Do you guys think we need a 3rd bus company ?
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Well, I feel that SBST's service has deteriorated ever since the NEL started. I wonder its lack of buses but I feel that their deployment of buses of certain services have a lot to be desire. I wonder who is that dumb planner who planned some of the bus svcs routes. Instead of giving us alternatives, like the NEL . Keeping one of the svc in hougang, 85 or 111 will definately make things easier for the folks living in Hougang. They could have just reduce the frequency to like half an hour one bus ? Those that are in a hurry can always take the mrt. But SBST thinks otherwise. I can write an essay to express my anger and unhappiness with SBST' services but I will not start.
I feel we need a 3rd bus company in Singapore, hopefully they will replace SBST in the east area. Any thoughts ? -
east? cannot.. i live in the east. and i really hate to see them go. perhaps the people in sbst should do something to save its goodwill with its commuters..
the change of service 111's route definitely has served lots of inconvenience for me.. -
No harm intended, but the noise should have sounded when the MRT rationlisation came in 1990's.Originally posted by Airbus330Captain:Well, I feel that SBST's service has deteriorated ever since the NEL started. I wonder its lack of buses but I feel that their deployment of buses of certain services have a lot to be desire. I wonder who is that dumb planner who planned some of the bus svcs routes. Instead of giving us alternatives, like the NEL . Keeping one of the svc in hougang, 85 or 111 will definately make things easier for the folks living in Hougang. They could have just reduce the frequency to like half an hour one bus ? Those that are in a hurry can always take the mrt. But SBST thinks otherwise. I can write an essay to express my anger and unhappiness with SBST' services but I will not start.
I feel we need a 3rd bus company in Singapore, hopefully they will replace SBST in the east area. Any thoughts ?
30 mins for 1 bus that goes city? It is not going to be possible as passengers will be detered away as there are train station nearby -
no point lah .... govt intervention stops bus companies from operating
according to true market needs
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Not really... People still prefer busesOriginally posted by InnoHippo:no point lah .... govt intervention stops bus companies from operating
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Hmmm...the rationalisation did bring inconveniences no doubt...but i guess no one would want to compete with oneself i guess...would be silly for sbst buses to compete with the SBST NEL...maybe TIBS 106 should have been spared though...
As for 3rd company...i dun tink so...market in Singapore is not that big...some more...the intention is to develop the rail network...fees to start up a bus company also quite high...
At the end of the day a 3rd company might not be beneficial...could bring about worse days? -
It's true that sometimes SBS's service have deteriorated. Example: sometimes u waited for longer than expected like 30 mins. What u can do is complain to LTA by writing an e-mail to them. It helps to shorten the waiting time in future. I tried b4.
Other than the above situation, can try to complain but may of no use. Anyway, it is in my opinion that the govt have intervened the transport industry. They are trying to contain to 2 major bus operators to prevent them from becoming unprofitable. Sad thing about Singapore. Not that open afterall. -
The MRT system should be operated by one company instead of 2..... and the MRT system should be of the same system.... That is all Driverless system.... This way the MRT system can be better integrated..... Hmmm just image that we can take NEL and go to City hall, Orachard, Sommerset without transfering at Doby gourt.... hehehe....
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Don't be so bad,I have couples of family man friends who drive the MRT TrainsOriginally posted by pkcheah100:The MRT system should be operated by one company instead of 2..... and the MRT system should be of the same system.... That is all Driverless system.... This way the MRT system can be better integrated..... Hmmm just image that we can take NEL and go to City hall, Orachard, Sommerset without transfering at Doby gourt.... hehehe....
Anyway the bus companies are controlled by the Government not THEMSELVES.Do you have to wait more than 30 mis everyday,Nope right?Just think,Bus breakdown,Traffic congestions,Some morons parked their Vehicles at Bus stops/Bus lanes and roadworks!
I would prefer if SBST purchased more Bendies and SMRTB buys more 3x DDs.
Let SBST runs their own NEL,Punggol & Sengkang LRT Systems as SMRT are going to have a new CCL networks in their fleets -
It's still the same as the train officer will become a mobile CSOOriginally posted by carbikebus:Don't be so bad,I have couples of family man friends who drive the MRT Trains Anyway the bus companies are controlled by the Government not THEMSELVES.Do you have to wait more than 30 mis everyday,Nope right?Just think,Bus breakdown,Traffic congestions,Some morons parked their Vehicles at Bus stops/Bus lanes and roadworks! -
You understands what i really means or not?Perm drivers on the train not as astanby or what,It is about wages and allowances my friendOriginally posted by sbst275:It's still the same as the train officer will become a mobile CSO -
It is interesting if the East zone (BNDEP-ctrlled) were spun off. With SMRT & Comfort-Delgro becoming transport giants, it looks like Woodlands Transport is the next biggest to challenge them. As for NEL rationalisation, i think 106 was unfortunate. I think it would be better if it were extended to Punggol Int.
