Dream Interchanges.
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2 more berths. One used by ex service 85 and the other beside service 65.Originally posted by leeJZ:I think HarbourFront has only 1 more space for a service (used by the old 85) and no more room for expansion (?). -
I hope it won't come true, until the opening of CCL phase 5.Originally posted by leeJZ:btw 132 cannot use DDs if it plies Lower Kent Ridge Rd. Height limit of 4m there. Maybe amend 132 to ply Sv 10 route from HBF - Kent Ridge and shorten 10 to Shenton Way? Shenton Way - HBF market already got alternatives 97 100 131. -
LastestOriginally posted by leeJZ:Introduce shortworking trips towards the airport then, demand from the airport would be very low.
From Changi Airport: Will leave 1 hr after a flight arrives with passengers, I.e from NZ which arrives at 0100, the bus will leave at 0215. Departing times will ve adjusted daily with dif arrival times
From Tomilison Rd: Will leave at the following times (Buses arriving empty from Airport)
0050
0115
0140
0205
0230
0300
0320
0340
0400
0420
0440
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Not possible as well, CCL will NOT go to NUS but rather NUHOriginally posted by tranquilice:I hope it won't come true, until the opening of CCL phase 5. -
The buses have rackes like some MRT train, didn't I said that?Originally posted by leeJZ:Pax would rather take taxi. Who would like to haul a whole lot of heavy luggage up a bus? The Airport services are mainly for the convinience of airport staff / airport visitors (ie pax receivers), with the exception of possibly Sv 36. -
93 - Amended to Redhill Int via Alexandra Rd, Tiong Bahru Rd, Redhill Int.Originally posted by loudmonkey:I really hope Bt Merah Int will relocate to the empty patch of land at Redhill MRT. Renamed Redhill Int.
So diversion plans -
16, 608, 851 - delete Henderson Rd, continue straight along Tiong Bahru Rd, Redhill Int.
153, 198 - extended from Bt Merah central to Henderson Rd, Tiong Bahru Rd, Redhill Int.
131 - Extended from Lower Delta Rd to Jln Bt Merah, Kim Tian Rd, Tiong Bahru Rd, Redhill Int.
132 - extended from Henderson Rd to Depot Rd, Alexandra Rd, Tk Blangah Rd and then Harbourfront Ter.
139 - extended from Bt Merah Central to Henderson Rd, Tk Blangah Way, Lower Delta Rd, Kg Bahru Rd, Tk Blangah Rd, Harbourfront Ter.
167 - extended from Jln Bt Merah to Alexandra Rd, Tiong Bahru Rd, Redhill Int.
176, 605 - extended from Henderson Rd to Tiong Bahru Rd, Redhill Int.
272 - Redhill Int, Tiong Bahru Rd, Lower Delta Rd, TK blangah Way, Tk Blangah Cres, Tk Blangah Way, Tk Blangah Rise, Lower Delta Rd, TIong Bahru Rd, Redhill Int.
273 - Redhill Int, Tiong Bahru Rd, Henderson Rd, and continue
normal route
275 - Redhill Int, Redhill Rd, Redhill Close, Lengkok Bahru, (Hoy Fatt Rd) Jun Bt Merah and continue normal route.
123 - Withdrawn
274 - Withdrawn (serviced by newly amended 132)
Other amendments -
195 - to operate into Bt Purmei (becomes 2 directional along Bt Purmei)
36 - Extended to Redhill Int via Orchard Blvd, Grange Rd, Napier Rd, Holland Rd, Queensway, Jln Bt Merah, Hoy Fatt Rd, Lengkok Baru, Redhill Rd, Cl, Tiong Bahru Rd, Redhill Int.
Entrance to Int must be from Jln Tiong signallised junction, or else DDs cannot enter. There is a height restriction near the Redhill MRT tunnel entrance. -
Think again before you start making sweeping statements.Originally posted by leeJZ:Pax would rather take taxi. Who would like to haul a whole lot of heavy luggage up a bus? The Airport services are mainly for the convinience of airport staff / airport visitors (ie pax receivers), with the exception of possibly Sv 36.
If you had noticed carefully which i seriously think you don't, many pax including me take Svc 858 from Yishun/Chong Pang area to the airport and back. Its quite easy with a 27 inch luggage to haul up and down the bus since its mostly express anyway. It only costs $1.43 for an adult to go from Yishun MRT to Changi Airport in approx 30mins, while a taxi gets you there more than 10times the amount in approx 20mins. In fact, i had pulled it off 3 times during different time frames without much problem. -
That is Yishun, with a semi-express service. If you go from someplace elsewhere without an express service to the airport (ie central / western district), taxi or MRT would be more convinient. Plus it would quite troublesome hauling luggage up buses without a standing area (27 36).Originally posted by TIB1186Z:Think again before you start making sweeping statements.
