SBST ordered new buses to replace Mark twos
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I'm wondering, what's the language of his communication ?!!??
Is the fellor inputing in some foreign language & using some auto language conversion software to try to convert his non-English to English ??
I believe coming across someone writing the input in Chinese & getting the computer to convert & output in (broken) English & the resulting sentences all sound nonsensical & beyond interpretation ! If the fellor doesn't understand English, i suppose he's not aware of what's going on ?!
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yo wuddddupp muhh niggaz homies itz fity in da house chiik out muh mothafuc'kin pics widd muh homies yo white ass shiett fo shizzle ma nizzle!! -
I mean single deck. If is not Scania, what would it be ?Originally posted by ^tamago^:wat the......... SD's?
the pioneer of DD's in Singapore is Leyland.
Scania's are not popular cos it's high-maintenance and it's hard to procure spares.
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Yes, and he even flood the post with the 50+ photos and my topic too, showing men photos. I've also tried to convert his language but cannot.Originally posted by hseochin:I'm wondering, what's the language of his communication ?!!??
Is the fellor inputing in some foreign language & using some auto language conversion software to try to convert his non-English to English ??
I believe coming across someone writing the input in Chinese & getting the computer to convert & output in (broken) English & the resulting sentences all sound nonsensical & beyond interpretation ! If the fellor doesn't understand English, i suppose he's not aware of what's going on ?!
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Originally posted by = fity cent =:
yo wuddddupp muhh niggaz homies itz fity in da house chiik out muh mothafuc'kin pics widd muh homies yo white ass shiett fo shizzle ma nizzle!! -
first single deck? maybe sometime in the 1900s, those trams.Originally posted by CAIX:I mean single deck. If is not Scania, what would it be ?
What about Nissan ? Why SBS stop shipping Japan buses like Nissan ?
unless u're talking bout SBS. tat one we need someone else to answer.
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I dislike MK2s man.. very cramped legsroom and the air nozzles blow out hot air despite fantastic acceleration. The sbs guys didn't do leg measurement ah? Bad ergonomics u know! Imagine sitting inside the bus during long journey... cannot tahan la! Haiz... I prefer NAC Scania CRBs!
I don't mind letting go of MK2s. I'd rather keep NAC Scanias. I prefer Volvo B57s to MK2s. The former are better!
Nothing great abt japanese TIBS buses la. Nissan diesel good performance but their suspensions sucks man. SMRT made a good choice by buying Dennis Lances. They are cheaper than MBO405s right? -
MAN buses are also quite inexpensive. They have a plant in Malaysia, like UMW-Dennis.Originally posted by cool_elf:I dislike MK2s man.. very cramped legsroom and the air nozzles blow out hot air despite fantastic acceleration. The sbs guys didn't do leg measurement ah? Bad ergonomics u know! Imagine sitting inside the bus during long journey... cannot tahan la! Haiz... I prefer NAC Scania CRBs!
I don't mind letting go of MK2s. I'd rather keep NAC Scanias. I prefer Volvo B57s to MK2s. The former are better!
Nothing great abt japanese TIBS buses la. Nissan diesel good performance but their suspensions sucks man. SMRT made a good choice by buying Dennis Lances. They are cheaper than MBO405s right? -
Well, these were the old types...Originally posted by cool_elf:I dislike MK2s man.. very cramped legsroom and the air nozzles blow out hot air despite fantastic acceleration. The sbs guys didn't do leg measurement ah? Bad ergonomics u know! Imagine sitting inside the bus during long journey... cannot tahan la! Haiz... I prefer NAC Scania CRBs!
I don't mind letting go of MK2s. I'd rather keep NAC Scanias. I prefer Volvo B57s to MK2s. The former are better!
Nothing great abt japanese TIBS buses la. Nissan diesel good performance but their suspensions sucks man. SMRT made a good choice by buying Dennis Lances. They are cheaper than MBO405s right? -
My question is : Which is the single deck pioneer in SBS. I though is the scania fleet.Originally posted by ^tamago^:first single deck? maybe sometime in the 1900s, those trams.
unless u're talking bout SBS. tat one we need someone else to answer.
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LTA has replied regarding the extension.
SBST had "appealed to LTA for the use a batch of SBST buses that are exceeding 17 years as they need time to develop detail specifications and call tender to purchase a new batch of buses."
After careful consideration, LTA has "allowed the use of the batch of buses for another 2 years.", subject to them being "checked and certified by a Professional Engineer" that they are safe to be used for another 2 years, and also having passed a roadworthiness inspection conducted by any LTA authorised inspection centres. -
Probably the LP1113s and Leyland Vikings.Originally posted by CAIX:My question is : Which is the single deck pioneer in SBS. I though is the scania fleet. -
Ho, mystery solved. Is it only the 180 or so Mk IIs that will serve till 2008 or will the Scanias join them too?Originally posted by ^tamago^:LTA has replied regarding the extension.
