now got new phantom got 200c.cOriginally posted by TZR:if u buy at bike shop downpay must at least $1500. If u buy from private owner u can discuss with them. My reccomendation is u go shop ask. Phantom engine and SP engine is the same, only that phantom chasis is abit heavier than SP. Price wise also abt same with SP. $5800 can get for 1st hand.