Honda Varadero 125
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Hi everyone. Yesterday went to this motor shop at serangoon road.They got display bike high high up one. 3 storey bike shop. Just want ask if anyone got any comments on this Varadero 125 i saw at this bike shop yest. Quite big almost similar to Varadero 1000. Meter read 140km/hr as the top speed only but very comfortable.
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i think the shop u refering to is mah motors....
The Varadero series from what i noe is quite road-worthy...my uncle rode his V1000 all the way to golden triangle, thailand there quite a few times liao still not much complaints..
Its also quite unique especially the 125 series and not rarely seen on road...can consider!
just my very humble opinion
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hey man, don't wish to sound like an expert, because i don't ride the bike, but i've been reading up a lot on this bike. kinda interested to get it... here goes:Originally posted by Vahn:Hi everyone. Yesterday went to this motor shop at serangoon road.They got display bike high high up one. 3 storey bike shop. Just want ask if anyone got any comments on this Varadero 125 i saw at this bike shop yest. Quite big almost similar to Varadero 1000. Meter read 140km/hr as the top speed only but very comfortable.
pros:
4-stroke v-twin engine
saves petrol, easy maintenance. think that's quite clear-cut. goes about 350km for a full-tank. 17 litres including 2 litres reserve (see below)
large fuel tank
top up less petrol, more unlikely to run out of fuel, visit petrol kiosks less.
nice unique look
most people mistake this bike for its big brother, and it's huge for a 2B bike. taller riders like me would love the higher view and comfort. add a taller givi windscreen and it's perfect. the higher exhaust pipe (under/beside the seat) is quite unique, comes with a heatshield, so it's quite unlikely that you or your pillion get burnt by it.
it's honda
reliable, trustable, quality.
kekeke...
original rack for topboxes
comes with a built-in rack, with handles for pillion, so you don't have to buy a new rack for it. the plate is compatible with one model (forgot which) givi base plate, so you can fit any box on it. but if you want twin side-panniers a la africa twin style, you gotta wait. no box manufacturer has made such stuff yet.
ease of riding
the added height is a blessing, lets you see far. but the seat height is 800mm, so better make sure you fit the bike first, because the rear monoshock is non-adjustable for height (only preload). one more thing is that from an existing user of the bike, you can go up to 120km/h "comfortably with a pillion without any vibrations", attributable to the v-twin. "no problems riding up slopes with a pillion in first and second gear, haven't tried third"
one more thing is the weight. it's 150kg in dry weight, perhaps this adds to its stability.
cons:
farking ex!!!
$9.5k OTR!! kaoz! can buy TZM liao!
can imagine how much you'll lose when you sell it...
lack of users on the road
linked to point above.. and it's a very new bike.. released here in mid-2001, impossible to find second-hand. and present users would be too smitten with the bike to sell it. lack of users mean parts are rare = expensive.. heh heh.. good luck man.. and it's not thai or m'sian made.. so parts are going to cost... can imagine how hard it is to get new fairings in a bad buang...
i dunno exactly how it'll be if you wanna sell it lar.. they'll be people who think it's a great bike based on its looks and feel, but they'll be those worried about the above factors i've mentioned, but one thing is sure: at $9.5k OTR, sure lose money...
no power
at a whopping 150kg, it's got only 15hp. kaoz man... even a phantom 2 or SP has almost twice the power... so you can see that the pickup is going to be hurt.. quite a bit.. but if you're the easy riding type, don't mind being chie4 by the sportsbikers, then this is okay. after all it "goes up to 120km/h comfortably with a pillion".
on the whole, it's a very new bike, not very well tested.. honda is known for releasing new bikes, and then improving them as they go along...
ultimately, it's up to you lar.. just post if you wanna know more about the bike.. i'm very tempted to get this... either this, or a phantom2, or a TZM! hahaha
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hey... in any case you're still interested in the topic, check out the yamaha TDR-125R... probably the most similar bike you can find, but i think it's not as nice...
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Jus saw one at suntec last nite & surprise coz with P plate attached.Till now then i realise it's XL125......"grandson" of XL1000. It's appearance is cool & it doesn't seems like any class 2B type of bikes to me...Honda is great
jus wonder whether there's more demand on this bike otherwise this bike might be high on maintenance(less common bike, parts more expensive) So experience riders care to share on the pros & cons on this bike...
Michelin-Hi-Sports...The idea is there
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Originally posted by ChRiS TaY:
thats the varadero 1000cc
looks damm bad ass man! -
this is only varadero 125cc only...Originally posted by visual:
thats the varadero 1000cc
looks damm bad ass man! -
im riding the bike (blue one) for about 3 months,Originally posted by Michelin:Jus saw one at suntec last nite & surprise coz with P plate attached.Till now then i realise it's XL125......"grandson" of XL1000. It's appearance is cool & it doesn't seems like any class 2B type of bikes to me...Honda is great jus wonder whether there's more demand on this bike otherwise this bike might be high on maintenance(less common bike, parts more expensive) So experience riders care to share on the pros & cons on this bike...
