boon Lay Interchange badly needs upgrading. Very cramp and small, its like the AMK Temp Int plus another apron for fixed berths. Maybe they should make Jurong West Interchange to ease the crowd?
BTW on Boon Lay Interchange, is that place only crowded because of the JIS services? Because BNL is quite ulu and the area around it is quite empty compared to other estates... -
Are u sure it is ulu?Originally posted by leeJZ:The only express service that is half useful is Sv 507. At least it goes quite a lot on express. But MRT is still cheaper and you dont have to wait as long.
Boon Lay Interchange badly needs upgrading. Very cramp and small, its like the AMK Temp Int plus another apron for fixed berths. Maybe they should make Jurong West Interchange to ease the crowd?
BTW on Boon Lay Interchange, is that place only crowded because of the JIS services? Because BNL is quite ulu and the area around it is quite empty compared to other estates... -
Some parts are ulu only... eg the part near Westwood SecOriginally posted by BlessingSatan:Are u sure it is ulu? -
Upgrade & expand BNL int. Don't need Jurong West IntOriginally posted by leeJZ:Boon Lay Interchange badly needs upgrading. Very cramp and small, its like the AMK Temp Int plus another apron for fixed berths. Maybe they should make Jurong West Interchange to ease the crowd?
BTW on Boon Lay Interchange, is that place only crowded because of the JIS services? Because BNL is quite ulu and the area around it is quite empty compared to other estates... -
Boon Lay Interchange is WAY BIGGER than Ang Mo Kio Temp Int.Originally posted by leeJZ:The only express service that is half useful is Sv 507. At least it goes quite a lot on express. But MRT is still cheaper and you dont have to wait as long.
Boon Lay Interchange badly needs upgrading. Very cramp and small, its like the AMK Temp Int plus another apron for fixed berths. Maybe they should make Jurong West Interchange to ease the crowd?
BTW on Boon Lay Interchange, is that place only crowded because of the JIS services? Because BNL is quite ulu and the area around it is quite empty compared to other estates... -
Certainly bigger. If u go to AMK Int, you will find the reason why there are no new services in AMK in these 2 years... as there are hardly any more berths available! 24 takes up 2 berths... one to Tanah Merah and the other to Changi Airport. However, BNL Int is about 3-4 times AMK Int and certainly, there are quite a lot of space to have new berths.Originally posted by off_service:Boon Lay Interchange is WAY BIGGER than Ang Mo Kio Temp Int. -
I only gave a rough estimate -
How about this instead - about the size of Bedok, maybe smaller, but BNL handles 29 services while Bedok handles about 25... -
At one point of time, Bedok Interchange housed more services than Boon Lay Interchange, thus being the largest Interchange in Singapore in terms of bus services.Originally posted by leeJZ:I only gave a rough estimate -
How about this instead - about the size of Bedok, maybe smaller, but BNL handles 29 services while Bedok handles about 25...
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And Svc 30 has the privilage of going to these 2 places.Originally posted by Superbus:At one point of time, Bedok Interchange housed more services than Boon Lay Interchange, thus being the largest Interchange in Singapore in terms of bus services.
Cheers and warm regards