SBST had "appealed to LTA for the use a batch of SBST buses that are exceeding 17 years as they need time to develop detail specifications and call tender to purchase a new batch of buses."
After careful consideration, LTA has "allowed the use of the batch of buses for another 2 years.", subject to them being "checked and certified by a Professional Engineer" that they are safe to be used for another 2 years, and also having passed a roadworthiness inspection conducted by any LTA authorised inspection centres. -
The Scania came in 1990, which made it 17 years too late to become the pioneer single deck of SBS. The pioneer buses were way back in 1973, when SBS was created. All of the buses were transferred over from Singapore Traction Company and the Chinese bus companies. Most of them date from the 1960s and were far from roadworthy conditions. The most common models include, ALbion Viking VK/EVK41L/UL, MB LP1113, OF1413 and Nissan 4R94/RX102.Originally posted by CAIX:My question is : Which is the single deck pioneer in SBS. I though is the scania fleet.
If you're talking about the first buses which were bought by SBS, then the honour went to Leyland with the Albion Viking EVK55CL/CUL (the CUL was the longer wheelbase version of the CL). This was the first large order of SBS with 255 buses delivered from 1975-1977. Following that was another big order from Leyland in the form of 144 Victories (known within SBS as the Guy Victory rather than Leyland Victory) delivered between 1975-1978. -
Oh.. I understand. Thanks!Originally posted by The_Bus_Guide:The Scania came in 1990, which made it 17 years too late to become the pioneer single deck of SBS. The pioneer buses were way back in 1973, when SBS was created. All of the buses were transferred over from Singapore Traction Company and the Chinese bus companies. Most of them date from the 1960s and were far from roadworthy conditions. The most common models include, ALbion Viking VK/EVK41L/UL, MB LP1113, OF1413 and Nissan 4R94/RX102.
If you're talking about the first buses which were bought by SBS, then the honour went to Leyland with the Albion Viking EVK55CL/CUL (the CUL was the longer wheelbase version of the CL). This was the first large order of SBS with 255 buses delivered from 1975-1977. Following that was another big order from Leyland in the form of 144 Victories (known within SBS as the Guy Victory rather than Leyland Victory) delivered between 1975-1978.LTA has replied regarding the extension.
The MK IIs should be safe to ride, espacially the CAC.
SBST had "appealed to LTA for the use a batch of SBST buses that are exceeding 17 years as they need time to develop detail specifications and call tender to purchase a new batch of buses."
After careful consideration, LTA has "allowed the use of the batch of buses for another 2 years.", subject to them being "checked and certified by a Professional Engineer" that they are safe to be used for another 2 years, and also having passed a roadworthiness inspection conducted by any LTA authorised inspection centres.
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the 195 Mk II's, if they're all staying. cos tis includes NAC, i dun think SBST may extend those NAC Mk II's.Originally posted by iveco:Ho, mystery solved. Is it only the 180 or so Mk IIs that will serve till 2008 or will the Scanias join them too?
tis is an arrangement exclusive to Mk II's. it does not affect the LTA policy of 17 years life span for omnibuses. tis also applies to the Scanias. -
Did SBST give LTA reasons that they are introducing new services, thus they need LTA to extend the life span? or is it the other way round, whereby LTA require them to introduce new services, in order to extend the life span?
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where u heard from?Originally posted by lemon1974:Did SBST give LTA reasons that they are introducing new services, thus they need LTA to extend the life span? or is it the other way round, whereby LTA require them to introduce new services, in order to extend the life span?
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Dennis Lance the bus the design very funny the first part of the bus very low and and want to reach for the AC outlet it is so high and sometimes need to tip-top. For the second part it is so high and there is a step to go on top and down. But overall the bus is still not bad as I like the sound of the bus and sometimes can go very fast which depend on which BC driving the busOriginally posted by cool_elf:I dislike MK2s man.. very cramped legsroom and the air nozzles blow out hot air despite fantastic acceleration. The sbs guys didn't do leg measurement ah? Bad ergonomics u know! Imagine sitting inside the bus during long journey... cannot tahan la! Haiz... I prefer NAC Scania CRBs!
I don't mind letting go of MK2s. I'd rather keep NAC Scanias. I prefer Volvo B57s to MK2s. The former are better!