If SBS gave up BNDEP the following would happen:
Scanias going West (CLE, JUR & such)
Routes ctrlled by 3rd operator:
3, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 12, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 21, 22, 23, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 35, 37, 38, 39, 40, 65, 66, 68, 69, 72, 81, 87, 88, 168, 196, 197, 222, 225, 227, 229, 291, 292, 293, 354, 358, 359, 401, 403.
If Woodlands Transport were to take the areas under BNDEP, bid successfully for the last-remaining taxi licence & somehow gain ctrl of the CCL, it would be truly multi-modal. (Bus, Taxi, MRT & FREIGHT TRUCKS) -
For goodness sake, WDL Tpt has only 400 busesOriginally posted by iveco:It is interesting if the East zone (BNDEP-ctrlled) were spun off. With SMRT & Comfort-Delgro becoming transport giants, it looks like Woodlands Transport is the next biggest to challenge them. As for NEL rationalisation, i think 106 was unfortunate. I think it would be better if it were extended to Punggol Int.
If SBS gave up BNDEP the following would happen:
Scanias going West (CLE, JUR & such)
Routes ctrlled by 3rd operator:
3, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 12, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 21, 22, 23, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 35, 37, 38, 39, 40, 65, 66, 68, 69, 72, 81, 87, 88, 168, 196, 197, 222, 225, 227, 229, 291, 292, 293, 354, 358, 359, 401, 403.
If Woodlands Transport were to take the areas under BNDEP, bid successfully for the last-remaining taxi licence & somehow gain ctrl of the CCL, it would be truly multi-modal. (Bus, Taxi, MRT & FREIGHT TRUCKS) -
Woodlands Transport,Don't make me laugh,Even Semi-Government linked bus company ComfortBus are not Entitled to operate Public bus services,The Government will tell you this~SG is too small for a 3rd bus company,Look what happen to SSB(CSS)Originally posted by iveco:It is interesting if the East zone (BNDEP-ctrlled) were spun off. With SMRT & Comfort-Delgro becoming transport giants, it looks like Woodlands Transport is the next biggest to challenge them. As for NEL rationalisation, i think 106 was unfortunate. I think it would be better if it were extended to Punggol Int.
If SBS gave up BNDEP the following would happen:
Scanias going West (CLE, JUR & such)
Routes ctrlled by 3rd operator:
3, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 12, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 21, 22, 23, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 35, 37, 38, 39, 40, 65, 66, 68, 69, 72, 81, 87, 88, 168, 196, 197, 222, 225, 227, 229, 291, 292, 293, 354, 358, 359, 401, 403.
If Woodlands Transport were to take the areas under BNDEP, bid successfully for the last-remaining taxi licence & somehow gain ctrl of the CCL, it would be truly multi-modal. (Bus, Taxi, MRT & FREIGHT TRUCKS)
BTW,Introducing or allowed a 3rd bus operator won't solve the problems,Instead there will be a hell lot of problems considering some of our fellow citizens attitude that is Not satisfied and complains unnecessarily,No Offences
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It may just go back to pre-SBS days...Originally posted by iveco:It is interesting if the East zone (BNDEP-ctrlled) were spun off. With SMRT & Comfort-Delgro becoming transport giants, it looks like Woodlands Transport is the next biggest to challenge them. As for NEL rationalisation, i think 106 was unfortunate. I think it would be better if it were extended to Punggol Int.
If SBS gave up BNDEP the following would happen:
Scanias going West (CLE, JUR & such)
Routes ctrlled by 3rd operator:
3, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 12, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 21, 22, 23, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 35, 37, 38, 39, 40, 65, 66, 68, 69, 72, 81, 87, 88, 168, 196, 197, 222, 225, 227, 229, 291, 292, 293, 354, 358, 359, 401, 403.
If Woodlands Transport were to take the areas under BNDEP, bid successfully for the last-remaining taxi licence & somehow gain ctrl of the CCL, it would be truly multi-modal. (Bus, Taxi, MRT & FREIGHT TRUCKS) -
Public Transport in Sg shd be run like a co-operative.. similar to NTUC Fairprice with the Rebate concept. Whatever excess in profits is returned as rebates, after provision for a norminal rate of return for it's shareholders.
No need for third operator. -
Two is enough.
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FairPrice is not a real good example. Their items are very expensive like by 10% compared to Dairy Farm groupOriginally posted by yoongf:Public Transport in Sg shd be run like a co-operative.. similar to NTUC Fairprice with the Rebate concept. Whatever excess in profits is returned as rebates, after provision for a norminal rate of return for it's shareholders.
No need for third operator.