Michelin-Hi-Sports...The idea is there
personally, its nice to ride..
its high (not too high like a scrambler) u get a good view of the road,
Quiet engine
MAX speed on the bike that ive tried is 120, and its very smooth that sometimes i dont realize that im at 120 till i check the meter...
this bike feels good, looks good, come with good tyres
maintanence .. well its a 4 stroke bike.. so (the usual bike maintanence ah, oil change etc..)
oh yeah since its a V-twin, it requires about 1.5L of engine oil and needs 2 spark plugs..... -
hey chris this is the 1000 cc lah..Originally posted by ChRiS TaY:this is only varadero 125cc only...
u want to see the 125, this is the
125 one
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How much u buy for ur bike??? the cost of the insurance is how much??? that one 1000 meh? i check from net it said 125cc...Originally posted by visual:im riding the bike (blue one) for about 3 months,
personally, its nice to ride..
its high (not too high like a scrambler) u get a good view of the road,
Quiet engine
MAX speed on the bike that ive tried is 120, and its very smooth that sometimes i dont realize that im at 120 till i check the meter...
this bike feels good, looks good, come with good tyres
maintanence .. well its a 4 stroke bike.. so (the usual bike maintanence ah, oil change etc..)
oh yeah since its a V-twin, it requires about 1.5L of engine oil and needs 2 spark plugs..... -
truest me ahh..Originally posted by ChRiS TaY:How much u buy for ur bike??? the cost of the insurance is how much??? that one 1000 meh? i check from net it said 125cc...
i may not know much about other bikes
but for varadero i know very very well..
as u cann see the features, the fering and well the engine, tyres, windguard, lower cowl, exhaust,. is totally different compared to the 125..
i got mine for OTR $9.5K (incl insurance 2nd party)
but recently a friend of a friend got it for $9 (incl of 1st party insurance and box!) oh well.. -
Agree with u..somehow there's differences upon closer look. Almost got the deception concept as if the 125cc was the 1000cc one. Believe the posted 125cc (pic with couple) wasnt taken locally. Does the colour of ur seat looks the same as in the pic? Are there any modifications done upon importation before it's sold in Spore? <<Btw where did you bought & service ur bike?Originally posted by visual:truest me ahh..
i may not know much about other bikes
but for varadero i know very very well..
as u cann see the features, the fering and well the engine, tyres, windguard, lower cowl, exhaust,. is totally different compared to the 125..
i got mine for OTR $9.5K (incl insurance 2nd party)
but recently a friend of a friend got it for $9 (incl of 1st party insurance and box!) oh well..
Perhaps, being patient is the solution to get a better price
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>Believe the posted 125cc (pic with couple) wasnt taken locally.Originally posted by Michelin:Michelin-Hi-Sports...The idea is there
yep that pic, was from a french website, apprantly those people really like varadero125 that they even have a varadero 125 club and their own outings,
>Does the colour of ur seat looks the same as in
>the pic?
his seat is a modified one, saw that they sold that for about 200+ euro.. highly unlikely if can get that in sg....
but then again the original seat is good enough, ive no complains..
but the seat in the pic (looks really nice)
>Are there any modifications done upon importation
>before it's sold in Spore?
if your wondering if the bike is being restrict well..its not, bec this bike was made for the euro-uk (learners market)
so it was made to have only 15 HP (to comply to the UK learners bike spec)
there are some ppl who change the exhaust to get more power..
there is even of one where this perswon (think he;s a german) modified the bike to have 2 exaust
currently varadero125 (combines the exhaust for the V engine and channels it out to one exhaust) but the guy mod so it goes out it its own exhaust... and theres even kits sold in germany to upgrade the engine to 255cc ... but u need to be somewat a mechanic and need to strip the engine, bore holes to the engine to increase the cap.. and etc..,.something we cant do here anyways..
refer to the pic below..
cool huh...
>Btw where did you bought & service ur bike?
got mine at Mah Motors, service the bike at Mah for the 1st 2 then just any bike shop (its like a mornal bike.. no special servicing req.)
>Perhaps, being patient is the solution to get a better price
well Michelin, if your like me, took 1 year (4 tps) to get my 2b, well all i can say the 9.5k i paid..totally worth it..
cos with a bike your not just buying a bike, your buying a new lifestyle.. -
Thanks for sharing so much info ...i must admit that the pic with 2 exhaust looks cool..However, from my point of view .. i still think it's wiser to be patient prior to wat 13stat had mentioned >>>>> (see below ) & i strongly agree with the last part
cons:
farking ex!!!
