Sembawang Bus Interchange
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It was mentioned last time that new feeder services will be introduced. Hence I deduced the following:Originally posted by iveco:Is the new SBW Interchange replacing Admiralty Rd West terminal? This would mean cutting back Route 980. After all, the two places can be linked by Route 856 and 981.
Sembawang End terminal may have to stay as there has to be some connection along the whole stretch of road.
The situation there is different from the one in Punggol. This town is unique as some parts of the estate are quite old (Blks 1-7, much like Buangkok South Farmway estate now incorporated into Compassvale neighbourhood). However, it never had a bus interchange but got the MRT first. Even so, there were no feeder buses inside the town. A stark contrast to Sengkang as the latter had 371 and a temp interchange from the start, even though both towns are of the same age.
2 feeders will be introduced, one to Admiralty Rd West and one to Sembawang Rd End.
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1 feeder to cover Sembawang Rd End, and 981 to become a full day service.
I'm not so sure about 859 and 962 though. -
If this happens,167 definately will get bendies huh?Originally posted by off_service:It was mentioned last time that new feeder services will be introduced. Hence I deduced the following:
2 feeders will be introduced, one to Admiralty Rd West and one to Sembawang Rd End.
OR
1 feeder to cover Sembawang Rd End, and 981 to become a full day service.
I'm not so sure about 859 and 962 though. -
Hmmmm I dun think so, for 2 reasons.Originally posted by carbikebus:If this happens,167 definately will get bendies huh?
So long as 167 continues to pick up passengers from that particluar berth in Bt Merah Int, it is not likely. The bus drivers always find it difficult to U turn, given that the road structure at the interchange gives it very little space to U turn due to the stoopid position of the berth.
And at the Sembawang Road end terminal, given the small roundabout there, i think it is not likely. -
Sv. 167 berth can be moved to where Sv. 124 used to be. It is also the same berth used for Sv. 851, and if the latter can get O405Gs, why not Sv. 167?Originally posted by loudmonkey:Hmmmm I dun think so, for 2 reasons.
So long as 167 continues to pick up passengers from that particluar berth in Bt Merah Int, it is not likely. The bus drivers always find it difficult to U turn, given that the road structure at the interchange gives it very little space to U turn due to the stoopid position of the berth.
And at the Sembawang Road end terminal, given the small roundabout there, i think it is not likely. -
Yup I agree wif u, I meant to say that bendies are not likely if 167 still picks up pasengers from its current berth. of course the berth can be shifted, no problems there.Originally posted by SBS9818A:Sv. 167 berth can be moved to where Sv. 124 used to be. It is also the same berth used for Sv. 851, and if the latter can get O405Gs, why not Sv. 167? -
The feeders can go around the new town when all the flats are up. 859 and 962 can be merged to form 962 (WDL-YIS via SBW Int).Originally posted by off_service:It was mentioned last time that new feeder services will be introduced. Hence I deduced the following:
2 feeders will be introduced, one to Admiralty Rd West and one to Sembawang Rd End.
OR
1 feeder to cover Sembawang Rd End, and 981 to become a full day service.
I'm not so sure about 859 and 962 though. -
maybe one feeder will operate from Sembawang Int to Admiralty St to replace 962? coz Northlink and the schools there need a bus linkOriginally posted by iveco:The feeders can go around the new town when all the flats are up. 859 and 962 can be merged to form 962 (WDL-YIS via SBW Int). -
Of course. With Sv. 962 cut short to the new interchange there has to be a feeder to Northlink.Originally posted by gynobcard:maybe one feeder will operate from Sembawang Int to Admiralty St to replace 962? coz Northlink and the schools there need a bus link -
Hard to say, there's chances that SMRT Buses to use the 962/962A system, as in 962 and 962A buses come alternatively, with 962A plying Admiralty Steet.Originally posted by SBS9818A:Of course. With Sv. 962 cut short to the new interchange there has to be a feeder to Northlink.
