2B bikes to intro?
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hey ppl im takin class 2B nw.. after i pass i would like to get a new bike.. any bike to intro from yahama honda or kawa? looking for a sports bike.. please intro me can? den i go look up on the specs and design.. best if u can provide a link, thanks alot !!!
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emmz....
honda u can buy SP...but no new production..
kawasaki can buy KIPS...new production...light..but fairing abit big... -
hmm.. i today when to motor shop.. kawa new one 4K(machine) NSR no more production.. only 2nd hand. the shop 2nd hand one 1K(machine).. which is better NSR or KIPS? kips got lousy design.. those kind of malaysian look my friend said.. no offense to malaysian. sorry. dats what she said..
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when i first got my bike liscence... i also went for a sports bike (NSR). That time, a lot of ppl nagged at me to get a "safer" bike like an yamaha RZ150.. i ignored them and found them irritating...
can't believe now, I'm going to nag someone to ride a "safer" road bike. sigh, lao le.
As experienced riders, we have seen too many accidents with sports bike and youngsters as riders... (dat's y when you buy insurance, you pay a higher premium for your age and e sports bike.) I buang within the first 3 months, and got scars to remind me of my stupidity for the rest of my life. the problem is dat new riders still dun have e experience to read the road well, and sports bike are more difficult to control.
Inexperienc + poor control = danger when in difficult situations.
I know that new riders (esp youngsters) would rather not ride at all than to ride on something that looks like crap. But when you go shop for bike, hopefully u will keep your options open, and ask for prices of other types of bikes rather than just your favourite sports bike.
Just a frenly advice from an old man.
(PS. riding phantom now.. the bike the whole of singapore is riding.) -
If for me,i'll get NSR bcos i myself lik it...i already got 1 on hand bcos after passing i oso riding NSR..i dun lik KIPS design too...emmz...but u muz c which 1 u lik more...Originally posted by at0m87:hmm.. i today when to motor shop.. kawa new one 4K(machine) NSR no more production.. only 2nd hand. the shop 2nd hand one 1K(machine).. which is better NSR or KIPS? kips got lousy design.. those kind of malaysian look my friend said.. no offense to malaysian. sorry. dats what she said.. onli different is 1st hand and 2nd hand.. -
Wat do u look for in sports bike?? performance or nice looks? Kips had always been the bez out of TZM and SP in terms of performance. The looks not bad actually. SP has nice looks but the worse performance out of the three. So make ur choice wisely boy!.Originally posted by at0m87:hey ppl im takin class 2B nw.. after i pass i would like to get a new bike.. any bike to intro from yahama honda or kawa? looking for a sports bike.. please intro me can? den i go look up on the specs and design.. best if u can provide a link, thanks alot !!!
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hmm that you suggest i dun get a sports bike first? then what bike shuld i get..?Originally posted by k4korny:when i first got my bike liscence... i also went for a sports bike (NSR). That time, a lot of ppl nagged at me to get a "safer" bike like an yamaha RZ150.. i ignored them and found them irritating...
can't believe now, I'm going to nag someone to ride a "safer" road bike. sigh, lao le.
As experienced riders, we have seen too many accidents with sports bike and youngsters as riders... (dat's y when you buy insurance, you pay a higher premium for your age and e sports bike.) I buang within the first 3 months, and got scars to remind me of my stupidity for the rest of my life. the problem is dat new riders still dun have e experience to read the road well, and sports bike are more difficult to control. Inexperienc + poor control = danger when in difficult situations.
I know that new riders (esp youngsters) would rather not ride at all than to ride on something that looks like crap. But when you go shop for bike, hopefully u will keep your options open, and ask for prices of other types of bikes rather than just your favourite sports bike.
Just a frenly advice from an old man.
(PS. riding phantom now.. the bike the whole of singapore is riding.) -
hmm i personally like kips's(blue) design.. not bad.. i rather not get a NSR since its performance is dat lousy compared to the rest but i do agree that it has the nicest design out of the 3 bikes.. maybe will consider gettin TZM? izzit still in production? hw much is it huh? i didnt ask about tzm when i was at the motor workshop..Originally posted by mojojojo56:Wat do u look for in sports bike?? performance or nice looks? Kips had always been the bez out of TZM and SP in terms of performance. The looks not bad actually. SP has nice looks but the worse performance out of the three. So make ur choice wisely boy!. -
emmz...u shld buy wat u prefer oso...performance out of the 3 bikes is hard to say....if u hav the skill,it's hard to say le....emmz...TZM...i dun tink there is still in production cos it's quite a old model le...Originally posted by at0m87:hmm i personally like kips's(blue) design.. not bad.. i rather not get a NSR since its performance is dat lousy compared to the rest but i do agree that it has the nicest design out of the 3 bikes.. maybe will consider gettin TZM? izzit still in production? hw much is it huh? i didnt ask about tzm when i was at the motor workshop.. -
hmm so now only sports bike in production is kips? yamaha and honda dun haf any sports bike in production now huh? wanna get NSR or TZM only 2nd hand?
