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the Engineering ads (the one that says fuel for engineering sth like that with the convertible) above the door (i understand MOE's intention.. but its very SAD for ppl in engineering courses like ME!!!)
i was standing under the ad with a group of act-punk sec sch boys behind me.. my shirt behind got a big SCHOOL OF ENGINEERING duno they nv see or purposely wana suan me
they were discussing abt where to go after o level, and they started saying 'go anywhere oso can, just dont go engineering u look at the advertisement, all engineering one.
) if engineering so popular why all the ads engineering, not even one on other course... engineering all the ah bengs fail english cannot go anywhere dan no choice enter one...
SMRT or MOE pls be fair i understand ur kind intention.. but.... haiz.. put more ads about other courses (science or nursing etc) -
Any chance Singapore having those German magnetic trains here?
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No. Singapore's end-to-end distance is so short, there is no point spending billions to build a high-speed rail network. They even hesitated with upping the speed limit to 90km/h, so why have trains faster than 85km/h (max. speed of our MRT)?Originally posted by Texcoco:Any chance Singapore having those German magnetic trains here?
Unless Malaysia agrees to have one pan-Malaysia railway that runs to Singapore, then u'll see it. But tat one I think also impossible. Maybe an extension to KLIA's ERL seems more practical. -
for the NSL, mornings trains always have empty train from bishan depot, then goes to AMK and U turns at Yishun South Bound.
Evenings, its alternate North Bound trains terminating at Yishun.
But recently, i seen many South Bound trains ( presumbly from J east or yishun) TERMINTATING at Ang Mo Kio at about 10 am. IS this normal?
also, for evenings, there were North Bound trains ending at AMK, not yishun.. -
dun worry, it's quite common actually.Originally posted by 105090:for the NSL, mornings trains always have empty train from bishan depot, then goes to AMK and U turns at Yishun South Bound.
Evenings, its alternate North Bound trains terminating at Yishun.
But recently, i seen many South Bound trains ( presumbly from J east or yishun) TERMINTATING at Ang Mo Kio at about 10 am. IS this normal?
also, for evenings, there were North Bound trains ending at AMK, not yishun.. -
I notice that Punggol bound NEL trains now travel at a much slower speed from Serangoon to Kovan, but the speed of city bound trains remain unchanged from Kovan to Serangoon. My guess is because of the construction of the Circle Line in Serangoon, but why only Punggol bound trains are affected and not both directions?
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IMO, i always think NEL trains travels much slower than the NSL or EWL.. , together with short station to station distances and long stopping times, one trip from PGL to HBF seems longer than Boon Lay to Bedok
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You are WRONG... Fact is.. NEL trains are faster... and... i dont think From BoonLay to Bedok Cause you only 30mins.. i dont think SMRT can do that...Originally posted by 105090:IMO, i always think NEL trains travels much slower than the NSL or EWL.. , together with short station to station distances and long stopping times, one trip from PGL to HBF seems longer than Boon Lay to Bedok -
yeah, i agree with you.. but psychologically, NEL trains travel much slower.. i have friends who rather take a longer bus trip than take NEL from SKG to ORP.. also, if u take NEL in the mornings, with full loads, the trains and pax always has an eerie silence, not like the NSL and EWL, which is much nosier, and in a way, makes a commuter feel better and looks forward to the day instead of cursing the NEL for its ""slow"" speedOriginally posted by sBs_boy:You are WRONG... Fact is.. NEL trains are faster... and... i dont think From BoonLay to Bedok Cause you only 30mins.. i dont think SMRT can do that... -
I prefer to take a silent train than a noisy train.Originally posted by 105090:yeah, i agree with you.. but psychologically, NEL trains travel much slower.. i have friends who rather take a longer bus trip than take NEL from SKG to ORP.. also, if u take NEL in the mornings, with full loads, the trains and pax always has an eerie silence, not like the NSL and EWL, which is much nosier, and in a way, makes a commuter feel better and looks forward to the day instead of cursing the NEL for its ""slow"" speed
A CSO told me before that trains run at 90km/h between HabourFront and Outram Park. -
Dun worry, this is caused by a re-programming of the timetable.Originally posted by bendy2003:I notice that Punggol bound NEL trains now travel at a much slower speed from Serangoon to Kovan, but the speed of city bound trains remain unchanged from Kovan to Serangoon. My guess is because of the construction of the Circle Line in Serangoon, but why only Punggol bound trains are affected and not both directions?
One thing to note: Did the train stop at Serangoon (PGL Bound) and left the doors open for 30 seconds? If not, then probably some part of this 30 secs is put into the journey time from Serangoon to Kovan. (Don't ask why it stops so long - again, it's part of the timetable.) -
Hmm, maybe having "nite atmosphere" (underground) all the the ways & "bigger" train cars, contributes to the feeling of longer time taken. What do u'al think?Originally posted by 105090:yeah, i agree with you.. but psychologically, NEL trains travel much slower.. i have friends who rather take a longer bus trip than take NEL from SKG to ORP.. also, if u take NEL in the mornings, with full loads, the trains and pax always has an eerie silence, not like the NSL and EWL, which is much nosier, and in a way, makes a commuter feel better and looks forward to the day instead of cursing the NEL for its ""slow"" speed
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interestingly, no one highlighted the following fact.Originally posted by bendy2003:I notice that Punggol bound NEL trains now travel at a much slower speed from Serangoon to Kovan, but the speed of city bound trains remain unchanged from Kovan to Serangoon. My guess is because of the construction of the Circle Line in Serangoon, but why only Punggol bound trains are affected and not both directions?
