giving single deck services double decks..your top 3 choices
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topic self explanatory. which "strictly" single deck services now do u think are unable to cope with passenger load, and thus deserve double deck buses. your TOP THREE choices please!
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most of the services that cannot cope with SDs cannot get DDs, namely :
16 (height limit @ Natl Stadium, road restriction @ Joo Chiat Rd)
24 (height limit @ Changi Airport)
27 (height limit @ Changi Airport)
33 (rood restriction @ Joo Chiat Place)
36 (height limit @ Changi Airport)
38 (road restriction @ Simei St 4)
63 (road restriction @ Rumah Tinggi)
95 (height limit / road restriction @ Lwr Kent Ridge Rd, Kent Ridge Cres)
96 (road restriction @ Kent Ridge Cres)
100 (heightl limit @ Upp Aljunied Rd)
124 (height limit @ Henderson Rd, Telok Blangah Hts)
130 (height limit @ Sin Ming?)
135 (height limit @ Upp Aljunied Rd)
139 (height limit / road restriction @ Jln Rajah area)
145 (height limit @ Henderson Rd)
151 (road restriction @ Kent Ridge Cres)
195 (height limit @ Depot Rd)
excluding the above services, I suggest svc 18 get full day DDs and svc 19 get DDs during peak hrs, perhaps crossover from svc 81. -
While some single deck services may genuinely be restricted by height limits at certain portions of their routes, I think some services use single decks purely because the passenger load doesn't merit dds.
For example, a few years ago, 130 used to have non a/c double deck around my place. 139 oso used to have double decks. both these services have not changed their routes much (if at all) oso.
i also remember 63 and 135 having double decks...but cannot remember if changes to their routes subseqently made them switch to single decks.
my choices now are 410, 18, and 163. -
TOP CHOICE: 163
SECOND CHOICE: 410
THIRD CHOICE: 54
Would like to see DENNIS Tridents and VSOs on 163, VO3Ax on 410 and LOs on 54. -
SBS9845X you must live in the same area as i do hehehehehe
how about 162? pretty crowded most of the time too. -
Me prefer few svs that gets double decks:
13, 15, 19, 38, 78, 90, 96, 100, 135, 139, 151
If not use superlong bus for: 24, 27, 33, 36, 53, 66, 95, 105, 145, 156, feeders (Incl 410) -
Service 18 gets DDs during the AM and PM peak hours.Originally posted by SilverKris:my choices now are 410, 18, and 163. -
As much as this is an 'opinion' thread, putting superlong buses on the abovementioned services, especially Services 24, 27, 33, 36 and 53 is totally out of sane mind.Originally posted by sbst275:Me prefer few svs that gets double decks:
13, 15, 19, 38, 78, 90, 96, 100, 135, 139, 151
If not use superlong bus for: 24, 27, 33, 36, 53, 66, 95, 105, 145, 156, feeders (Incl 410) -
svc 130 IMO should get DDs if no limits, loads are quite good during peak hrs.Originally posted by SilverKris:While some single deck services may genuinely be restricted by height limits at certain portions of their routes, I think some services use single decks purely because the passenger load doesn't merit dds.
For example, a few years ago, 130 used to have non a/c double deck around my place. 139 oso used to have double decks. both these services have not changed their routes much (if at all) oso.
i also remember 63 and 135 having double decks...but cannot remember if changes to their routes subseqently made them switch to single decks.
my choices now are 410, 18, and 163.
svc 139 had LAs and LO3Xs while it plied straight down Balestier Rd, they disappeared after it was amended to ply into St Michael's Est.
most services with SDs dun need DDs, but the ones I have written above need them.