Nothing great abt japanese TIBS buses la. Nissan diesel good performance but their suspensions sucks man. SMRT made a good choice by buying Dennis Lances. They are cheaper than MBO405s right? -
adding on, it is now possible for SBST to be introducing even more services for this half of the year, given that all Mk II's have been cleared for 2-year extension to 2007/2008, though it'll be chaotic then with the retirement of 395 buses. maybe they can speed up CCL.Originally posted by lemon1974:Did SBST give LTA reasons that they are introducing new services, thus they need LTA to extend the life span? or is it the other way round, whereby LTA require them to introduce new services, in order to extend the life span?
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I'd rather the Scanias & Mercs retire together. But wouldn't it be even more chaotic since more vehicles are sent to their graves? By then, the opening of CCL and arrival of OC500s would have already mitigated the situation. Not to mention the B9TLs would have been serving for some time.Originally posted by ^tamago^:adding on, it is now possible for SBST to be introducing even more services for this half of the year, given that all Mk II's have been cleared for 2-year extension to 2007/2008, though it'll be chaotic then with the retirement of 395 buses. maybe they can speed up CCL. -
No.. never heard anything.. was just thinking abt it when looking at SV57 and SV58 threads.Originally posted by ^tamago^:where u heard from?
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So those NAC MK II will also stay? I tot SBST might want to retire these NAC MK II buses, keeping those CAC buses..Originally posted by ^tamago^:adding on, it is now possible for SBST to be introducing even more services for this half of the year, given that all Mk II's have been cleared for 2-year extension to 2007/2008, though it'll be chaotic then with the retirement of 395 buses. maybe they can speed up CCL. -
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I'm inclined to believe why it seems no new public buses in Singapore lately is because the operators here are thinking of 'jumping' from their current Euro-2 vehicles here to Euro-4 & skipping Euro-3 instead. Anyway, i'm beginning to find it somewhat 'awkward' to see Malaysian operators (they 'supposed' to be more backward than the Singapore ones ?) already using new M-B O 500's with Euro-3 potential while even the big operators in Singapore still stuck @ Euro-2 levels on their buses here.
I find the relative inefficientcy of CNG buses (to the diesel versions) remains a major deterrent to adopting CNG buses on any large scale. Therefore using Euro-4 diesel instead (of CNG) would still ultimately be THE more practical choice, especially with driving range & fuel utilisation efficientcy & efficacy taken into account. No need to bother with bulky CNG tanks which rob quite some space on the bus ! Overall exhaust emissions still low enough to meet Euro-4 standards & no need to be limited to using only low sulphur diesel, which is still more expensive & less readilly available in this part of the world.
Of late. i notice in Germany they starting to use the Citaro with Euro-4 diesels.
The new Ad-blue fuel additive on these Euro-4 diesel engines sounds an overall more practical space efficient alternative to having 'bulky' CNG buses. The Ad-blue tank is much smaller with only a small quantity needed to add to the diesel fuel & the technology certainly does seem very promising for large scale practical use eventhough costs go up somewhat due to the Ad-blue additive & the supporting infrastructure of Ad-blue refillng stations required to supply to the fleet operators.
I believe if the big operators here like SBST were to invest a bit in setting up the Ad-blue supply infrastructure here, not only would it serve their own fleet but can also be offered to private commercial operators of buses, coaches or trucks here in future as they also upgrade to Euro-4 & Euro-5 diesels using this Ad-blue additive solution in time to come. With more demand likely lower bulk buying prices of the additive can then be negotiated with the fuel suppliers.Originally posted by Airbus330Captain:SBStransithas ordered 100 new CNG merc OC500LE
in volgren CR228L bodywork
perth
and melbounrne assembled
maybe we cna spot the differences of a perth volgren and a melborune volgren when....the buses arrive in 2005
the enginner mentioned something abt replacing mark 2s for these new pruchase
they shall be using CNG to run. most likely go SLBP?
source dave of perth whose source is engineer of mercedes dealer in..perth
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No thanks man, the faster the scanias N113 retire, the better for me . I am absolutely sick and disgusted of the sight of those scrap metals.Originally posted by iveco:I'd rather the Scanias & Mercs retire together. But wouldn't it be even more chaotic since more vehicles are sent to their graves? By then, the opening of CCL and arrival of OC500s would have already mitigated the situation. Not to mention the B9TLs would have been serving for some time. -
again, the AC buses are in better shape than the NAC volvos..
try taking one NAc mk2 (WA) esp in JIE, and you will see its true colours.. doors can open by itself, the overhead compartments looking like its going to drop off etc etc.. its outside looks liked it just came out from jalan halus
to me, the scanias look proper from the outside, no big "cracks" and holes