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atom, are u aiming to get ur class 2A or 2 later on?
If yes, my advice, get a ah-peh bike to ride first.
Ah-peh bikes:-
1.) Honda CG-125
2.) Suzuki GN-125
3.) Yamaha, RXK, RXZ (earlier models)
4.) etc, etc.
Why?
1.) It is cheaper. In terms of bike price, insurance, etc.
2.) If u buang, u dun feel the pinch. can't be said if u buang a SP, and the fairing goes everywhere.
3.) If worst come to worst, u want to scrap, also dun feel the pinch also.
4.) It is more fuel economical.
My experience.
When I got my class 2B, my mind was already set to get a 400cc bike. So I rode on my dad's honda CG-125.
Yeh, I look ugly, no doubt. If u happen to see a gorilla riding on a bike during 2000 o 2001. Thats me. But thats only for 1 year. After which, I got my class 2A, scrap my class 2B bike and got myself a 400cc bike. Now, I have passed my class 3 planning to take up Class 2.
So just bear wif it for awhile then u got a powerful bike to ride liao. -
haha honda CG TITAN 125 ? dat is a damn lousy bike.. riding it in SSDC.. or izzit the bike condition dere is bad? i dun haf a good impression of that bike.. vibrates alot..
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yamaha shld be not bad (though really didnt update which r the latest models now)
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come to think of it... there are very few class 2B sports bike on the road liao hor?
these 2 days tried to take note while riding. didn't even see any TZM's. if there is sports bike, then most likely its a KIPS.
I ride phantom 200. very smooth pickup, very fuel ecomomic (abt $12 for every 300km) and doesn't look dat ah-pek. Problem is pickup a bit slow, the original IRC tyres sucks (have to change), cannot corner too fast, top speed abt 95-105kmh, and of course, it's everywhere. Would recommend it as a beginner's bike.
I tried out my fren's Piaggio X9. Very nice bike.. easy to control, very smooth n quite fast pickup, a lot of boot space for your stuff, no gears scooter. but think it's a 2A bike rite?
kinda agree Octega.. altho u dun have to go to dat extreme as CG-125.. haha. -
The few common 2B ferring bikes to date are quite limited.
Yamaha TZM / TZR (older version of TZM) : Mostly are thrashed and a few of them are illegally modified with through pipe (means if caught by TP means $500 to the govt).
And the price is more exp compared to KRR and SP, even though the bike is quite old. But said to be the fastest amongst all 2B bikes.
Honda NSR150SP : Alot of them also already thrashed liao, very few with favourable engine condition. Looks nicer than a KRR (at least to me), price higher than a KRR generally (depending on vehicle plate), but cheaper than TZM. Stock bikes can go up to 180 kph (or less? I ain't sure, somewhere around there). And Honda parts are generally cheaper.
Kawasaki KRR150 : Light bike, thus its pickup is slightly better. (Used to ride a KRR) Relatively cheaper and newwer than SP, 2nd hand bike can get at less than 3K. Cheapest than TZM and SP generally. But it also means the bike has no resale value.
Honda CBR150 : 4-stroke machine, pickup slowest compared to the above. A light mahine too. But it's definitely more fuel-efficient than the rest.
Aprilia RS125 : Has new and 2nd hand bikes. First hand bike is very exp, can get a brand new Super 4, 2nd hand is very cheap, but the engine and outlook conditionmay not be favourable anymore. Nice bike with nice posture to corner, but pickup is quite slow compared to TZM, SP and KRR.
