Darts running around?
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Any specific reasons,First 33,Then 285,284,And latest is on 198
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All these services are partly/fully controlled by BBDEP.Originally posted by BlessingSatan:Any specific reasons,First 33,Then 285,284,And latest is on 198
Do you think that it will go to other Interchanges too?
There's 2 reasons why darts are on these services.
1. All 12m spare buses are under maintainance.
2. BBDEP is testing the feasibility of Darts on these services.
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Another very pausible reason is that the Dart will be going off soon.
Reliable, anoymous sources inside BBDEP indicate that SBST is having some trouble maintaining the Darts as they are difficult to service, as well as the small fleet size.
Also, the main reason for deploying these midi buses is due to the route and the pax load. After taking 12m on svc 42 and 92, i can confidently say that 12m can handle the tight turns very well and can very well replace the Darts. Moreover, the mk3 i took on both services are much better than the Darts as they climb the hills much easily and comfortably.
Regarding load factors, mk2s and mk3s have both generated more than enough $$ for SBST, putting them on would not cost SBST a lot more bucks.
Next, both TIBS and SBST have a habit of parading their buses before a few services pending their withdrawal, though the Darts caused some kind of comical scene due to the location of the ezlink reader.
Hence, there is sufficient evidence to belief the info is true. I sincerely hope that these buses would not be sent to scrap or overseas and perhaps some private operators would express interest in buying it. After all, there are private Darts in service in Singapore. -
[quote]Originally posted by TIB1186Z:
[b]Another very pausible reason is that the Dart will be going off soon.
Reliable, anoymous sources inside BBDEP indicate that SBST is having some trouble maintaining the Darts as they are difficult to service, as well as the small fleet size.
Another unrelevant excuses by them
BTW, Why they didn't say that Tridents are hard to maintain too?Probably it's 12m and Double deck that bring more profits than the poor 9.4m bus.Believe me,In future they will say that Scanias,Leylands,MBs and whatever that is not Volvos are hard to maintain! -
Oh no! As true as this might seems I wish it wasn't! I like the Darts. Maintenance problems, it seemed, is the main culprit. A good example is the Darts in JB. There used to be a good number of them around last time but now they are nowhere to be seen. Pity SBST with huge wads of cash in its coffers is also having difficulty with the Darts.Originally posted by TIB1186Z:Another very pausible reason is that the Dart will be going off soon.
Reliable, anoymous sources inside BBDEP indicate that SBST is having some trouble maintaining the Darts as they are difficult to service, as well as the small fleet size. -
If it's true that they will be withdrawn soon,I would,nt mind if they replaced it with Volvo B6L/B7L 9.5m versionsOriginally posted by The_Bus_Guide:Oh no! As true as this might seems I wish it wasn't! I like the Darts. Maintenance problems, it seemed, is the main culprit. A good example is the Darts in JB. There used to be a good number of them around last time but now they are nowhere to be seen. Pity SBST with huge wads of cash in its coffers is also having difficulty with the Darts.
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ask SS buy the sentosa B7Rs and plonk the darts in sentosa
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expect the darts to pop on buses like 16, 14, 96, 95, 196, 195 soon. watch out for the trial runs next wekk =x
Bt merah feeders also, 282 will get trials soon
lolz
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B6 line of chassis is no longer in production I think.Originally posted by BlessingSatan:If it's true that they will be withdrawn soon,I would,nt mind if they replaced it with Volvo B6L/B7L 9.5m versions -
Sentosa buses are not that good.....
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I remember reading on another thread about Lances being pulled out. I wonder why the bus operators have this thing about Dennis (and to a lesser extent, Scania) buses.
The Lances are all right as far as I am concerned. As for the Tridents, they are state of the art.
The 35-seater Darts may not be profitable, but subway operators in the Klang Valley are using them to serve the neighbourhoods around the stations. There can be some profits reaped from the sale of the Darts to our Malaysian counterparts.
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[quote]Originally posted by iveco:
[b]IThe 35-seater Darts may not be profitable, but subway operators in the Klang Valley are using them to serve the neighbourhoods around the stations. There can be some profits reaped from the sale of the Darts to our Malaysian counterparts.
Haha,Triton operates the service with all Darts with Duple Metsec body but with square headlights right? -
More like the reliance on Volvo. After the O405s are gone SBST will be full-Volvo. Even the LO3X were produced under Volvo Bus supervision.Originally posted by iveco:I remember reading on another thread about Lances being pulled out. I wonder why the bus operators have this thing about Dennis (and to a lesser extent, Scania) buses.
The Lances are all right as far as I am concerned. As for the Tridents, they are state of the art.
The 35-seater Darts may not be profitable, but subway operators in the Klang Valley are using them to serve the neighbourhoods around the stations. There can be some profits reaped from the sale of the Darts to our Malaysian counterparts.
Maybe the reliance on MBs and Volvos is to blame for this attitude. -
Triton uses the Lances. They are exactly the same as those deployed on the Tekong shuttle. The Darts are managed by SPNB (master operator of the Klang Valley's subway system).Originally posted by BlessingSatan:[
Haha,Triton operates the service with all Darts with Duple Metsec body but with square headlights right? -
Thought i did saw Triton's Darts in KLOriginally posted by iveco:Triton uses the Lances. They are exactly the same as those deployed on the Tekong shuttle. The Darts are managed by SPNB (master operator of the Klang Valley's subway system).
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The O405s I am speaking about are the box Hispanos managed by Tibs.Originally posted by SBS9818A:More like the reliance on Volvo. After the O405s are gone SBST will be full-Volvo. Even the LO3X were produced under Volvo Bus supervision. -
I hope to have a full Volvo fleet for SBST.
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Singapore would be a very boring place then!Originally posted by SBS9845X:I hope to have a full Volvo fleet for SBST. -
It has been 14 years since SBST bought in MBs...Originally posted by SBS9818A:Singapore would be a very boring place then! -
Nope, only 12.Originally posted by freakybuses:It has been 14 years since SBST bought in MBs... -
The earliest batch of MBs came in 1990. They are the WA aircon MBs.Originally posted by SBS9818A:Nope, only 12. -
Ohh, i rather see SBST full volvo fleet then scanias and LOs around.Originally posted by SBS9818A:Singapore would be a very boring place then! -
That's your uneducated opinion. Diverse fleet makes for more variety and choice.Originally posted by Airbus330Captain:Ohh, i rather see SBST full volvo fleet then scanias and LOs around. -
Than you must hope for a full MB fleet for (the bus operator soon to be formerly called) Tibs.Originally posted by SBS9845X:I hope to have a full Volvo fleet for SBST. -
i also saw Triton use Dennis Darts for its 50sen shuttle service running between KL Sentral, Bangsar LRT & Mid Valley Megamall. and Darts on other Triton services too. as for Lances on Triton i didn't see any in Malaysia.Originally posted by iveco:Triton uses the Lances. They are exactly the same as those deployed on the Tekong shuttle. The Darts are managed by SPNB (master operator of the Klang Valley's subway system). -
WahlaowehOriginally posted by SBS9818A:That's your uneducated opinion. Diverse fleet makes for more variety and choice.