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Some questions...

kitoshizc
3 Apr 04, 23:56

1. Which is the earliest first bus and latest last bus of all services?
2. Which is the longest bus route in Singapore?
3. Which is the shortest bus route in Singapore? 354??
4. After a service is withdrawn, do they recycle the service and bus stop plates??

Thanks guys..
ula_man
4 Apr 04, 00:13

Originally posted by kitoshizc:
2. Which is the longest bus route in Singapore?
3. Which is the shortest bus route in Singapore? 354??

Q2. 30 or 51?
Q3. 284
Yusry
4 Apr 04, 01:12

Originally posted by kitoshizc:
2. Which is the longest bus route in Singapore?
3. Which is the shortest bus route in Singapore? 354??

2. Based on continuous farestage, it is 858. It has 85 farestages.

Based on endpoints, it is 30 (both directions - 45 farestages) and 51 (44 towards HGN and 45 towards JUR).

3. 354 and 284 share the shortest bus routes with 3 bus stops.
^tamago^
4 Apr 04, 01:26

Q1.
Svc 10 operates daily from Tampines Int from 0500 hrs. Also, Svc 261 operates daily from Ang Mo Kio Int from 0510 hrs and Svc 157 operates on weekdays and saturdays from Boon Lay Int from 0510 hrs.

Svc 30 and 154 operates daily from Boon Lay Int up to 0020 hrs. Svc 858A (Woodlands to Yishun Ave 2 Northpoint) operates daily from Woodlands Regional Interchange up to 0030hrs. As for feeders, Svc 261 operates daily from Ang Mo Kio Int up to 0100 hrs.

There are a couple of services that start operations from 0515 and 0520, and leave the interchanges at 2400, 0005(173-CLE & 80-HBF) and 0010 (170).

Q3.
Svc 284 is the shortest route by distance, which is about 2.2km. It was featured somewhere on a TV show last time. Svc 354's route covers a total of 2.6km.
SBS9845X
4 Apr 04, 13:16

Originally posted by Yusry:
2. Based on continuous farestage, it is 858. It has 85 farestages.

Based on endpoints, it is 30 (both directions - 45 farestages) and 51 (44 towards HGN and 45 towards JUR).

3. 354 and 284 share the shortest bus routes with 3 bus stops.
Service 194. Boon Lay to Jurong bird park.

Boon Lay Interchange
Jurong Bird Park
Boon Lay Interchange

just 1 bus stop.
SBS9818A
4 Apr 04, 14:46

Sv. 194 only has one stop but is still much longer than Sv. 284
freakybuses
4 Apr 04, 21:10

Originally posted by kitoshizc:
1. Which is the earliest first bus and latest last bus of all services?
2. Which is the longest bus route in Singapore?
3. Which is the shortest bus route in Singapore? 354??
4. After a service is withdrawn, do they recycle the service and bus stop plates??

Thanks guys..

Q1:
Svc 10, 261 all start at 0500... 10 from Tampines, 261 from AMK.
Svc 157 from 0510 BNL Int

Svc 30 & 154 leave BNL Int at 0020. In AMK, svc 261 & 269 leave AMK Int at 0100 (take 269 usually when i cant sleep well... one round come back 15 mins only!!!)

Q2
Service 51 is longer than svc 30 even though they have the same amt of fare stages. svc 51 has about 100+ bus stops in every direction while 30 uses ECP. Don't forget that 51 has a lot more half fare stages than 30... that makes svc 51 longer. However, the only service that used to be longer than svc 51 was svc 989 with 52 fare stages in one direction. The whole loop has 101 fare stages and time taken is 3 hrs.

