ZZR1100 vs CBR1100XX

• NoRiceBoys

  1 Feb 06, 23:31

  Hi
  I'm looking to buy a sport tourer and my choices are the Kawa ZZR1100 and CBR1100XX.
  
  My criteria is:
  1) Reliability
  2) Comfort for long distance riding
  3) Comfort for city driving (traffic jams)
  4) Comfort for pillion
  5) Power and fun factor
  6) Low wind noise and good wind protection
  7) Fuel consumption
  
  Can anyone advise me on where I can read more on comparisons between these two bikes, their pros and cons and comparisons of the factors listed above?
  
  Thank you very much!
• BaByBoY

  2 Feb 06, 02:14

  nv seen ZZR..
  
  but i like BB
• Troy437

  2 Feb 06, 02:26

  Both are not tourer...
  
  Tourer shd get ST 11 or BMW...
• NoRiceBoys

  2 Feb 06, 09:50

  *Sport* tourers bro, not tourers. The CBR 1100 XX and ZZR 1100 are classified as sport tourers.
• Bryan^

  2 Feb 06, 14:46

  a haya or zx12 will be a better choice like tt...BB is way too underpowered
• NoRiceBoys

  2 Feb 06, 17:07

  Thanks Bryan, I checked out the ZX12 and you're right on the power! 175HP is impressive even for a car! Busa looks very ugly to me so I won't be considering it (no offense to Busa riders).
  
  One reason I"m looking at the Blackbird and ZZR is because I want an older bike as I don't want to spend too much on them.
  
  I've owned mostly Hondas, and never owned a Kawa before. How're they like in terms of fit and finish, reliability, parts quality and durability and parts price?
  
  Thanks!
  
  
• redname

  2 Feb 06, 17:21

  Originally posted by NoRiceBoys:

  Thanks Bryan, I checked out the ZX12 and you're right on the power! 175HP is impressive even for a car! Busa looks very ugly to me so I won't be considering it (no offense to Busa riders).
  
  One reason I"m looking at the Blackbird and ZZR is because I want an older bike as I don't want to spend too much on them.
  
  I've owned mostly Hondas, and never owned a Kawa before. How're they like in terms of fit and finish, reliability, parts quality and durability and parts price?
  
  Thanks!
  
  

  since u mentioned older bikes, i assume u wanna get 2nd hand rite?
  
  well, its always better to get hondas for older bikes cause these babies r built to last & parts r widely available, my mech tld me b4 "no need scare honda got no parts one"
  
  kawa might be a bit high on the insurance part (for ntuc tht is) & the parts might not be tht widely avaialble cause the sole agent dnt know how to do work, order one part from them will take ages to arrive
• NoRiceBoys

  2 Feb 06, 23:03

  Hey redname,
  That was exactly the kind of "insider" info needed. Things that I would not have thought of, like parts taking a long time. Yes I'm going to buy 2nd hand, possibly a 3-5 yr old bike. I've also had the same experience as you. The worse dealer experience I've had was with Suzuki, and the 2 suzuki bikes I've owned, the parts were not very sturdy and the bikes were not very reliable. Don't think I'll be even considering a Suzuki bike.
  
  I've owned 2 hondas and both of them were super reliable and built like tanks. They never let me down. The dealership is also well organised, and its easy to get Honda stuff off the net.
  
  Thanks once again for the info on the kawa dealer, that's really important in my decision making.
• redname

  3 Feb 06, 08:48

  Originally posted by NoRiceBoys:

  Hey redname,
  That was exactly the kind of "insider" info needed. Things that I would not have thought of, like parts taking a long time. Yes I'm going to buy 2nd hand, possibly a 3-5 yr old bike. I've also had the same experience as you. The worse dealer experience I've had was with Suzuki, and the 2 suzuki bikes I've owned, the parts were not very sturdy and the bikes were not very reliable. Don't think I'll be even considering a Suzuki bike.
  
  I've owned 2 hondas and both of them were super reliable and built like tanks. They never let me down. The dealership is also well organised, and its easy to get Honda stuff off the net.
  
  Thanks once again for the info on the kawa dealer, that's really important in my decision making.

  another thing to add bout BB is tht u have to make sure the one u bought is carb or EFI as the price varies a lot. i assume tht u shld be looking at the EFI models since its a 3-5 yrs old bike u r looking at
• Bryan^

  3 Feb 06, 10:10

  Originally posted by NoRiceBoys:

  Thanks Bryan, I checked out the ZX12 and you're right on the power! 175HP is impressive even for a car! Busa looks very ugly to me so I won't be considering it (no offense to Busa riders).
  
  One reason I"m looking at the Blackbird and ZZR is because I want an older bike as I don't want to spend too much on them.
  
  I've owned mostly Hondas, and never owned a Kawa before. How're they like in terms of fit and finish, reliability, parts quality and durability and parts price?
  
  Thanks!
  
  

  A class 2 bike seldom have problem.. Parts wise for a class 2 Bike u still have to order in...Kawa is famous for raw power...Honda is boring esp if u wanna mod it into higher horse pwr...U can spend on the same mod on the kawa and honda, but the kawa will have a higher horse pwr gain...
  I suggest u go to loois motor..Have a look...They r reputable and many groups like storm riders and easy riders goes there...Their mechanic meng tong is very good...
  But if price is a factor, BB might be enuf for u...Compare the price and riding posture is the most impt...Power u can increase it urself after u buy...