If you had noticed carefully which i seriously think you don't, many pax including me take Svc 858 from Yishun/Chong Pang area to the airport and back. Its quite easy with a 27 inch luggage to haul up and down the bus since its mostly express anyway. It only costs $1.43 for an adult to go from Yishun MRT to Changi Airport in approx 30mins, while a taxi gets you there more than 10times the amount in approx 20mins. In fact, i had pulled it off 3 times during different time frames without much problem. -
Not true, when there was 16E, there was quite a lot passengers with baggage from CBD.Originally posted by leeJZ:That is Yishun, with a semi-express service. If you go from someplace elsewhere without an express service to the airport (ie central / western district), taxi or MRT would be more convinient. Plus it would quite troublesome hauling luggage up buses without a standing area (27 36). -
Lower Kent Ridge Road does not have the 4m height limit anymore. The bridge linking the former Kent Ridge Hall and the current Alumni building has been removed more than a year ago.Originally posted by leeJZ:btw 132 cannot use DDs if it plies Lower Kent Ridge Rd. Height limit of 4m there. Maybe amend 132 to ply Sv 10 route from HBF - Kent Ridge and shorten 10 to Shenton Way? Shenton Way - HBF market already got alternatives 97 100 131.
Anyway, there is already 188 from HBF to Kent Ridge and I can safely assure you that the loads are not very high. -
There is also 10 and 143 as well.Originally posted by delonchew:Lower Kent Ridge Road does not have the 4m height limit anymore. The bridge linking the former Kent Ridge Hall and the current Alumni building has been removed more than a year ago.
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Stadium Boulevard Interchange to replace the current Geylang Fringe terminal when CL Phase 1 starts operating.
11: Withdrawn & integrated with 62.
62: Merged with 11 & extended to Stadium Boulevard Int via Mountbatten Rd, Nicoll Hwy, Stadium Rd & Stadium Blvd Int.
853: Extended to Stadium Boulevard Int on weekdays and Saturdays via Mountbatten Rd, Nicoll Hwy, Stadium Rd & Stadium Boulevard Int.
961, 980 & 985: Extended to Stadium Boulevard Int via Mountbatten Rd, Nicoll Hwy, Stadium Rd & Stadium Boulevard Int.
158: May operate from Stadium Boulevard Int when CL goes to Bishan. -
Wait, if you withdrawn 158 away bet Serangoon and Mountbatten, be carefulOriginally posted by iveco:Stadium Boulevard Interchange to replace the current Geylang Fringe terminal when CL Phase 1 starts operating.
158: May operate from Stadium Boulevard Int when CL goes to Bishan.
158 is the only bus to certain places
1) Serangoon Ave 1
2) Paya Lebar - Macpherson Est
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I think the best thing to do about an Airport Express is to have one ply between Seletar Airport and Changi aprx 45 min after and an hour before an AirAsia plane arrives at the airport. This would bring more buisness to both the bus operator and CAAS.
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Em, AirAsia may be thinking of using the budget terminal instead.Originally posted by vasanth:I think the best thing to do about an Airport Express is to have one ply between Seletar Airport and Changi aprx 45 min after and an hour before an AirAsia plane arrives at the airport. This would bring more buisness to both the bus operator and CAAS.
As Seletar Airport is poorly linked (103W only runs at certain times and frequency is 30 mins) -
Marina South Ter
Can make 400 integrate with 186. Can tear down shenton way ter and divert the shenton way buses to marina south. 130 will stay as alternative however. -
Not practical as 186 is already low in demand, like this it will go "burst"Originally posted by gohby:Marina South Ter
Can make 400 integrate with 186. Can tear down shenton way ter and divert the shenton way buses to marina south. 130 will stay as alternative however. -
I have to be harsh here with twerps like you.Originally posted by sbst275:Not practical as 186 is already low in demand, like this it will go "burst"
IF Shenton Way is EVER GOING to be replaced by that "dream" Marina South Interchange, all the buses serving Shenton Way Terminal should be extended Marina South Terminal [Unless there is a better bus route]. IF THATS the case, 186 will have to be extended to Marina South Int anyway. If you think 186, making an extra loop round Marina South area will make it burst, then i suggest you bursting your head by banging to the wall. Then, you smart aleck, what do you suggest about 400 then? Make it start from Marina South Int and make a round around Marina South area then loop at shenton way ter ah? Why leave such a service while you can easily integrate with some other service? -
But that is never going to be a practical way... If it is going to be not profitable, the cost is going higher as you may need 2 more buses to maintain the frequency.Originally posted by gohby:I have to be harsh here with twerps like you.
