Currently, there are only 169, 167, 980, 981, 962 and 859. Thank god Sembawang MRT is around. There should be a new bus interchange by now.Originally posted by alantanchunshyan:sembawang new town is in need of more bus routes and also a bus interchange.it been nearly 5 years since i stay at sembawang but still not much progress in bus routes .
yes, it should be rebuild. hopefully nearer to the NEL station.Originally posted by sBs_boy:Nope.. Serangoon already have 81 serving Tampines.. rite now, the Interchang's Capacity is just nice.. there have been news that Serangoon Interchange will be rebuilt.. because of the Circle line coming up..
858, 965 and 969 should also be diverted to Sembawang if it's necessaryOriginally posted by PJ_Quek:Currently, there are only 169, 167, 980, 982, 962 and 859. Thank god Sembawang MRT is around. There should be a new bus interchange by now.
Probably new bus routes to link CCK, Woodlands, Jurong, Yishun, AMK and the Northeast area.
Originally posted by PJ_Quek:I think the real ghost town is Eunos Int. Hardly anyone around. I've boarded 154 there and besides me, there was another lady. Nobody else started their journey from there. 93 lagi worse as nobody in the queue.
[b]yes, it should be rebuild. hopefully nearer to the NEL station.
By the way, because of the NEL, buses like 103, 82 and 81 does not go to the city anymore. People staying in Hougang, especially those along Ave 8 and Ave 9 were affected. For instance, Ave 9 people used to have 103, where they can travel to city (or Chinatown to be exact) directly. Now they have to take 103 or 70 to Serangoon to take the stupid NEL. Waste $$ waste time.
Alternative, walked 1/2 km to Ave 8 to take the crowded 147.
Plying all these routes (101, 82, 81, 103) to the useless serangoon terminal will not help SBS to cut down their costs. But instead, less people will take their buses. (Go to serangoon interchange for what?). Although serangoon int have a lot of buses terminating there after the opening of NEL (81, 82, 103, 101, 105, 100, 315, 317, 15, Serangoon int looks like a ghost town, with a few "cats" around only. What a cleve idea to cut cost for the SBS.[/b]
Originally posted by PJ_Quek:Actually.. i some how do not agree with what youve said.. for Service 101.. you must actually feel lucky that it is terminating over At Serangoon Int.. Service 101 is there because of the closure of Hougang South Int.. it was service 328.. after they closed down Hougang South.. then there was 101.. for 82.. the reason that it stops over there is because it runs almost the same as NEL.. so... it was then amanded to served Serangoon Int instead of Shenton Way Terminal.. SBST did wanted to cut the line completely.. but.. it was to stay because that 82 pass by quite a number of schools in Hougang/SengKang/Punggol Area.. it is like a school bus service.. There is something that i would like to add.. If you yourself doesnt like to take the NEL.. that doesnt mean that other ppl wouldnt take the NEL... if you dont believe.. i think.. you try to make a trip down to Serangoon Int and MRT station in the MOrning and Evening and see for yourself whether there are ppl taking NEL.. Yes.. i do agree that by takin NEL, it cost more money.. but.. in the mean time, you actually spend less time on the road.. and.. People living in Hougang Ave9, they need not take 103,70 to Serangoon Int.. for a faster way, some of the ppl there would take a bus to Hougang Int before making a transit for NEL.. When NEL was open, ppl living in Hougang Ave 8 was NOT affected in any way AT ALL.. there was only a withdrawal of Express Service 502 and 501.. Ppl staying over at hougang Ave8 had only 147 that serve the city area EVEN BEFORE THE OPENING OF NEL.. (if youre talking about NON Express Service..).. And.. Serangoon is NOT a TERMINAL.. Serangoon is an INTERCHANGE.. it have Feeder Service that stops there.. So.. it is not Called Terminal but an Interchange instead.. i believe you rarely go down to Serangoon INTERCHANGE bahx.. ?? in fact.. it is NOT A GHOST TOWN AT ALL.. there are alot of other Interchange that is even WORST than Serangoon.. Pls do not blame Serangoon for anything just because Hougang Ave 8/9 doesnt have any service that serve the city except 147.. and Pls do Not use the Word Useless.. if it is Useless.. it wouldnt even be there in the 1st place.. So... Pls mind what you say and think before you type it down...
[b]yes, it should be rebuild. hopefully nearer to the NEL station.