But the chance of having a feeder for the sector is much higher IMO. -
It would be another service that "duplicates" from Woodlands to Yishun, although by different route. I think they would eitherOriginally posted by iveco:The feeders can go around the new town when all the flats are up. 859 and 962 can be merged to form 962 (WDL-YIS via SBW Int).
leave the services as they are extend both services beyond the respective interchanges (i.e. Yishun for 859 and Woodlands for 962) merge 859 with other services.
I feel that chances of 962 staying intact is much higher than service 859. Just gut feelings. -
why not extend 859 & 962 to become AMK - SBW svc and 962 to become CCK - SBW svc?Originally posted by off_service:It would be another service that "duplicates" from Woodlands to Yishun, although by different route. I think they would either leave the services as they are extend both services beyond the respective interchanges (i.e. Yishun for 859 and Woodlands for 962) merge 859 with other services.
I feel that chances of 962 staying intact is much higher than service 859. Just gut feelings. -
Feeder would be easier and create more usage for the new interchange.Originally posted by off_service:Hard to say, there's chances that SMRT Buses to use the 962/962A system, as in 962 and 962A buses come alternatively, with 962A plying Admiralty Steet.
But the chance of having a feeder for the sector is much higher IMO. -
i believe the following changes will occur when the new interchange opens, assuming the entrance/exit to be at Sembawang Vista:
Service 167 Cut short to terminate at Sembawang Int
Service 859 Withdrawn.
Service 962 Unchanged. Possibly amended to ply straight via Sembawang Way then Canberra Rd & Admiralty Dr (plying outside SBW MRT) before going to North Link via Sembawang Dr when the new bridge opens.
Service 980 Cut short to terminate at Sembawang Int
Service 981 Cut short to terminate at Sembawang Int
New Feeder Service XX0 Loop at Admiralty Lane via Sembawang Int, Sembawang Vista, Sembawang Dr, Sembawang Cres, Admiralty Dr, Sembawang Dr, Admiralty Link, Admiralty Lane, Sembawang Dr, Admiralty Dr, Sembawang Cres, Sembawang Dr, Sembawang Vista and Sembawang Int.
New Feeder Service XX1 Loop at Sembawang Rd (End) via Sembawang Int, Sembawang Vista, Sembawang Dr, Admiralty Dr, Wellington Dr, Wellington Link, Wellington Dr, Canberra Rd, Sembawang Way, Sembawang Rd (U-turn at Rd End), Sembawang Way, Canberra Rd, Wellington Dr, Wellington Link, Wellington Dr, Admiralty Dr, Sembawang Dr, Sembawang VIsta and Sembawang Int.
XX denotes the undetermined prefix to be used by Sembawang feeders.
Note that I've made a bit of changes since first posting. -
Hey, 93x is supposed to be for CCK feeders. I believe that the code for Sembawang is 86x/87x. The feeder service code might be 84xOriginally posted by ^tamago^:i believe the following changes will occur when the new interchange opens, assuming the entrance/exit to be at Sembawang Vista:
Service 167 Cut short to terminate at Sembawang Int
Service 859 Withdrawn.
Service 962 Unchanged.
Service 980 Cut short to terminate at Sembawang Int
Service 981 Cut short to terminate at Sembawang Int
New Feeder Service 930 Loop at Admiralty Lane via Sembawang Int, Sembawang Vista, Sembawang Dr, Sembawang Cres, Wellington Dr, Sembawang Dr, Admiralty Link, Admiralty Lane, Sembawang Dr, Wellington Dr, Sembawang Cres, Sembawang Dr, Sembawang Vista and Sembawang Int.
