Do help-mechanical problem here.
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Hi ! i have a problem here, do hope you can give some advice.
I today change up gear too fast ... until the engage din't fully engage , suddenly the bike like lost power= as if in neutral gear. I stopped at the road side and examine . The bike chain seems in place.
I shift back to first gear ,then try to release clutch , the gear had no grip at all.
The engine everything is fine, when i throttle everything seem normal just that the gear cannot be engaged.
I have this problem before. When i shift up gear too fast , the gear at first seems like did not catch , then after split second , it then engage and then pick up speed. This time , it totally cannot engage.
Any ideas?
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Put neutral off bike then restart again. Dunno will work anot...no harm trying.
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Cannot . Put neutral already then off . Restart bike , every purrs like normal.Originally posted by Hanamichi:Put neutral off bike then restart again. Dunno will work anot...no harm trying.
But put first gear , release clutch , bike cannot move at all.
When i shift up to 2nd , 3rd and 4th gear. The bike chain shakes , if i clutch in , they stop shaking. But does not engage and cannot move
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That means now the bike cannot move at all??
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Yes , cannot engage even first gear. HAve to push back all the way to a carparkOriginally posted by Hanamichi:That means now the bike cannot move at all?? -
kaoz...think gear got problem or wat
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I have this problem before. When i shift up gear too fast , the gear at first seems like did not catch , then after split second , it then engage and then pick up speed. This time , it totally cannot engage.
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i got the prob too when i shift gear n rev too fast. may be clutch plate prob for me!
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can i ask u where u got ur bike? which shop?[/B][/QUOTE]
I got it from another owner. It is a TZR
Shitz , like that must ask motortiam to tow -
I got it from another owner. It is a TZROriginally posted by hello_fromjoel:can i ask u where u got ur bike? which shop?
Shitz , like that must ask motortiam to tow
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Dun tow first. go ask around first. if not u at nite go irc ask lor, mostly at nite all there. -
hi i just checked out the bike again. I think the fuel system all the way down to the piston is okay , cos the engine can run.Originally posted by Hanamichi:Dun tow first. go ask around first. if not u at nite go irc ask lor, mostly at nite all there.
The chain system also okay wat, cos when i lift the bike and roll the back wheel , the chain moves quite sui sui.
Don't think clutch snapped cos the wire still has tension when i clutch in and out
So think the problem is somewhere between the piston and crank where it connects to the bike chain. does it break or dislodge?
Is it the sprocket that is spoilt? THe small sprocket in the engine?
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maybe the teeth of the gear break already? dunno juz a guess
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Originally posted by hello_fromjoel:
it time for you to change the clutch pad ...wear out liao ...try kicking the gears harder and not faster
hi i just checked out the bike again. I think the fuel system all the way down to the piston is okay , cos the engine can run.
The chain system also okay wat, cos when i lift the bike and roll the back wheel , the chain moves quite sui sui. it might be the chain too loose as turning of the wheel by hand and engine is totally different ... engine have more power check the tension of the chain again
Don't think clutch snapped cos the wire still has tension when i clutch in and out
So think the problem is somewhere between the piston and crank where it connects to the bike chain. does it break or dislodge?
Is it the sprocket that is spoilt? THe small sprocket in the engine?
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if u engage gear and got kerannggg sounds means clutch bind( clutch stick to flywheel)
if no then mayb the gear lever selector broke or unalligned. might also b gear case problems...very chialat one
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wha sounds bad.Originally posted by sakaratulz:if u engage gear and got kerannggg sounds means clutch bind( clutch stick to flywheel)
if no then mayb the gear lever selector broke or unalligned. might also b gear case problems...very chialat one
Sounds like need to tow to motortiam liao..sigz
Better try and do it early tomoro morning ,otherwise Hari Raya all close
clutch pad - i don't think i can fix myself
engage gear no kerraanng sound leh... I engage gear , only the bike chain shake , other than that like never engage gear ( neutral) like that
Really hope that it is not a gear case prob , though i have a feeling it is
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dear nick ,
do you think i should take my bike apart and see wat i can do before i send for motortiam -
Errrr Dom/ Josean and IVAN,
any idea what is wrong?
Btw , Dom , how come i go to Live chat , the thing is like changed , go in all empty -
hmmm complicated...okok its either yr gear teeth in the engine or yr clutch system fuck up bad...if u posted abt this prob...maybe still can save...i think yr engine oil needed to change coz the gear 'slipped' wad i can say is....b prepared to fork out money...wad u can do is....go scrap yard and find for parts...cheap and can still use... but u must noe wad to buyOriginally posted by hello_fromjoel:Errrr Dom/ Josean and IVAN,
any idea what is wrong?
Btw , Dom , how come i go to Live chat , the thing is like changed , go in all empty -
Yeah you rite, the gear teeth buah till almost bare now. Not gear slippage or clutch bindOriginally posted by ^TzM 53^:hmmm complicated...okok its either yr gear teeth in the engine or yr clutch system fuck up bad...if u posted abt this prob...maybe still can save...i think yr engine oil needed to change coz the gear 'slipped' wad i can say is....b prepared to fork out money...wad u can do is....go scrap yard and find for parts...cheap and can still use... but u must noe wad to buy
Thanks for all you advice.