Q3
Shortest bus routes:
First: 284 Clementi Int - Clementi Ave 4 (LOOP)
Second: 354 Pasir Ris Int - Pasir Ris Dr 3 - Pasir Ris Cl (LOOP)

Shortest Trunk Svc bus routes:
11 Geylang Lor 1 - Nat'l Stadium
194 Boon Lay - Jurong Bird Pk

Q4
Have seen recycled back bus no. plates before... 237 painted red and the other side painted with 88.
Bus Stop Plates??? or do you mean direction plates?
Direction plates have been reused before...
kitoshizc
4 Apr 04, 23:22

the bus stop plates like express 501 withdrawn so they recycle the plate?
service_238
4 Apr 04, 23:40

Q1
First Bus Trunk Services (Before 0530)
SBST010: 0500 from TAM daily
SBST154: 0500 from EUN on Wkdays/Sat
--
SBST157: 0510 from TPY on Wkdays/Sat
--
SBST003: 0515 from TAM daily
SBST018: 0515 from TAM on Wkdays/Sat
SBST025: 0515 from BDK on Wkdays/Sat
SBST027: 0515 from HGN on Wkdays/Sat
SBST030: 0515 from BDK on Wkdays/Sat
SBST038: 0515 from TAM daily
SBST072: 0515 from TAM on Wkdays/Sat
SBST080: 0515 from SEK daily
SBST086: 0515 from SEK on Wkdays
SBST101: 0515 from SGN daily
SBST112: 0515 from HGN daily
SBST119: 0515 from SEK on Wkdays/Sat
SBST156: 0515 from SEK on Wkdays/Sat
SBST170: 0515 from KotaRaya daily
--
SBST113: 0520 from HGN daily
SBST170: 0520 from Queen St daily
SBST170: 0520 from Larkin on Wkdays
TIBS180: 0520 from BTP on Wkdays/Sat
TIBS187: 0520 from WDL on Wkdays/Sat
TIBS852: 0520 from YIS on Wkdays/Sat
TIBS980: 0520 from KAL on Wkdays/Sat
--
TIBS858: 0525 from WDL on Wkdays

First Bus Feeder Services (Before 0530)
SBST232: 0500 daily
SBST293: 0500 daily
--
SBST231W: 0505 daily
SBST261: 0510 daily
--
SBST222: 0515 daily
SBST225: 0515 daily except 225W on Sun/PH
SBST231G: 0515 daily
SBST235: 0515 daily
SBST238: 0515 daily
SBST291: 0515 daily
SBST371: 0515 daily
SBST372: 0515 on Wkdays/Sat
--
TIBS804: 0520 on Wkdays/Sat
TIBS811: 0520 on Wkdays/Sat (Ave 2/5)
TIBS903: 0520 on Wkdays/Sat
TIBS911: 0520 on Wkdays/Sat (Ave 2)

Last Bus Trunk Services (After 2400)
TIBS858: 0007 from CGA daily
SBST053: 0010 from CGA daily
SBST113: 0010 from HGN daily
SBST170: 0010 from Queen St daily
SBST170: 0010 from Larkin on Sun/PH
--
SBST027: 0015 from CGA daily
SBST080: 0015 from HBF daily
SBST103: 0015 from SGN on Wkdays
--
SBST017: 0020 from PSR daily
SBST030: 0020 from BNL daily
SBST078: 0020 from JUR daily
SBST154: 0020 from BNL daily
--
SBST060: 0025 form EUN daily
--
SBST003A: 0030 from TAM daily
SBST081: 0030 from SGN daily
SBST082A: 0030 from SGN daily
SBST112: 0030 from HGN daily
SBST170: 0030 from KRJ on Sat
SBST170: 0030 from Larkin on Wkdays/Sat
TIBS858: 0030 from WDL daily to YIS
--
SBST003: 0036 from PUN daily
SBST083: 0036 from PUN daily
SBST038: 0040 from TAM and BDK daily

