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Semiens train are horrible !!!
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I dont like the sound of Siemen trains when it start/slow down. The old Kawasaki trains sound better to me. The new Kawasaki black train sound is ok.Originally posted by CAIX:Semiens train are horrible !!! -
i think 1995. can't locate the source eh.Originally posted by CAIX:About the semiens trains.... In the semiens train, they don't have anything or plaque to identify the train model and when it was constructed. In the Kawasaki train, they have this plaque at both ends of the train on top of the driver's door saying :
(Logo) Kawasaki
1988 Nippon Sharyo
but semiens train don't have. At first, I don't know what is the train model. I though that the semiens train is the " brother " of the Kawasaki. After checking on the web, then I know is the semiens train. BTW, when was semiens introduced ? -
The old Kawasakis are OK but age are creeping in on them. Many trainsets are squeaking and creaking. Plus, I feel they need a new paintjob. There are already some trains that were painted with a bluish-grey coat and I hope SMRT would finish re-painting the rest of them soon.Originally posted by disappear:I dont like the sound of Siemen trains when it start/slow down. The old Kawasaki trains sound better to me. The new Kawasaki black train sound is ok.
The Siemens are nice, smooth and quiet. I don't hear much noise from them as compared to the Kawasaki units. Also, it has a unique MBO405 kinda sound when it is stopping. The one funny thing is its chime. It sounds like a 7-Eleven store! The Kawasaki chime is more pleasant to hear.
Speaking of Siemens, Keretapi Tanah Melayu Berhad (KTMB, aka Malayan Railway) will be getting new Siemens locomotives which are scheduled for delivery in August. These locomotives are built in China by the Dalian Locomotive and Rollingstock Works.
Did you know that KTMB also have Kawasaki locomotives? They were built in collaboration with Toshiba and were delivered in 1985. Named the 24 Class, they are the most powerful KTMB locomotive until the arrival of the German Blue Tiger in 2003. Powerful they may be, the 24 Class have been plagued with reliability issues. -
Will the new Siemens trains for the KTM has a higher travelling speed?
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Ya, the siemens train the chime sound come out is like softer than the old kawasaki train's chime.....but they are playing the same sound(sound file?)...Originally posted by The_Bus_Guide:The Siemens are nice, smooth and quiet. I don't hear much noise from them as compared to the Kawasaki units. Also, it has a unique MBO405 kinda sound when it is stopping. The one funny thing is its chime. It sounds like a 7-Eleven store! The Kawasaki chime is more pleasant to hear.
i would like NEL train to use the SMRT train chime sound, but has gotten used to the G major broken chord already...sounds quite pleasant..
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i think the top speed is determined by the type of electrical system (third rail, overhead? DC or AC?) and the condition of the rail. given malaysia's KTM rail standards, i'd say about 100kph is the top speed though most trains now travel at about 75kph only. if they maintain better it could go 120kph.Originally posted by disappear:Will the new Siemens trains for the KTM has a higher travelling speed? -
It's a diesel-electric locomotive. According to the technical info, it has a maximum speed of 145 km/h. It's a different story when pulling 10-15 odd carriages but with a maximum power output of 2940 kW, it shouldn't have much of a problem. Anyway, the maximum permitted speed on the main line is 100 km/h while on the East Coast branch line is 90 km/h.Originally posted by ^tamago^:i think the top speed is determined by the type of electrical system (third rail, overhead? DC or AC?) and the condition of the rail. given malaysia's KTM rail standards, i'd say about 100kph is the top speed though most trains now travel at about 75kph only. if they maintain better it could go 120kph. -
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What? You say NEL has annoying station announcements? WHat about the SMRT lines? Everytime a train is going to arrive, there is this ANNOYING announcement telling pple to stand bhind the yellow line.Originally posted by 105090:Why ppl sometimes avoid taking NEL:
>Higher fares
>For journey southbound, if u dont get seat by HG stn, you have to stand all the way
>Long frequencies(min is 5 mins(vs NSL 1~2 mins). night time is 10 mins(vs NSL 8 mins)
>Annoying station announcements
>Irritating braking patterns at stations.(trains brake, then move over a distance and break a 2nd time to stop completely, waste time) -
Originally posted by SBS9845X:
For safety sake, they have to announce that.
What? You say NEL has annoying station announcements? WHat about the SMRT lines? Everytime a train is going to arrive, there is this ANNOYING announcement telling pple to stand behind the yellow line.
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I don't see the need of the announcement. Why passengers have to be always reminded to stand behind the yellow line? Is it because they don't know the purpose of the yellow line?Originally posted by PJ_Quek:For safety sake, they have to announce that.
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singapore is a nanny state ma.. anyway, i have to support SMRT more than SBS Transit over the announcements..
example, SMRT at least dont have so many anouncements, and dont thanks commuters etc..