Initially i thought it was a sprocket problem, maybe the inner part was eroded ,
now when i open up , found that it is the shaft or rather the tip of the engine shaft(called the sharp) that has been completely grind up.
The mechanic asked me if i want to overhaul engine, take apart , change shaft and then reassemble. I said siau , i got no money to pay $200 plus . so asked him to weld the sprocket to the shaft.
Maybe few months later , i will go to JB to overhaul the engine and fix my fork oil leak.
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congratulations how long has it ben since u last changed ur black oil?? if its been quite xome time i suggest u betta bring it bak to ur mech to check... skali ur gears stuck together den if like dat its a big project liaozOriginally posted by hello_fromjoel:Hi ! i have a problem here, do hope you can give some advice.
I today change up gear too fast ... until the engage din't fully engage , suddenly the bike like lost power= as if in neutral gear. I stopped at the road side and examine . The bike chain seems in place.
I shift back to first gear ,then try to release clutch , the gear had no grip at all.
The engine everything is fine, when i throttle everything seem normal just that the gear cannot be engaged.
I have this problem before. When i shift up gear too fast , the gear at first seems like did not catch , then after split second , it then engage and then pick up speed. This time , it totally cannot engage.
Any ideas?
[This message has been edited by hello_fromjoel (edited 14 December 2001).]
if not dun worry mayb ur black oil not good eunff to lubricate ur gears..but betta bring to ur mech to check la
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Originally posted by ZecHs:
Thanks for your tip. i am still quite pissed that my sharp is all bare now and had to be welded to my sprocket.
if not dun worry mayb ur black oil not good eunff to lubricate ur gears..but betta bring to ur mech to check la
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I will wait 3 months when my servicing is up and throw to JB to overhaul engine,change sharp , service my fork oil leak , wash carb and valves and maybe change a tyre or two.
Some tips for newbies that you learn along the way:
1.) Spark plug: no 1 cause of prob. Carry a spare one and also learn how to take out and wipe and clean and burn every few weeks.
2.) No 2 cos of engine cannot start or die off suddently: petrol not enuf , fuel cork not open, choke open
3.) carry tools , alan keys, small spanner and screwdriver.
4.) And shucks always check radiator for water. Better still carry a bottle with you.
This one TZR oreadi taught me , but like always , you won't learn until you experience yourself!!! Esp the radiator water, i got so mad when the engine stalled when water cannot be found.
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wad is live chat ?Originally posted by hello_fromjoel:Errrr Dom/ Josean and IVAN,
any idea what is wrong?
Btw , Dom , how come i go to Live chat , the thing is like changed , go in all empty
wad thing change ?
where empty ?
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Errr, I usu go to IRC or galaxynet by clicking the stupid doll on the racetrack page.Originally posted by Aprilia Rider:wad is live chat ?
wad thing change ?
where empty ?
Then it sends me to #race track. now , when i click on the same thing , it brings me to a new chat room without pple inside.
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hahaha yo Joel~ wah u so clever sial, open up the engine urself? hehehe wah u can be mechanic liao, lol... i read the 1st post i oredi knew that ur gearbox got problem liao, so should be the gear teech problem lor, well, if u wield it, not that good lor, can last awhile, but better change it fast lah, hee
Hmm nothing much to add leh, hehe Abt my life... everyday headache dono why, now at home oso headache... wah lan oei.. think i have migrane... -
[QUOTE]Originally posted by TZR:
[B]hahaha yo Joel~ wah u so clever sial, open up the engine urself? hehehe wah u can be mechanic liao, lol... i read the 1st post i oredi knew that ur gearbox got problem liao, so should be the gear teech problem lor, well, if u wield it, not that good lor, can last awhile, but better change it fast lah, hee
No lah , i read a book on motorcycle DIY , so just learn stuff like take out external body, clean air filter, change engine oil , spark plug, battery water, brake pad and wash carb.
Tried to borrow my mechanics TZR 125 service manual but he refused leh.
Migraine? If you see a Shimmering light in your eyes or a shimmeriing aura , might be migraine.
I think it is due to excessive heat and strenuous exercise . Usu some panadol can help it. When you sit for too long and then stand up suddently, keep your neck flexed ( head looking down) to prevent sudden postural change. Can help prevent headaches caused that way
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Hes indeed a doctor.Originally posted by hello_fromjoel:[QUOTE]Originally posted by TZR:
[B]hahaha yo Joel~ wah u so clever sial, open up the engine urself? hehehe wah u can be mechanic liao, lol... i read the 1st post i oredi knew that ur gearbox got problem liao, so should be the gear teech problem lor, well, if u wield it, not that good lor, can last awhile, but better change it fast lah, hee
No lah , i read a book on motorcycle DIY , so just learn stuff like take out seat cover, clean air filter, change engine oil , spark plug, battery water, brake pad and wash carb.
Tried to borrow my mechanics TZR 125 service manual but he refused leh.
Migraine? If you see a Shimmering light in your eyes or a shimmeriing aura , might be migraine.
I think it is due to excessive heat and strenuous exercise . Usu some panadol can help it. When you sit for too long and then stand up suddently, keep your neck flexed ( head looking down) to prevent sudden postural change. Can help prevent headaches caused that way