Last Bus Feeder Services (After 0030)
SBST242: 0032 daily
SBST291: 0035 daily
SBST293: 0035 daily
--
SBST292: 0040 daily.
SBST358: 0040 on Sat/Sun/PH
SBST359: 0040 daily
SBST238: 0045 daily
SBST358: 0045 on Wkdays
--
TIBS300: 0050 daily
TIBS302: 0050 daily
TIBS307: 0050 daily
SBST333: 0050 daily
SBST335: 0050 daily
TIBS800: 0050 daily
TIBS804: 0050 daily
TIBS811: 0050 daily
TIBS812: 0050 daily
TIBS900: 0050 daily
TIBS901: 0050 daily
TIBS903: 0050 daily
TIBS911: 0050 daily
TIBS912: 0050 daily
TIBS913: 0050 daily
TIBS941: 0050 daily
TIBS945: 0050 daily
TIBS947: 0050 daily
--
SBST261: 0100 daily
SBST269: 0100 daily
SBST334: 0100 daily

Q2
14
30
51

Q3
Shortest Feeder Service: 284 and 354 in terms of bus stops called.
Shortest Trunk Service: 194 in terms of bus stops called
service_238
4 Apr 04, 23:40

Q1
First Bus Trunk Services (Before 0530)
SBST010: 0500 from TAM daily
SBST154: 0500 from EUN on Wkdays/Sat
--
SBST157: 0510 from TPY on Wkdays/Sat
--
SBST003: 0515 from TAM daily
SBST018: 0515 from TAM on Wkdays/Sat
SBST025: 0515 from BDK on Wkdays/Sat
SBST027: 0515 from HGN on Wkdays/Sat
SBST030: 0515 from BDK on Wkdays/Sat
SBST038: 0515 from TAM daily
SBST072: 0515 from TAM on Wkdays/Sat
SBST080: 0515 from SEK daily
SBST086: 0515 from SEK on Wkdays
SBST101: 0515 from SGN daily
SBST112: 0515 from HGN daily
SBST119: 0515 from SEK on Wkdays/Sat
SBST156: 0515 from SEK on Wkdays/Sat
SBST170: 0515 from KotaRaya daily
--
SBST113: 0520 from HGN daily
SBST170: 0520 from Queen St daily
SBST170: 0520 from Larkin on Wkdays
TIBS180: 0520 from BTP on Wkdays/Sat
TIBS187: 0520 from WDL on Wkdays/Sat
TIBS852: 0520 from YIS on Wkdays/Sat
TIBS980: 0520 from KAL on Wkdays/Sat
--
TIBS858: 0525 from WDL on Wkdays

First Bus Feeder Services (Before 0530)
SBST232: 0500 daily
SBST293: 0500 daily
--
SBST231W: 0505 daily
SBST261: 0510 daily
--
SBST222: 0515 daily
SBST225: 0515 daily except 225W on Sun/PH
SBST231G: 0515 daily
SBST235: 0515 daily
SBST238: 0515 daily
SBST291: 0515 daily
SBST371: 0515 daily
SBST372: 0515 on Wkdays/Sat
--
TIBS804: 0520 on Wkdays/Sat
TIBS811: 0520 on Wkdays/Sat (Ave 2/5)
TIBS903: 0520 on Wkdays/Sat
TIBS911: 0520 on Wkdays/Sat (Ave 2)

Last Bus Trunk Services (After 2400)
TIBS858: 0007 from CGA daily
SBST053: 0010 from CGA daily
SBST113: 0010 from HGN daily
SBST170: 0010 from Queen St daily
SBST170: 0010 from Larkin on Sun/PH
--
SBST027: 0015 from CGA daily
SBST080: 0015 from HBF daily
SBST103: 0015 from SGN on Wkdays
--
SBST017: 0020 from PSR daily
SBST030: 0020 from BNL daily
SBST078: 0020 from JUR daily
SBST154: 0020 from BNL daily
--
SBST060: 0025 form EUN daily
--
SBST003A: 0030 from TAM daily
SBST081: 0030 from SGN daily
SBST082A: 0030 from SGN daily
SBST112: 0030 from HGN daily
SBST170: 0030 from KRJ on Sat
SBST170: 0030 from Larkin on Wkdays/Sat
TIBS858: 0030 from WDL daily to YIS
--
SBST003: 0036 from PUN daily
SBST083: 0036 from PUN daily
SBST038: 0040 from TAM and BDK daily