svc 163 does not need DDs at all. I was waiting for an appointment @ Upp Thomson Rd during several days, morning peak hrs, so I just watched buses. svc 163 was easily the one with the worst freq (maybe besides 605), so just pump up the freq to maybe 9 min per bus. -
Does 156 have height restriction? Then how did Svc 5 O305s mamage to get through 6th Ave in the past?Originally posted by sbst275:Me prefer few svs that gets double decks:
13, 15, 19, 38, 78, 90, 96, 100, 135, 139, 151
If not use superlong bus for: 24, 27, 33, 36, 53, 66, 95, 105, 145, 156, feeders (Incl 410)
78 ever had LO2X serving in the past. So did 90. -
Svc 156 does have height restriction and I think DDs would have a hard time navigating the bumpy and narrow Sixth Ave. however, it does not need DDs. Loads during weekends are not very good, as it is mainly a schoolbus service, maybe just needs a few tweaks to its freq.Originally posted by iveco:Does 156 have height restriction? Then how did Svc 5 O305s mamage to get through 6th Ave in the past?
78 ever had LO2X serving in the past. So did 90.
svc 90 can use DDs during peak hrs, but I dun think SBST would put VO3X or LO3X on it. -
If I'm not mistaken, 63 used to have LAs plying. I don't see how DD can't manage the incline at Rumah Tinggi.
Punggol Rd also used to have low branches in the past. What happened later? Were they pruned so that SBST could deploy VO3X on 82? -
130 does not need DD as its loading is purely peak hrs onli
163 perhaps some S shift ones... to cope with peak hrss -
HellO.. hmm.. regarding to the list.. i dont think theres a restriction on Upp Aljunied Rd.. remember seeing DD bus serving that road.. there was once.. when there was a accident along Upp Serangoon Rd.. All buses were diverted to serve Upp Aljunied Rd.. include DD Bus servicing 85,81,82,97 etc...
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Sorry to say that you are wrong.. when 139 was amended to ply into St Michael's Est, the LO3x did turn into St Michael's Est.. i remember seeing 139 DD Bus zooming down the slope while sitting in the Whampoa Food Center..Originally posted by leeJZ:svc 130 IMO should get DDs if no limits, loads are quite good during peak hrs.
svc 139 had LAs and LO3Xs while it plied straight down Balestier Rd, they disappeared after it was amended to ply into St Michael's Est.
most services with SDs dun need DDs, but the ones I have written above need them.
svc 163 does not need DDs at all. I was waiting for an appointment @ Upp Thomson Rd during several days, morning peak hrs, so I just watched buses. svc 163 was easily the one with the worst freq (maybe besides 605), so just pump up the freq to maybe 9 min per bus. -
If you want to place superlong buses on 33, be an SBST driver, then drive 997 on 33 in the Joo Chiat area. Then you'll know how hard it is to place superlong buses on such a route on 33. Please think before you suggest something like this...?Originally posted by sbst275:If not use superlong bus for: 24, 27, 33, 36, 53, 66, 95, 105, 145, 156, feeders (Incl 410)
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I suppose u live in upp thomson? I like that place, got lotsa buses going to city and west side. City: 130/132/162/163(Toa Payoh)/166/167/980 West: 166/165/167 Also north: 410(Bishan)/980/167/163(Sengkang and YCK Rd).Originally posted by SilverKris:SBS9845X you must live in the same area as i do hehehehehe
how about 162? pretty crowded most of the time too.
Great place to live in!
Anyways, abt 162.....i dun think need DDs, but can have one or two......better put on 163.....lolx -
Top: 238
Second: 145
Third: 90
Since they cut down the number of services plying through Toa Payoh, bus service 238 always crammed during peak hours and after school. The bus pass through FTPPS and FTPSS. When school dismissed, the bus not enough space to accomodate all the people. Either they restore bus service 237 or do something because students from PCPS also use this bus plus many of them who live in Lorong 8 and Kim Keat because only this bus pass through the area.