SBS Transt NEL gets more creative: like moving to the centre of the carriage. no eat and drink, NO SKATING ?? and many others.. and their thanking of commuters make me mad.. inside the train, is its irratating "Please mind the gap" which ppl had changed to Please SHUT the gap"
and always, once you enter NEL station from ground level, the announcements comes non-stop in 4 languages in maximum volume, right until u reach your dest. station, can u escape from the announcements and whatever..
and again, its high fares, anouncements, long frequencies, "stand-all-the-way-if-you-cant-get-any-seats-after-hougang" format.. well.. stand all the way isnt too pleasing.. aHHH..
me not a NE resident.. me is NSL resident! tho i have these 2 lines within close reach.
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You still don't understand Singaporeans? If something happened, fingers would start pointing everywhere. SMRT is just covering its backsides.Originally posted by tranquilice:I don't see the need of the announcement. Why passengers have to be always reminded to stand behind the yellow line? Is it because they don't know the purpose of the yellow line? 
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Well, even with the announcements, accidents still happened. In the end, who got the blame?Originally posted by kenmin:You still don't understand Singaporeans? If something happened, fingers would start pointing everywhere. SMRT is just covering its backsides. -
generally, in most aspects of life, nothing is perfect. agree? even if you have all the safety measures in place, nothing is guaranteed. and the saying of "Prevention is better than cure" is always overlooked, and people only starts to act after a thing has happened..
theres so many ways to endanger yourself in the MRT stations, especially those above ground ones (and Bishan), than there is on a undergruond station.
talk about bishan MRT.. after all the things happened over the past few years, SMRT only add video recorders to the cameras.. but then, you cant stop a person from commiting suicide eg. etc..
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Well, in all, just be careful, safety first, follow the rules in the station and there will be no problem.
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Well, these announcement sometimes are quite irritating, but having these announcement can alert or remind passanger of anything.Originally posted by 105090:SBS Transt NEL gets more creative: like moving to the centre of the carriage. no eat and drink, NO SKATING ?? and many others.. and their thanking of commuters make me mad.. inside the train, is its irratating "Please mind the gap" which ppl had changed to Please SHUT the gap" and always, once you enter NEL station from ground level, the announcements comes non-stop in 4 languages in maximum volume, right until u reach your dest. station, can u escape from the announcements and whatever..
..me not a NE resident.. me is NSL resident! tho i have these 2 lines within close reach.
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i agree. whether accidents did happen or not, at least u can't blame smrt for not doing all it can to prevent it, including *ahem* safety messages and broadcasts telling them to refrain from standing too near the tracks.Originally posted by kenmin:You still don't understand Singaporeans? If something happened, fingers would start pointing everywhere. SMRT is just covering its backsides.
remind ppl and cover ur own backside. there's a reason for these announcements, whether u like it or not.
i'm at the least happy tat they were sensible enough not to broadcast it everytime a train is due to arrive in 1 minute. when the LCD panels were first installed, they even broadcasted it during the wee hours. after tat, they modified the program to only do it between 7am and midnight. haha. those speakers were so loud i could hear them a bus stop away! -
Can someone teach me each train type?
I would be glad if you can. -
i'd be glad to, but maybe u can go search around first before asking.Originally posted by SBS1908B:Can someone teach me each train type? I would be glad if you can. -
Maybe you can try the MRT Forum?Originally posted by SBS1908B:Can someone teach me each train type? I would be glad if you can. -
Well, I'll share what little that I know. Ok, first up are the pioneer batch of trains. They are delivered from 1986-1989. There are manufactured by Kawasaki Heavy Industries in collaboration with either Kinki Sharyo, Tokyu Car Corporation or Nippon Sharyo. The most abundant type, you'll most often ride on one.Originally posted by SBS1908B:Can someone teach me each train type? I would be glad if you can.
Next up are the Siemens model delivered in 1995 for the Woodlands Extension. They are the ones with a black strip at the doorway.
Lastly are the black trains delivered in 2000-2001 for the Changi Airport extension, made by either Kawasaki or Nippon Sharyo. Different from the rest, very easy to spot.
Technical details are unknown and very hard to find. -
those with the black strips for the woodlands extension has very few trains.. the black strip is to enhance friction?Originally posted by The_Bus_Guide:Well, I'll share what little that I know. Ok, first up are the pioneer batch of trains. They are delivered from 1986-1989. There are manufactured by Kawasaki Heavy Industries in collaboration with either Kinki Sharyo, Tokyu Car Corporation or Nippon Sharyo. The most abundant type, you'll most often ride on one.
Next up are the Siemens model delivered in 1995 for the Woodlands Extension. They are the ones with a black strip at the doorway.
Lastly are the black trains delivered in 2000-2001 for the Changi Airport extension, made by either Kawasaki or Nippon Sharyo. Different from the rest, very easy to spot.
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There is one with green LED desto.