Last Bus Feeder Services (After 0030)
SBST242: 0032 daily
SBST291: 0035 daily
SBST293: 0035 daily
--
SBST292: 0040 daily.
SBST358: 0040 on Sat/Sun/PH
SBST359: 0040 daily
SBST238: 0045 daily
SBST358: 0045 on Wkdays
--
TIBS300: 0050 daily
TIBS302: 0050 daily
TIBS307: 0050 daily
SBST333: 0050 daily
SBST335: 0050 daily
TIBS800: 0050 daily
TIBS804: 0050 daily
TIBS811: 0050 daily
TIBS812: 0050 daily
TIBS900: 0050 daily
TIBS901: 0050 daily
TIBS903: 0050 daily
TIBS911: 0050 daily
TIBS912: 0050 daily
TIBS913: 0050 daily
TIBS941: 0050 daily
TIBS945: 0050 daily
TIBS947: 0050 daily
--
SBST261: 0100 daily
SBST269: 0100 daily
SBST334: 0100 daily

Q2
14
30
51

Q3
Shortest Feeder Service: 284 and 354 in terms of bus stops called.
Shortest Trunk Service: 194 in terms of bus stops called
service_238
4 Apr 04, 23:40

Q1
First Bus Trunk Services (Before 0530)
SBST010: 0500 from TAM daily
SBST154: 0500 from EUN on Wkdays/Sat
--
SBST157: 0510 from TPY on Wkdays/Sat
--
SBST003: 0515 from TAM daily
SBST018: 0515 from TAM on Wkdays/Sat
SBST025: 0515 from BDK on Wkdays/Sat
SBST027: 0515 from HGN on Wkdays/Sat
SBST030: 0515 from BDK on Wkdays/Sat
SBST038: 0515 from TAM daily
SBST072: 0515 from TAM on Wkdays/Sat
SBST080: 0515 from SEK daily
SBST086: 0515 from SEK on Wkdays
SBST101: 0515 from SGN daily
SBST112: 0515 from HGN daily
SBST119: 0515 from SEK on Wkdays/Sat
SBST156: 0515 from SEK on Wkdays/Sat
SBST170: 0515 from KotaRaya daily
--
SBST113: 0520 from HGN daily
SBST170: 0520 from Queen St daily
SBST170: 0520 from Larkin on Wkdays
TIBS180: 0520 from BTP on Wkdays/Sat
TIBS187: 0520 from WDL on Wkdays/Sat
TIBS852: 0520 from YIS on Wkdays/Sat
TIBS980: 0520 from KAL on Wkdays/Sat
--
TIBS858: 0525 from WDL on Wkdays

First Bus Feeder Services (Before 0530)
SBST232: 0500 daily
SBST293: 0500 daily
--
SBST231W: 0505 daily
SBST261: 0510 daily
--
SBST222: 0515 daily
SBST225: 0515 daily except 225W on Sun/PH
SBST231G: 0515 daily
SBST235: 0515 daily
SBST238: 0515 daily
SBST291: 0515 daily
SBST371: 0515 daily
SBST372: 0515 on Wkdays/Sat
--
TIBS804: 0520 on Wkdays/Sat
TIBS811: 0520 on Wkdays/Sat (Ave 2/5)
TIBS903: 0520 on Wkdays/Sat
TIBS911: 0520 on Wkdays/Sat (Ave 2)