By the way, because of the NEL, buses like 103, 82 and 81 does not go to the city anymore. People staying in Hougang, especially those along Ave 8 and Ave 9 were affected. For instance, Ave 9 people used to have 103, where they can travel to city (or Chinatown to be exact) directly. Now they have to take 103 or 70 to Serangoon to take the stupid NEL. Waste $$ waste time.
Alternative, walked 1/2 km to Ave 8 to take the crowded 147.
Plying all these routes (101, 82, 81, 103) to the useless serangoon terminal will not help SBS to cut down their costs. But instead, less people will take their buses. (Go to serangoon interchange for what?). Although serangoon int have a lot of buses terminating there after the opening of NEL (81, 82, 103, 101, 105, 100, 315, 317, 15, Serangoon int looks like a ghost town, with a few "cats" around only. What a cleve idea to cut cost for the SBS.[/b]
Originally posted by PJ_Quek:have feedback to smrt about the diversion of 858 and 969 but smrt not keen.as for smrt 965,smrt is still considering as they are reviewing sembawang bus routes now.
[b]858, 965 and 969 should also be diverted to Sembawang if it's necessary[/b]
Most service 60 pax start their journey from there, from my observation.Originally posted by iveco:I think the real ghost town is Eunos Int. Hardly anyone around. I've boarded 154 there and besides me, there was another lady. Nobody else started their journey from there. 93 lagi worse as nobody in the queue.
Before the merger with SMRT happened, TIBS has already firmly stated their grounds that 858 and 969 will not be diverted to serve Sembawang, as it would affect the approx 60 min travel time.Originally posted by alantanchunshyan:have feedback to smrt about the diversion of 858 and 969 but smrt not keen.as for smrt 965,smrt is still considering as they are reviewing sembawang bus routes now.![]()
This has been the way since service 385 days. I believe the most apparent reason is the fare difference from boarding from interchange and first stop. Service 60 passengers are not affected as those travelling to Bedok Reservoir will still pay the same fare.Originally posted by tranquilice:Most service 60 pax start their journey from there, from my observation.
Relax lah. You may be right, it just take some time to get use to the new changes.Originally posted by sBs_boy:Actually.. i some how do not agree with what youve said.. for Service 101.. you must actually feel lucky that it is terminating over At Serangoon Int.. Service 101 is there because of the closure of Hougang South Int.. it was service 328.. after they closed down Hougang South.. then there was 101.. for 82.. the reason that it stops over there is because it runs almost the same as NEL.. so... it was then amanded to served Serangoon Int instead of Shenton Way Terminal.. SBST did wanted to cut the line completely.. but.. it was to stay because that 82 pass by quite a number of schools in Hougang/SengKang/Punggol Area.. it is like a school bus service.. There is something that i would like to add.. If you yourself doesnt like to take the NEL.. that doesnt mean that other ppl wouldnt take the NEL... if you dont believe.. i think.. you try to make a trip down to Serangoon Int and MRT station in the MOrning and Evening and see for yourself whether there are ppl taking NEL.. Yes.. i do agree that by takin NEL, it cost more money.. but.. in the mean time, you actually spend less time on the road.. and.. People living in Hougang Ave9, they need not take 103,70 to Serangoon Int.. for a faster way, some of the ppl there would take a bus to Hougang Int before making a transit for NEL.. When NEL was open, ppl living in Hougang Ave 8 was NOT affected in any way AT ALL.. there was only a withdrawal of Express Service 502 and 501.. Ppl staying over at hougang Ave8 had only 147 that serve the city area EVEN BEFORE THE OPENING OF NEL.. (if youre talking about NON Express Service..).. And.. Serangoon is NOT a TERMINAL.. Serangoon is an INTERCHANGE.. it have Feeder Service that stops there.. So.. it is not Called Terminal but an Interchange instead.. i believe you rarely go down to Serangoon INTERCHANGE bahx.. ?? in fact.. it is NOT A GHOST TOWN AT ALL.. there are alot of other Interchange that is even WORST than Serangoon.. Pls do not blame Serangoon for anything just because Hougang Ave 8/9 doesnt have any service that serve the city except 147.. and Pls do Not use the Word Useless.. if it is Useless.. it wouldnt even be there in the 1st place.. So... Pls mind what you say and think before you type it down...