IF Shenton Way is EVER GOING to be replaced by that "dream" Marina South Interchange, all the buses serving Shenton Way Terminal should be extended Marina South Terminal [Unless there is a better bus route]. IF THATS the case, 186 will have to be extended to Marina South Int anyway. If you think 186, making an extra loop round Marina South area will make it burst, then i suggest you bursting your head by banging to the wall. Then, you smart aleck, what do you suggest about 400 then? Make it start from Marina South Int and make a round around Marina South area then loop at shenton way ter ah? Why leave such a service while you can easily integrate with some other service? -
Correct, but you think 400 doesn't need buses one ah? Besides Marina South is getting more and more popular and the reason why people dont usually go there is because of the lack of public transport, and the MRT is so far away. and you don't say it is NEVER going to be practical. You can see the future ah? go and see a psycologist lar. In fact, it is practical enough to carry out my plan even now. Reason why 400 is so "cold" cause very little people would like to transfer bus at Shenton Way area. If 186 is the one serving Marina South, more people will be willing to go Marina South. So, I strongly urge you to filter your words before you type out, cause given your carelessness, you are bound to talk crappy statements.
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Svc 186 and Svc 400...
Svc 400 is not exactly a trunk Svc.. which is really to bring ppl from residential to city areas while Svc 186 is a true trunk svc. As such, both have different standards to meet. Based on current loading profile, if both services were to merge, imagine the extra ERP charges incurred. Marina South is outside CBD. Also, Svc 400 does not opearate before 9am and the headway is much longer than Svc 186. Merging, would mean more mileage than currently, unless there's tons of short working trips.
Unless... Marina South starts building residential units, or the PTC zones the new downtown as an additional major corridor (currently got 3), it is unlikely to see any significant changes to that area. -
That will really depends. The extra ERP charges if you merge the two services together is going to be quite insignificant. It is not going to cost a bomb or something. Remember. The new quay is located at Marina South and there are numerous plans at Marina South. So, loadings around Marina South will improve eventually.Originally posted by yoongf:Svc 186 and Svc 400...
Svc 400 is not exactly a trunk Svc.. which is really to bring ppl from residential to city areas while Svc 186 is a true trunk svc. As such, both have different standards to meet. Based on current loading profile, if both services were to merge, imagine the extra ERP charges incurred. Marina South is outside CBD. Also, Svc 400 does not opearate before 9am and the headway is much longer than Svc 186. Merging, would mean more mileage than currently, unless there's tons of short working trips.
Unless... Marina South starts building residential units, or the PTC zones the new downtown as an additional major corridor (currently got 3), it is unlikely to see any significant changes to that area.
Remember. The scenario here is Shenton Way is closed and Marina South Terminal is erected to preplace Shenton Way Terminal. Get this right. -
I somehow think that Marina South is a good place to built a Terminal.. thiS way, Shenton Way aND Marina Center could close down.. all the bus service from this 2 terminal could move over to Marina South.. this way, it could somehow save abit of money.. and.. Next time.. when the nEw downtown is being built over at Marina south, it ouldnt be too late to plan out all this routes as the MArina South Bus terminal is already there.. better if the terminal is a big one.. possible to hold between 17 to 23 bus services.. CBD area mahz.. haha...
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Well.. What i hope to see.. iS... Ermm.. Underground Bus Interchange.. Is It possible.. ?? i mean.. Not like the Woodlands type.. what im trying to say here is a completely UNderground Bus Interchange.. ?? i think its good when these kind of bus Interchange are being built in the CBD area.. iT saves up alot of spaces.. haha.. iF not.. can er follow hongKong.. ?? having a bus interchange INSIDE a building.. saving alot of spaces also...
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curious.. isn't toa payoh interchange built inside a building?Originally posted by sBs_boy:Well.. What i hope to see.. iS... Ermm.. Underground Bus Interchange.. Is It possible.. ?? i mean.. Not like the Woodlands type.. what im trying to say here is a completely UNderground Bus Interchange.. ?? i think its good when these kind of bus Interchange are being built in the CBD area.. iT saves up alot of spaces.. haha.. iF not.. can er follow hongKong.. ?? having a bus interchange INSIDE a building.. saving alot of spaces also...
dream interchanges for my ideas... well, i think since marina south is developing, moving shenton way ter down south is possible.. but i hope that'll be better done after the marina south road networks are better developed.
the marymount interchange thingy.. isn't it a bit too extravagant for an interchange? if you notice, marymount and bishan's distance is just like clarke quay and chinatown.. since 605 is removed and sin ming road terminal will be (left to rot?), we can perhaps better utilise the bishan interchange (the 3 berths only serve 410G/W, 53/56, 54/55.. ) and provide more extensions to marymount and sin ming. currently sin ming only served by 410 and 130, marymount road 54,53,55,74,... (diff parts of marymount)
i will think that
the bus terminals of the northwest can be better integrated as 1 terminal, like 980 at admiralty road west, 167 at sem road end, 175 at lim chu kang (have those 5 blocks there been vacated?). maybe can have a kranji interchange which will house 980, 167 extended/amended; 175 passes thru, then also a few berths for the johor-bound buses (no sg-bound! 
), also a few new services which will link ppl from kranji to woodlands/cck.