$9.5k OTR!! kaoz! can buy TZM liao! can imagine how much you'll lose when you sell it...
lack of users on the road
linked to point above.. and it's a very new bike.. released here in mid-2001, impossible to find second-hand. and present users would be too smitten with the bike to sell it. lack of users mean parts are rare = expensive.. heh heh.. good luck man.. and it's not thai or m'sian made.. so parts are going to cost... can imagine how hard it is to get new fairings in a bad buang...
i dunno exactly how it'll be if you wanna sell it lar.. they'll be people who think it's a great bike based on its looks and feel, but they'll be those worried about the above factors i've mentioned, but one thing is sure: at $9.5k OTR, sure lose money...
no power
at a whopping 150kg, it's got only 15hp. kaoz man... even a phantom 2 or SP has almost twice the power... so you can see that the pickup is going to be hurt.. quite a bit.. but if you're the easy riding type, don't mind being chie4 by the sportsbikers, then this is okay. after all it "goes up to 120km/h comfortably with a pillion".
on the whole, it's a very new bike, not very well tested.. honda is known for releasing new bikes, and then improving them as they go along...
Afterall, it's jus up to the person who is riding the bike..i mean most important is wat the rider feel when riding the bike & not others If anyone chose to ride this bike.. they have to prepared for the challenge... & i personally will to stick to my own preferences...
even being chie4 by the sportsbikers.. i still wouldn't give a damn on them as some are still in their schools days 
perhaps these "little rascals" jus wanna to gain some attention
As least u are one of the few (not sure among how many ppl) who gets to feel & experience on the road...believe many are like me waiting for the chance to do so..
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Originally posted by l3stat:
13stat,
hey man, don't wish to sound like an expert, because i don't ride the bike, but i've been reading up a lot on this bike. kinda interested to get it... here goes:
[b]pros:
[color=red]4-stroke v-twin engine
saves petrol, easy maintenance. think that's quite clear-cut[/color]. goes about 350km for a full-tank. 17 litres including 2 litres reserve (see below)
large fuel tank
top up less petrol, more unlikely to run out of fuel, visit petrol kiosks less.
nice unique look
most people mistake this bike for its big brother, and it's huge for a 2B bike. taller riders like me would love the higher view and comfort. add a taller givi windscreen and it's perfect. the higher exhaust pipe (under/beside the seat) is quite unique, comes with a heatshield, so it's quite unlikely that you or your pillion get burnt by it.
it's honda
reliable, trustable, quality. kekeke...
original rack for topboxes
comes with a built-in rack, with handles for pillion, so you don't have to buy a new rack for it. the plate is compatible with one model (forgot which) givi base plate, so you can fit any box on it. but if you want twin side-panniers a la africa twin style, you gotta wait. no box manufacturer has made such stuff yet.
ease of riding
the added height is a blessing, lets you see far. but the seat height is 800mm, so better make sure you fit the bike first, because the rear monoshock is non-adjustable for height (only preload). one more thing is that from an existing user of the bike, you can go up to 120km/h "comfortably with a pillion without any vibrations", attributable to the v-twin. "no problems riding up slopes with a pillion in first and second gear, haven't tried third"
one more thing is the weight. it's 150kg in dry weight, perhaps this adds to its stability.
cons:
farking ex!!!
$9.5k OTR!! kaoz! can buy TZM liao! can imagine how much you'll lose when you sell it...
lack of users on the road
linked to point above.. and it's a very new bike.. released here in mid-2001, impossible to find second-hand. and present users would be too smitten with the bike to sell it. lack of users mean parts are rare = expensive.. heh heh.. good luck man.. and it's not thai or m'sian made.. so parts are going to cost... can imagine how hard it is to get new fairings in a bad buang...
i dunno exactly how it'll be if you wanna sell it lar.. they'll be people who think it's a great bike based on its looks and feel, but they'll be those worried about the above factors i've mentioned, but one thing is sure: at $9.5k OTR, sure lose money...
no power
at a whopping 150kg, it's got only 15hp. kaoz man... even a phantom 2 or SP has almost twice the power... so you can see that the pickup is going to be hurt.. quite a bit.. but if you're the easy riding type, don't mind being chie4 by the sportsbikers, then this is okay. after all it "goes up to 120km/h comfortably with a pillion".
on the whole, it's a very new bike, not very well tested.. honda is known for releasing new bikes, and then improving them as they go along...
ultimately, it's up to you lar.. just post if you wanna know more about the bike.. i'm very tempted to get this... either this, or a phantom2, or a TZM! hahaha
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rock hard... ride free...[/b]
No offences pls...jus have a doubt on ur feedback
"4-stroke v-twin engine
saves petrol, easy maintenance. think that's quite clear-cut"
Jus came across to read ur posting on the topic Varadero XL 125V backdated 23 Jan 2002:
"v-twins are known to guzzle more petrol, so fuel efficiency wise it may not be so cheap to ride."[/color]
pls clear my doubt as which should be the right info??
Thanks...
Michelin-Hi-Sports...The idea is there