Last Bus Trunk Services (After 2400)
TIBS858: 0007 from CGA daily
SBST053: 0010 from CGA daily
SBST113: 0010 from HGN daily
SBST170: 0010 from Queen St daily
SBST170: 0010 from Larkin on Sun/PH
--
SBST027: 0015 from CGA daily
SBST080: 0015 from HBF daily
SBST103: 0015 from SGN on Wkdays
--
SBST017: 0020 from PSR daily
SBST030: 0020 from BNL daily
SBST078: 0020 from JUR daily
SBST154: 0020 from BNL daily
--
SBST060: 0025 form EUN daily
--
SBST003A: 0030 from TAM daily
SBST081: 0030 from SGN daily
SBST082A: 0030 from SGN daily
SBST112: 0030 from HGN daily
SBST170: 0030 from KRJ on Sat
SBST170: 0030 from Larkin on Wkdays/Sat
TIBS858: 0030 from WDL daily to YIS
--
SBST003: 0036 from PUN daily
SBST083: 0036 from PUN daily
SBST038: 0040 from TAM and BDK daily

Last Bus Feeder Services (After 0030)
SBST242: 0032 daily
SBST291: 0035 daily
SBST293: 0035 daily
--
SBST292: 0040 daily.
SBST358: 0040 on Sat/Sun/PH
SBST359: 0040 daily
SBST238: 0045 daily
SBST358: 0045 on Wkdays
--
TIBS300: 0050 daily
TIBS302: 0050 daily
TIBS307: 0050 daily
SBST333: 0050 daily
SBST335: 0050 daily
TIBS800: 0050 daily
TIBS804: 0050 daily
TIBS811: 0050 daily
TIBS812: 0050 daily
TIBS900: 0050 daily
TIBS901: 0050 daily
TIBS903: 0050 daily
TIBS911: 0050 daily
TIBS912: 0050 daily
TIBS913: 0050 daily
TIBS941: 0050 daily
TIBS945: 0050 daily
TIBS947: 0050 daily
--
SBST261: 0100 daily
SBST269: 0100 daily
SBST334: 0100 daily

Q2
14
30
51

Q3
Shortest Feeder Service: 284 and 354 in terms of bus stops called.
Shortest Trunk Service: 194 in terms of bus stops called
kitoshizc
5 Apr 04, 10:39

wah 0500 that means 0400 mus reach depot already I suppose?

Actually where can I know more about what;s happening in the bus depots such as bus assembly or maintenance?

Anyway thanks service_238. Now I know much better..
bendy2003
5 Apr 04, 12:06

About earliest first bus, I have a question here, a bit off topic though. I often saw this svc 153 arriving at hg central tem int during the years 1999-2000 at about 6 in the morning. It was in service with pax alighting the bus. When exactly was the first 153 from bukit merah? I thought it couldnt be so early to see it in hg. Or was there a shotworking svc then??

cheers
TIB1186Z
5 Apr 04, 13:44

Originally posted by bendy2003:
About earliest first bus, I have a question here, a bit off topic though. I often saw this svc 153 arriving at hg central tem int during the years 1999-2000 at about 6 in the morning. It was in service with pax alighting the bus. When exactly was the first 153 from bukit merah? I thought it couldnt be so early to see it in hg. Or was there a shotworking svc then??

cheers
You got it almost correct.

Some of the first buses actually enter service not at the interchange, but somewhere along the route. Otherwise, some poor pax near the end of the route would have to wait until like 0630 for the first bus when it actually starts running at 5+.
service_238
5 Apr 04, 14:12

Originally posted by kitoshizc:
wah 0500 that means 0400 mus reach depot already I suppose?

Actually where can I know more about what;s happening in the bus depots such as bus assembly or maintenance?

Anyway thanks service_238. Now I know much better..

Generally by 0430 they should reach the depot. 0400 is too early

I'm not sure where u can get those info.. Maybe some of us here know abt it
service_238
5 Apr 04, 14:18

Originally posted by bendy2003:
About earliest first bus, I have a question here, a bit off topic though. I often saw this svc 153 arriving at hg central tem int during the years 1999-2000 at about 6 in the morning. It was in service with pax alighting the bus. When exactly was the first 153 from bukit merah? I thought it couldnt be so early to see it in hg. Or was there a shotworking svc then??

cheers
Yes alot of SBST services start from mid-way at least. Even though SBST153 departs BTM @0600 hrs, there's a Svc 153 bus at Braddell Rd towards HGN at 0610 hrs. I suppose this 153 start from Dunearn Rd, Whitley Rd or even Jln Toa Payoh.