Last time got 232 and 237 I would take bus to get to TP Central but now I rather walk during Saturdays and Sundays than to take the bus where you've got to wait for a long time and in the end, find that too many people liao cannot board. -
Oh yar.....still got 54 (City and Bishan), 74(West and North-East), 851 (north and city and a little west), 852 (west and north)
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Either increase 238 freq to 3 mins or deploy DDs on it. Also can intro new service to serve kim keat, lor 8, lor 7 to central and braddell rd.Originally posted by 01024G:Top: 238
Second: 145
Third: 90
Since they cut down the number of services plying through Toa Payoh, bus service 238 always crammed during peak hours and after school. The bus pass through FTPPS and FTPSS. When school dismissed, the bus not enough space to accomodate all the people. Either they restore bus service 237 or do something because students from PCPS also use this bus plus many of them who live in Lorong 8 and Kim Keat because only this bus pass through the area.
Last time got 232 and 237 I would take bus to get to TP Central but now I rather walk during Saturdays and Sundays than to take the bus where you've got to wait for a long time and in the end, find that too many people liao cannot board. -
Read the topic carefully. Its SOLELY single deck services. Svc 74 has more than half of the fleet being DDs. Svc 54 can still handle the load comfortably for most of the sectors. There is also 54A to ply the ultra busy St22-Bishan MRT sector during morning peak.Originally posted by SBS9845X:Oh yar.....still got 54 (City and Bishan), 74(West and North-East), 851 (north and city and a little west), 852 (west and north)
Svc 851 is SMRT so obviously it can never get DDs, and it already have a fair amount of high capacity bendys.
Svc 852 is also SMRT and loads are CMI during non-peak periods, and during morning peak, although cram like crazy, there are students like me who give our money to SBST cos they handle the Bt Timah loads much better with svc 74. -
Talking abt me?Originally posted by 01024G:Top: 238
Second: 145
Third: 90
Since they cut down the number of services plying through Toa Payoh, bus service 238 always crammed during peak hours and after school. The bus pass through FTPPS and FTPSS. When school dismissed, the bus not enough space to accomodate all the people. Either they restore bus service 237 or do something because students from PCPS also use this bus plus many of them who live in Lorong 8 and Kim Keat because only this bus pass through the area.
Last time got 232 and 237 I would take bus to get to TP Central but now I rather walk during Saturdays and Sundays than to take the bus where you've got to wait for a long time and in the end, find that too many people liao cannot board.
Currently freq after school dismissal is 4 min. Recently 238 added one more full day bus to its fleet. The current fleet is able to cope with the loads. Unless u define crowded as a few standing pax, i got nothing else to say.
One more thing.. there's quite a handful of elderly using 238. I dont think they wanna walk that much in a bus right? (note that 238 serve TP Polyclinic)
If 238 gets DDs, freq will worsen to 6 min which i personally would not want to have.
238 stays
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Even if SBS runs YIS Int, it can't use DD becos of height constraints. Anyway, SMRT has its way around the problem. it favours Habit buses. They are more versatile.Originally posted by TIB1186Z:Read the topic carefully. Its SOLELY single deck services. Svc 74 has more than half of the fleet being DDs. Svc 54 can still handle the load comfortably for most of the sectors. There is also 54A to ply the ultra busy St22-Bishan MRT sector during morning peak.
Svc 851 is SMRT so obviously it can never get DDs, and it already have a fair amount of high capacity bendys.
Svc 852 is also SMRT and loads are CMI during non-peak periods, and during morning peak, although cram like crazy, there are students like me who give our money to SBST cos they handle the Bt Timah loads much better with svc 74. -
nono...i was only toking abt the buses from my area....not abt the DDs.....sori sori...
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I suppose u live in upp thomson? I like that place, got lotsa buses going to city and west side. City: 130/132/162/163(Toa Payoh)/166/167/980 West: 166/165/167 Also north: 410(Bishan)/980/167/163(Sengkang and YCK Rd).
SBS9845X...in that area lor....but not convenient to disclose exact location hehehe
Great place to live in!
Anyways, abt 162.....i dun think need DDs, but can have one or two......better put on 163.....lolx
many buses..but still got problems going to choa chu kang or jurong east or boon lay or tampines or bedok or airport leh.......cannot take taxi or ask my sis/dad to drive me everytime.