a recent ST report had said that the areas around Serangoon MRT were sinking and cracks have appeared or enlarged on neighbouring buildings. Serangoon NEL Stn itself sank by 1cm. to safeguard against any possible derailment, the trains' speed have been reduced. so tat is the actual reason why the trains' speed were reduced.
regarding why only the punggol outbound tunnel was affected, i suppose it's due to the fact that there is more stress on the tracks from an accelerating train, compared to a cruising or retarding train. -
probably due to the fact that most station-to-station travel times on the NSL are 2 mins while the average of station-to-station travel times on the NEL is closer to 3 - 4 mins.Originally posted by 105090:yeah, i agree with you.. but psychologically, NEL trains travel much slower.. i have friends who rather take a longer bus trip than take NEL from SKG to ORP.. also, if u take NEL in the mornings, with full loads, the trains and pax always has an eerie silence, not like the NSL and EWL, which is much nosier, and in a way, makes a commuter feel better and looks forward to the day instead of cursing the NEL for its ""slow"" speed -
another thing i notice is that even though the speed is slower in the punggol bound tunnel, the train is travelling much faster through woodleigh station compared to last time!! this may compensate the time lost from the slower speed from serangoon to kovanOriginally posted by bendy2003:I notice that Punggol bound NEL trains now travel at a much slower speed from Serangoon to Kovan, but the speed of city bound trains remain unchanged from Kovan to Serangoon. My guess is because of the construction of the Circle Line in Serangoon, but why only Punggol bound trains are affected and not both directions?
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Same goes to Buangkok Stn...Originally posted by bendy2003:another thing i notice is that even though the speed is slower in the punggol bound tunnel, the train is travelling much faster through woodleigh station compared to last time!! this may compensate the time lost from the slower speed from serangoon to kovan -
got any diff in the spd of PGL bound trains at SGR? i dun seem to feel it...
anyway, the avr dist to each NEL station is actually not 3-4 mins. it's only abt 1-2 mins, but the braking part takes up at least 15 to 20 secs more than NSL trains. (it's annoying).
why it seems that 3-4 mins per station is becos of the out-of-service stations like woodleigh and buangkok. besides, the dist from outram to harbourfront is twice the avg dist bwt NEL stations. in fact, the avg dist bwt NEL stations is minute compared to the woodland extension. eg bwt kranji and yew tee can fit in at least 2 more NEL stations. -
There is a reservation for a future station in Sungai Kadut industrial park. I wonder if it will ever be built.Originally posted by Gazette05:why it seems that 3-4 mins per station is becos of the out-of-service stations like woodleigh and buangkok. besides, the dist from outram to harbourfront is twice the avg dist bwt NEL stations. in fact, the avg dist bwt NEL stations is minute compared to the woodland extension. eg bwt kranji and yew tee can fit in at least 2 more NEL stations. -
Anyone got the number schemes for the NEL trains? Cannot seem to figure out a pattern for them.
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note that for station-to-station timings, it is defined as the time taken from one reference point (maybe say doors open or depature etc) at one station to the next station.Originally posted by Gazette05:got any diff in the spd of PGL bound trains at SGR? i dun seem to feel it...
anyway, the avr dist to each NEL station is actually not 3-4 mins. it's only abt 1-2 mins, but the braking part takes up at least 15 to 20 secs more than NSL trains. (it's annoying).
why it seems that 3-4 mins per station is becos of the out-of-service stations like woodleigh and buangkok. besides, the dist from outram to harbourfront is twice the avg dist bwt NEL stations. in fact, the avg dist bwt NEL stations is minute compared to the woodland extension. eg bwt kranji and yew tee can fit in at least 2 more NEL stations.
regarding the travel time between stations on the NEL, it varies greatly actually. in fact, while SMRT does its best to keep station-to-station timings in minutes (a gd example is the long dist between novena & toa payoh and somerset & dhoby ghaut, yet the trains travel faster jus to meet 2 mins and 1 min respectively), SBST's timings are controlled by computers are made to conform to almost-precise seconds of travel time.
however, it is 1) those long out-of-service sector runs and 2) the more gradual deceleration taking up more time between short station-to-station distance runs that make a ride on NEL seems so painstakingly long.
as for distance, no point comparing as 1) distance is not really a factor in the placement of stations and 2) longer distance may not necessarily translate into proportionately longer travel time but rather the scheduling controls how fast a train shall travel. -
Why ppl sometimes avoid taking NEL:
>Higher fares
>For journey southbound, if u dont get seat by HG stn, you have to stand all the way
>Long frequencies(min is 5 mins(vs NSL 1~2 mins). night time is 10 mins(vs NSL 8 mins)
>Annoying station announcements
>Irritating braking patterns at stations.(trains brake, then move over a distance and break a 2nd time to stop completely, waste time) -
tis is system design. in fact, if trains do not stop tis way, like some trains did during the first few days of service, they tend to miss the door by a bit. doing a second brake allows it to calibrate the distance between the previous door and next door so it can brake more accurately.Originally posted by 105090:Why ppl sometimes avoid taking NEL:
>Irritating braking patterns at stations.(trains brake, then move over a distance and break a 2nd time to stop completely, waste time)
i hate tis but it has to be so. x(
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What is the Life span of an SMRT Train? Is it 20 years?
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well there are people who like the braking procedure..people like me..hahaz..Originally posted by ^tamago^:tis is system design. in fact, if trains do not stop tis way, like some trains did during the first few days of service, they tend to miss the door by a bit. doing a second brake allows it to calibrate the distance between the previous door and next door so it can brake more accurately.
i hate tis but it has to be so. x(
and i suppose CCL is likely to follow that too.