Italian bike, aka high maintanence bike, even a mirror by itself costs $80. Not recommended if you have a budget. -
dude... every 2b bike tends to vibrate a lot one... especially if ur control of clutch and throttle is iffy..... i have to say in my time at ssdc which only ended some 2 weeks ago, i enjoyed riding the titan all the time except the first time. cos before that was on the cb125 which is a bit heavier.. so the lighter weight meant a slight 'rush' (cant think of better word) which caught me by surprise.Originally posted by at0m87:haha honda CG TITAN 125 ? dat is a damn lousy bike.. riding it in SSDC.. or izzit the bike condition dere is bad? i dun haf a good impression of that bike.. vibrates alot..
but due to heavy usage, some bikes have really suffered at ssdc.. -
Originally posted by k4korny:
haha one of my frens riding a cg125 now.. i like to call it the singtel bike... cgx125 titan is an improvement. now my fren on the cg125 wants a gt200... vespa (-_-")
come to think of it... there are very few class 2B sports bike on the road liao hor?
these 2 days tried to take note while riding. didn't even see any TZM's. if there is sports bike, then most likely its a KIPS.
I ride phantom 200. very smooth pickup, very fuel ecomomic (abt $12 for every 300km) and doesn't look dat ah-pek. [b]Problem is pickup a bit slow, the original IRC tyres sucks (have to change), cannot corner too fast, top speed abt 95-105kmh, and of course, it's everywhere. Would recommend it as a beginner's bike.
I tried out my fren's Piaggio X9. Very nice bike.. easy to control, very smooth n quite fast pickup, a lot of boot space for your stuff, no gears scooter. but think it's a 2A bike rite?
kinda agree Octega.. altho u dun have to go to dat extreme as CG-125.. haha. [/b] -
You couldnt even name the bikes model correctly. How you going to know which is the fastestOriginally posted by mojojojo56:Wat do u look for in sports bike?? performance or nice looks? Kips had always been the bez out of TZM and SP in terms of performance. The looks not bad actually. SP has nice looks but the worse performance out of the three. So make ur choice wisely boy!.
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KIPS: Kawasaki Integrated Powervalve System
SP: Sport Performance (Also means Proarm in reference of RR Swingarm)
Kawasaki KRR150 and Honda NSR150 either SP or RR.
A stock RS125 with a full mod KRR150 challenge. A rider without the right skills to launch the bike will lose out to a stock machine too. So, it varies. Drag races are not as simple as you think as: Clutch in, shift up & throttle. Or Horsepower. But to do these three steps in less than 0.5 second. Can you? Anyway, clutch will be useless when you really wanna race. Chill out guys! -
I think that isn't really what he wants to know....
But anyway, most importantly is to see ur budget and what you really like. Many people still want SP, so it still has slightly better resale value than KRR.
If u want a bike without much vibration, maybe get a 4-stroke bike will be better than a 2-stroke. Vibration is less and more fuel-efficient. -
actually which part is the swingarm? i dun quite get this part
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sorry dude im new.. but dun haf to suan me till like dat mah.. hiaz.. but anyway thanks for tellin me..Originally posted by hohosaint:You couldnt even name the bikes model correctly. How you going to know which is the fastest .
KIPS: Kawasaki Integrated Powervalve System
SP: Sport Performance (Also means Proarm in reference of RR Swingarm)
Kawasaki KRR150 and Honda NSR150 either SP or RR.
A stock RS125 with a full mod KRR150 challenge. A rider without the right skills to launch the bike will lose out to a stock machine too. So, it varies. Drag races are not as simple as you think as: Clutch in, shift up & throttle. Or Horsepower. But to do these three steps in less than 0.5 second. Can you? Anyway, clutch will be useless when you really wanna race. Chill out guys! -
hmm about the vibration of the bikes in SSDC i tink it is due to poor maintaince and oso abuse of the machine.. because i haf actually rode on a few of the CG125 which actually i dun feel the vibration.. and it actually feels more powerful, not like the other bike which vibrate so much.. i dunno hw to describe the feeling.. but i jus turn the trottle and half clutch the bike move effortlessly.. the rest of the bikes dere always vibrate alot.. when moving offf... not smooth.. izzit my skill or jus the bike?
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Oops... I sounded alittle hash... I apologize.Originally posted by at0m87:sorry dude im new.. but dun haf to suan me till like dat mah.. hiaz.. but anyway thanks for tellin me..
Anyway, the 2 bikes. Depends on individual likings la. Getting either bike will be good but remember. Get a good working condition which can last you at least 1000km. -
i would recommend you to go for Honda cub, either Wave or Sonic. Reason is they r reliable, fuel-friendly, lastly most importantly they r nicer in design and spare parts is easy to come by.
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wave is good... planning to get one soon..