New Feeder Service 931 Loop at Sembawang Rd (End) via Sembawang Int, Sembawang Vista, Sembawang Dr, Wellington Dr, Wellington Link, Wellington Dr, Canberra Rd, Sembawang Way, Sembawang Rd (U-turn at Rd End), Sembawang Way, Canberra Rd, Wellington Dr, Wellington Link, Wellington Dr, Sembawang Dr, Sembawang VIsta and Sembawang Int. -
tru, considering CCK uses 985. but sembawang uses 980 & 981 so i dunno wat's on their minds too.Originally posted by cck_190:Hey, 93x is supposed to be for CCK feeders. I believe that the code for Sembawang is 86x/87x. The feeder service code might be 84x -
Then why doesn't Punggol have any feeders introduced? All new interchanges must have feeders.Originally posted by SBS9818A:Feeder would be easier and create more usage for the new interchange. -
Punggol is still relatively undeveloped. besides, all the trunk services coming out of Pg Int have almost the same routes which is where the resident base is now (think 3, 83, 84). furthermore, once the LRT (east loop) starts operations, the trunk svcs may be amended as they duplicate the LRT line, and it will also mark the demise of svc 84.Originally posted by iveco:Then why doesn't Punggol have any feeders introduced? All new interchanges must have feeders.
if any feeders are to be introduced (in the long term when Pg 21 is fully developed), it will be to Pg Rd End and Coney Island as these 2 areas do not have LRT coverage. -
Then Sv 167 & 980 will duplicate each other all the way to Novena Stn?Originally posted by ^tamago^:i believe the following changes will occur when the new interchange opens, assuming the entrance/exit to be at Sembawang Vista:
Service 167 Cut short to terminate at Sembawang Int
Service 859 Withdrawn.
Service 962 Unchanged. Possibly amended to ply straight via Sembawang Way then Canberra Rd & Admiralty Dr (plying outside SBW MRT) before going to North Link via Sembawang Dr when the new bridge opens.
Service 980 Cut short to terminate at Sembawang Int
Service 981 Cut short to terminate at Sembawang Int
New Feeder Service XX0 Loop at Admiralty Lane via Sembawang Int, Sembawang Vista, Sembawang Dr, Sembawang Cres, Admiralty Dr, Sembawang Dr, Admiralty Link, Admiralty Lane, Sembawang Dr, Admiralty Dr, Sembawang Cres, Sembawang Dr, Sembawang Vista and Sembawang Int.
New Feeder Service XX1 Loop at Sembawang Rd (End) via Sembawang Int, Sembawang Vista, Sembawang Dr, Admiralty Dr, Wellington Dr, Wellington Link, Wellington Dr, Canberra Rd, Sembawang Way, Sembawang Rd (U-turn at Rd End), Sembawang Way, Canberra Rd, Wellington Dr, Wellington Link, Wellington Dr, Admiralty Dr, Sembawang Dr, Sembawang VIsta and Sembawang Int.
XX denotes the undetermined prefix to be used by Sembawang feeders.
Note that I've made a bit of changes since first posting. -
actually, it does tat now too, from Sembawang all the way to Novena. no suggestions for this remedy though, and hard to predict too. 167 to end at Yishun Int via Sembawang Rd, Yishun Ave 5, Ave 2 & Yishun Int?Originally posted by leeJZ:Then Sv 167 & 980 will duplicate each other all the way to Novena Stn? -
Because the trend now for SBST is to introduce trunks, to make commuters cough out more $.Originally posted by iveco:Then why doesn't Punggol have any feeders introduced? All new interchanges must have feeders. -
Because the trend now for SBST is to introduce trunks, to make commuters cough out more $.Originally posted by iveco:Then why doesn't Punggol have any feeders introduced? All new interchanges must have feeders. -
962A will be gone next year when riverside sec..sch. moves back to woodlands.Originally posted by off_service:Hard to say, there's chances that SMRT Buses to use the 962/962A system, as in 962 and 962A buses come alternatively, with 962A plying Admiralty Steet.
But the chance of having a feeder for the sector is much higher IMO. -
Why was Riverside Sec moved? PRIME works?Originally posted by bus911:962A will be gone next year when riverside sec..sch. moves back to woodlands. -
Yes. First,it was feeders. Then came townlinks, then came intertpn, now, trunk services replacing all thoseOriginally posted by SBS9818A:Because the trend now for SBST is to introduce trunks, to make commuters cough out more $. -
Either upgrading or rebuilding.Originally posted by SBS9818A:Why was Riverside Sec moved? PRIME works?