I didn't mention about Ave 8 area. They still have 147 from start till now, I am referring to Ave 9, a distance away from Ave 8.Originally posted by sBs_boy:Actually.. i some how do not agree with what youve said.. for Service 101.. you must actually feel lucky that it is terminating over At Serangoon Int.. Service 101 is there because of the closure of Hougang South Int.. it was service 328.. after they closed down Hougang South.. then there was 101.. for 82.. the reason that it stops over there is because it runs almost the same as NEL.. so... it was then amanded to served Serangoon Int instead of Shenton Way Terminal.. SBST did wanted to cut the line completely.. but.. it was to stay because that 82 pass by quite a number of schools in Hougang/SengKang/Punggol Area.. it is like a school bus service.. There is something that i would like to add.. If you yourself doesnt like to take the NEL.. that doesnt mean that other ppl wouldnt take the NEL... if you dont believe.. i think.. you try to make a trip down to Serangoon Int and MRT station in the MOrning and Evening and see for yourself whether there are ppl taking NEL.. Yes.. i do agree that by takin NEL, it cost more money.. but.. in the mean time, you actually spend less time on the road.. and.. People living in Hougang Ave9, they need not take 103,70 to Serangoon Int.. for a faster way, some of the ppl there would take a bus to Hougang Int before making a transit for NEL.. When NEL was open, ppl living in Hougang Ave 8 was NOT affected in any way AT ALL.. there was only a withdrawal of Express Service 502 and 501.. Ppl staying over at hougang Ave8 had only 147 that serve the city area EVEN BEFORE THE OPENING OF NEL.. (if youre talking about NON Express Service..).. And.. Serangoon is NOT a TERMINAL.. Serangoon is an INTERCHANGE.. it have Feeder Service that stops there.. So.. it is not Called Terminal but an Interchange instead.. i believe you rarely go down to Serangoon INTERCHANGE bahx.. ?? in fact.. it is NOT A GHOST TOWN AT ALL.. there are alot of other Interchange that is even WORST than Serangoon.. Pls do not blame Serangoon for anything just because Hougang Ave 8/9 doesnt have any service that serve the city except 147.. and Pls do Not use the Word Useless.. if it is Useless.. it wouldnt even be there in the 1st place.. So... Pls mind what you say and think before you type it down...
Off_svc, do you mean Sims Ave (EUN Stn)?Originally posted by off_service:This has been the way since service 385 days. I believe the most apparent reason is the fare difference from boarding from interchange and first stop. Service 60 passengers are not affected as those travelling to Bedok Reservoir will still pay the same fare.
Citing example:
SBST 63
>> Eunos Int to Ubi Ave 2 = 83 cents
>> Upp Changi Rd to Ubi Ave 2 = 63 cents
But i wish they would retain VO2x or VO3x sigh sigh. It is good to have Dennis Trident or VSO... it will be very nice....Originally posted by tranquilice:Load has dropped after its route was shortened to Marina Centre, under NEL rationalisation phase 2.
I dun think they would put a NAC bus on an Orchard Rd service...when was the last time NAC buses appeared on Orchard Rd??Originally posted by SBS9800A:But i wish they would retain VO2x or VO3x sigh sigh. It is good to have Dennis Trident or VSO... it will be very nice....![]()
A few years back bahx..?? when CCK was still in the hands of SBS.. i remembered 190 have VO2x... 65 also have a few.. if my memory is still in good condition...Originally posted by leeJZ:I dun think they would put a NAC bus on an Orchard Rd service...when was the last time NAC buses appeared on Orchard Rd??
u r correct together w sv14, sv7 (SBS7211 - 7214)Originally posted by sBs_boy:A few years back bahx..?? when CCK was still in the hands of SBS.. i remembered 190 have VO2x... 65 also have a few.. if my memory is still in good condition...
When conversion went into phrase in 1998/1999... But there was once in Late 1999 that an LA was mistakenly deployed on 106Originally posted by leeJZ:I dun think they would put a NAC bus on an Orchard Rd service...when was the last time NAC buses appeared on Orchard Rd??