I peeked at one Svc 88 timesheet before. That particular bus starts from Bishan MRT bus stop towards PSR at 0530, while the first bus from TPY departs at 0600.

I've seen SBST133 starting its trip from Suntec City at 0600 hrs before.
SBST56 starts from Toa Payoh MRT towards Marina Centre @0530 hrs on weekdays.

In general, long haul routes will have their first bus starting from midway while some others start from the interchange.

For more info, check out the SBST e-guide on a particular bus stop to check its first and last bus timings.
leeJZ
5 Apr 04, 16:00

For longest bus service, how about Sv 61, turn left, turn right, go straight, turn right, turn left, plus no expressways at all unlike Sv 30...
SBS9818A
5 Apr 04, 20:25

Originally posted by bendy2003:
About earliest first bus, I have a question here, a bit off topic though. I often saw this svc 153 arriving at hg central tem int during the years 1999-2000 at about 6 in the morning. It was in service with pax alighting the bus. When exactly was the first 153 from bukit merah? I thought it couldnt be so early to see it in hg. Or was there a shotworking svc then??

cheers
It's not a shortworking service per se. The bus starts service from somewhere in the middle of the route to ensure pax further down don't have to wait long for the bus. I presume its somewhere inside the timesheets.
service_238
5 Apr 04, 22:32

Originally posted by SBS9818A:
It's not a shortworking service per se. The bus starts service from somewhere in the middle of the route to ensure pax further down don't have to wait long for the bus. I presume its somewhere inside the timesheets.
It IS on the timesheets...

Svc 88 one

OFF 0524 bram
0530 (Bus stop code of BSH MRT)
04 0530 (Bus stop code of BSH MRT)
kitoshizc
5 Apr 04, 23:36

something new to me.. have u guys wondered

1. for EDS (electronic Displays on front of bus) how do they program the bus nos and destinations?

2. for the driver's ezlink machine, besides updating of fare stages and issuing tickets, what other controls are there for drivers? I'm quite curious about this though...

thanks guys
off_service
6 Apr 04, 00:37

Originally posted by kitoshizc:
something new to me.. have u guys wondered

1. for EDS (electronic Displays on front of bus) how do they program the bus nos and destinations?

2. for the driver's ezlink machine, besides updating of fare stages and issuing tickets, what other controls are there for drivers? I'm quite curious about this though...

thanks guys

As for question 1, most EDS come with softwares that enables the bus companies to program the service numbers, routes and graphics.

For question 2, I believe there are functions to change to entry/exit, for drivers to sign in etc etc.
gynobcard
6 Apr 04, 11:31

i think based on the route length svc 518 should be the longest trunk (excl svc 85. Pasir Ris - Marina Centre - Pasir Ris 69 fare stages
freakybuses
6 Apr 04, 15:44

Originally posted by gynobcard:
i think based on the route length svc 518 should be the longest trunk (excl svc 85. Pasir Ris - Marina Centre - Pasir Ris 69 fare stages
no... 51 is longer... but then the former 502 is longer than 51... but former 989 longest!!!
tranquilice
6 Apr 04, 19:45

Originally posted by service_238:
Q1
[b]First Bus Trunk Services (Before 0530)
SBST111: 0515 from SGN daily
[/b]
A mistake of service 111 goes to Serangoon interchange.
tranquilice
6 Apr 04, 19:47

Originally posted by gynobcard:
i think based on the route length svc 518 should be the longest trunk (excl svc 85. Pasir Ris - Marina Centre - Pasir Ris 69 fare stages
Service 518 is not a trunk service.