Although they ply the same route, please note that they serve different sectors, sv25 to AMK, sv854 to Yis. Note tt sv854 brings commuters to YCK, HGN industrial & residential estate from YIs. It is an invaluable svc and also very quick. PLEASE do not make any recommendation to amend any route unless there is a real valid reason to do so. In addition, the load factor for both services are there.Originally posted by tanjun:I think that service 25 and 854 ply the same route from Hougang Avenue 2 to Bedok. Maybe they can change the route of one service either 25 or 854
I do agree that NEL helps to shorten the traveling time. One of the reason why people dislike about the NEL rationalisation is that there more transfer trips, it a hassle and with all the waiting time for the transfer, one does not gain much form taking NEL, even though we have to pay more. Talking about going to Chinatown. I disagree with you that a faster alternative is to take to Hougang Central and tansfer NEL. Why does one need to travel 2 Station up if one could just transfer to NEL at serangoon.Originally posted by sBs_boy:Actually.. i some how do not agree with what youve said.. for Service 101.. you must actually feel lucky that it is terminating over At Serangoon Int.. Service 101 is there because of the closure of Hougang South Int.. it was service 328.. after they closed down Hougang South.. then there was 101.. for 82.. the reason that it stops over there is because it runs almost the same as NEL.. so... it was then amanded to served Serangoon Int instead of Shenton Way Terminal.. SBST did wanted to cut the line completely.. but.. it was to stay because that 82 pass by quite a number of schools in Hougang/SengKang/Punggol Area.. it is like a school bus service.. There is something that i would like to add.. If you yourself doesnt like to take the NEL.. that doesnt mean that other ppl wouldnt take the NEL... if you dont believe.. i think.. you try to make a trip down to Serangoon Int and MRT station in the MOrning and Evening and see for yourself whether there are ppl taking NEL.. Yes.. i do agree that by takin NEL, it cost more money.. but.. in the mean time, you actually spend less time on the road.. and.. People living in Hougang Ave9, they need not take 103,70 to Serangoon Int.. for a faster way, some of the ppl there would take a bus to Hougang Int before making a transit for NEL.. When NEL was open, ppl living in Hougang Ave 8 was NOT affected in any way AT ALL.. there was only a withdrawal of Express Service 502 and 501.. Ppl staying over at hougang Ave8 had only 147 that serve the city area EVEN BEFORE THE OPENING OF NEL.. (if youre talking about NON Express Service..).. And.. Serangoon is NOT a TERMINAL.. Serangoon is an INTERCHANGE.. it have Feeder Service that stops there.. So.. it is not Called Terminal but an Interchange instead.. i believe you rarely go down to Serangoon INTERCHANGE bahx.. ?? in fact.. it is NOT A GHOST TOWN AT ALL.. there are alot of other Interchange that is even WORST than Serangoon.. Pls do not blame Serangoon for anything just because Hougang Ave 8/9 doesnt have any service that serve the city except 147.. and Pls do Not use the Word Useless.. if it is Useless.. it wouldnt even be there in the 1st place.. So... Pls mind what you say and think before you type it down...
It actually depends on where the commuter stays & his/her preferences. If he feels that the trip to SGN station is smoother[lesser traffic lights or bus loading], he will utilise SGN. On the other hand the commuter might feel that by taking NEL to HGN stn, he/she will be able to get a seat and have a nap or the trip to HGN stn from where they are staying is shorter. So it all boils down to the individual's preferences.Originally posted by pkcheah100:I do agree that NEL helps to shorten the traveling time. One of the reason why people dislike about the NEL rationalisation is that there more transfer trips, it a hassle and with all the waiting time for the transfer, one does not gain much form taking NEL, even though we have to pay more. Talking about going to Chinatown. I disagree with you that a faster alternative is to take to Hougang Central and tansfer NEL. Why does one need to travel 2 Station up if one could just transfer to NEL at serangoon.
sv151 is a partial air-con sv due to complaints by students from NUS who REFUSE to pay more for rides many years back. SBST did take into account of what you have written but they have LISTENED to the majority of sv151 commuters, ie why sv151 is mainly Non Aircon bus. besides sv154 is more or less parallel with sv151. If you would like an Air-Con ride, you can take sv154, DD somemore!Originally posted by wcafe:Why is it that bus 151 is largely a non air-con bus service now? Its torture having to sit in the poorly maintained, noisy, hot and bumpy bus (suspensions seem like they're not doing their job anymore) after a day of school. Can't they convert it back to an air-con service again? I'm sure all schools along bukit timah road and also students from nus will be happy to pay more to have a more comfortable ride home.
Totally disgusted that SBS didn't put into consideration that the bus would be travelling along the paya lebar area (very very polluted and under going construction) and also passing through parts of PIE (another heavy traffic area) The SBS feedbackservice on the net is so user unfriendly and cumbersome to fill in. Can't anything be done about it?